Group 4 homologation specials

kev1.3s

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lancia/delta/lancia-delta-s4-stradale-1985/2714530
Just to get away from the frankly ridiculous reg debates that almost every thread here descends into recently.
Not to often one of these 80's monsters comes on the market, from an era when the leash was truly off the engineer for better or worse, this one and the 205 t16 were my faves.

bbsrs

kev1.3s wrote: »

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/lancia/delta/lancia-delta-s4-stradale-1985/2714530
Just to get away from the frankly ridiculous reg debates that almost every thread here descends into recently.
Not to often one of these 80's monsters comes on the market, from an era when the leash was truly off the engineer for better or worse, this one and the 205 t16 were my faves.

Nice , how many road going t16s were sold?

conor2469

AFAIK for group B they had to create a minimum of 200 road going versions. However I think in some cases many of the road going versions that were built were then stripped again by the manufacturer and used for Motorsport purposes, a very interesting era of Motorsport, it has gotten quite sterile and samey with regard to the machinery they are running these days IMO.

kev1.3s

bbsrs wrote: »

Nice , how many road going t16s were sold?

201 made and I assume they were all sold bar the 1 which Peugeot kept.
Shame they were so rare but I suppose it adds to the aura.

68deville

Joe macari has a soft spot for deltas in general! What an amazing motor that
Stradale,bit off topic but I think in the mid 80s somebody here in Ireland rallied a lancia 037 stradale for a while?

ianobrien

68deville wrote: »

in the mid 80s somebody here in Ireland rallied a lancia 037 stradale for a while?

Penti Airikkala did the '84 or '85 Circuit of Ireland in one with Irish Mirror sponsorship (and either stuffed it into a ditch or it broke as it didn't finish). That was the only 037 that rallied here I think.

ianobrien

OP, I assume you mean Group B as the S4 is a Group B machine, and Group 4 finished up as a class in 1981.

68deville

I think the 037 lancia was ran in team PR Reilly Colors? Could be wrong do

kev1.3s

ianobrien wrote: »

OP, I assume you mean Group B as the S4 is a Group B machine, and Group 4 finished up as a class in 1981.

Yep group b alright don't know where I got 4 from.

kev1.3s

68deville wrote: »

I think the 037 lancia was ran in team PR Reilly Colors? Could be wrong do

There is a guy in borris who has a clatter of rally cars 205 t16, stratos and 037 rally amongst them.

ianobrien

68deville wrote: »

I think the 037 lancia was ran in team PR Reilly Colors? Could be wrong do

I've just checked the Rally Retro website. It was the '83 COI and it was the Evening Herald I was thinking of.

68deville

kev1.3s wrote: »

There is a guy in borris who has a clatter of rally cars 205 t16, stratos and 037 rally amongst them.

Think there is a couple of R5 Maxi Turbos in Waterford as well,some very
Interesting cars out there no doubt.

f4fay

68deville wrote: »

I think the 037 lancia was ran in team PR Reilly Colors? Could be wrong do

My Brother drove this PR Reilly backed 037 in the cork 20 in 1985

Tiger72

Ah ...Brendan Fagan ... couldnt remember but when i saw the f4fay user name it came to me . Go on tell us the value of that car at the the time - back in the day ?

ianobrien

f4fay wrote: »

My Brother drove this PR Reilly backed 037 in the cork 20 in 1985

You learn something new every day.....

wotswattage

MG built all 200 Metro 6R4's as rally cars, some as International spec works cars and the rest as Clubman spec rally cars.

Manufacturers had awful trouble selling the full compliment of 200 in some cases. Some went for massive discounts!!

What a lineup!

68deville

And a few ended up in irish hands and were campaigned with success
Though probably in clubman spec.great noise a 6R4!

Diabhalta

"The Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 scooped the World Rally Championship in 1985 and 1986, and variants based on it would go on to dominate Pikes Peak. In rallying trim, its tiny 1.8-litre engine would kick out 500bhp.
This, however, is a road car - and one that hasn't seen much in the way of roads; it's done just 1700km from new. Up for sale with RM Auctions at its London sale in September, it's a little bit more pricey than that toy car – £60k-£95k is the estimate."

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1068244

kev1.3s

Not too bad either for such a rare car.

bbsrs

T16 for 95k would be very reasonable going by the values other homologation specials are making.

Edit: had a look on the net for that car auction and the T16 sold for £156,800.