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Plastic Bag Tax

  • 07-09-2014 8:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭


    Was the plastic bag tax a good move or bad move? Anyone remember what minister or party brought it in?

    According to the Environment department it's introduction "...had an immediate effect on consumer behaviour with a decrease in plastic bag usage from an estimated 328 bags per capita to 21 bags per capita overnight."

    I wasn't doing much household shopping at that point, but I certainly know I use less bags now than I did prior to this. To me it seems like an effective law. I figure 12 years on is a good time to evaluate it. Would people go back to using hundreds of plastic bags a year if the tax was removed?

    Did the Plastic Bag Tax introduced in 2002 work out well? 120 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    92% 111 votes
    No opinion
    7% 9 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    No not really. Handier to pay a euro or so and have a load of much bigger stronger bags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Dont see many disgarded bags flying around any more. Thats a good thing.

    Has certainly changed the habits of both shoppers and retailers. The UK only recently brought in bag charges, and shop owners would even be offering bags if you had only brought a bag of sweets and the newpaper, then give an odd look if you declined, unfortunately some of their charges also include paper bags.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it was a good thing. I always carry around bags so I don't need plastic ones.

    I was shocked when I went to London last June and they still throw them at you over there. I bought a pack of paracetamol in Tesco and they gave me a plastic bag for it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Yes. Imitated often in other countries since.

    /thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    To counter this draconian tax. I have taken it upon myself to counter it.

    Plastic bags in the blue bin

    Old electronics in the green bin

    Glass bottles in the green bin

    Dog poo in the brown bin

    And so on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    mad muffin wrote: »
    To counter this draconian tax. I have taken it upon myself to counter it.

    Plastic bags in the blue bin

    Old electronics in the green bin

    Glass bottles in the green bin

    Dog poo in the brown bin

    And so on.

    You're a rebel:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Not sure iirc,but at the time I thought that the Money earned would go into an environmental fund-I wonder what Projects have been funded by said fund if it was indeed how I remembered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    You're a rebel:cool:

    I know right?!

    Just the other day I took the dog for a walk and didn't even pick up his poop.

    Just hoping someone will step in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    cloud493 wrote: »
    No not really. Handier to pay a euro or so and have a load of much bigger stronger bags.

    That is part of the aim of it is though no?

    I think it was a great thing in the fact that you don't see as many of them littering the streets anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I know right?!

    Just the other day I took the dog for a walk and didn't even pick up his poop.

    Just hoping someone will step in it.

    Mad Muffin you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Maybe they could come up with a way of taxing away the bags of rubbish strewn along every back road in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Mad Muffin you!

    WOO DOGGIE!!

    Ima bad ass

    *flexes*flexes*



    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭solomafioso




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    Sure plastic bags are just very thin pieces of plastic shaped to hold items.

    Hope this answers your question OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,693 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    Karsini wrote: »
    I think it was a good thing. I always carry around bags so I don't need plastic ones.

    I was shocked when I went to London last June and they still throw them at you over there. I bought a pack of paracetamol in Tesco and they gave me a plastic bag for it!

    Yeah it was pretty disgusting to be honest seeing plastic bags all over the ground and stuff inside in the tescos I went to over there. I was so used to our plastic bag tax that I didn't even take advantage of the free plastic bags. Felt weird


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    I think if the charge was say 7cent it would have had just a much of a positive effect in regards personal responsibility towards these kinds of environmental issues but conversely I continually feel totally pi**ed off to pay 22 cent for a bag on the occasion I simply need it cause I didn't' come from home when i was passing the supermarket. A rip off law or whatever its called introduced during the Celtic tiger frenzy and should be looked at again re the charges !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    It is illegal for a shop to hand you a plastic without charing you bag isn't it? I've been handed plastic bags many a times without being charged for them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    stevek93 wrote: »
    It is illegal for a shop to hand you a plastic without charing you bag isn't it? I've been handed plastic bags many a times without being charged for them.

    Did you inform the Gardaí?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭salamanca22


    Can only speak for myself but I have been using the same bags for about a year now and I have one of those fabric bags that I rarely go out of the house with incase I go into a shop. Folds into a neat square.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    stevek93 wrote: »
    It is illegal for a shop to hand you a plastic without charing you bag isn't it? I've been handed plastic bags many a times without being charged for them.

    I don't think more so they have to pay the tax on them so it's a cost that they should pass on.

    If they want to take the hit on the tax that's their lookout.


    Dunnes on George's St. in Dublin don't do the small plastic bags at all, so if you pop in for groceries on the way home from town and don't have bags with you you have to shell out for one of the big ones, which is irritating and calculating on their behalf I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    stevek93 wrote: »
    It is illegal for a shop to hand you a plastic without charing you bag isn't it? I've been handed plastic bags many a times without being charged for them.
    Hermy wrote: »
    Did you inform the Gardaí?

    No, Ring the Lav line..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Years ago almost every tree you walked past had a plastic bag hanging out of it.

    The tax was a good idea to begin with the cost of bags is ridiculous now. A flimsy little bag costs about half as much as a Tesco Bag For Life does, and even more than a big thick bag from Aldi.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Proof that imposing a tax alters human behaviour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    I don't think more so they have to pay the tax on them so it's a cost that they should pass on.

    If they want to take the hit on the tax that's their lookout.


    Dunnes on George's St. in Dublin don't do the small plastic bags at all, so if you pop in for groceries on the way home from town and don't have bags with you you have to shell out for one of the big ones, which is irritating and calculating on their behalf I think.

    No Dunne's that I know of do the small plastic bags silly as you always end up forgetting and have to buy the large ones.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    I get my bags on the black market, thus circumventing this bloodsucking tax.
    Almost certainly my money helps fund organised crime in Russia or Finglas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭stevek93


    I get my bags on the black market, thus circumventing this bloodsucking tax.
    Almost certainly my money helps fund organised crime in Russia or Finglas.

    lol at the username


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Plastic bags virtually unknown when I was a student working in Germany in 1990. So we're not the first. Changes peoples attitudes here though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    Last minister for the Environment had the opportunity to do something about the empty coke, lucozade, etc plastic bottle scourge. He did nothing.

    Every square inch of this country is littered with these cursed bottles. Really wish the deposit refund scheme was introduced, which operates extremely efficiently in parts of America and continental Europe.

    Our litter problem would be almost solved overnight if this would only come about.


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