Woman beheaded in London

fr336

Police saying it is not being treated as terrorism related.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29068391

The Peanut

I fear for mankind. The ability to carry out this kind of barbarism is shocking. Nothing justifies it.

DLMA23

Nutcase with a grievance & a machete apparently

The Backwards Man

As barbaric as the actual incident is, the comments on social media and news sites make me despair for humanity.

ScumLord

The Peanut wrote: »

I fear for mankind. The ability to carry out this kind of barbarism is shocking. Nothing justifies it.

Why? Today a rare beheading is headline news, 1700 years ago in south America it was weekly mass.

Timberrrrrrrr

The Peanut wrote: »

I fear for mankind. The ability to carry out this kind of barbarism is shocking. Nothing justifies it.

As ****ty as it is it's not even close to barbaric when you think of the past. One nut job doing something like this is just that......one nut job. Nutters have been chopping people up.for centuries.

The Peanut

ScumLord wrote: »

Why? Today a rare beheading is headline news, 1700 years ago in south America it was weekly mass.

Society is benchmarked by standards of the time. By today's standards, it is barbaric.

The Backwards Man

Nightingale Road is a typical suburban street in the London Borough of Edmonton. The average house value on there is £310,000, while it is £275,000 in the local N9 postcode area

Good old Daily Mail, what a fcuking rag.

Sonderkommando

ScumLord wrote: »

Why? Today a rare beheading is headline news, 1700 years ago in south America it was weekly mass.

Because that was 1700 years ago in South America. We have evolved a bit since then don't you know!

Beano

ScumLord wrote: »

Why? Today a rare beheading is headline news, 1700 years ago in south America it was weekly mass.

a bit closer to 500 actually.

BobbyPropane

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Nightingale Road is a typical suburban street in the London Borough of Edmonton. The average house value on there is £310,000, while it is £275,000 in the local N9 postcode area

Good old Daily Mail, what a fcuking rag.

Why have you gone on Dailymail?

The Backwards Man

BobbyPropane wrote: »

Why have you gone on Dailymail?

I'm enlightening myself on the comments section.

BobbyPropane

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'm enlightening myself on the comments section.

I do the same thing but with this site

TwoShedsJackson

Sonderkommando wrote: »

Because that was 1700 years ago in South America. We have evolved a bit since then don't you know!

Why are people still being beheaded in the name of religion then?

ScumLord

The Peanut wrote: »

Society is benchmarked by standards of the time. By today's standards, it is barbaric.

Exactly my point though, doesn't it highlight the fact we have a much more civilised society than in the past when these things disgust us so much? even compared to 50 years ago societies much nicer.

Beano wrote: »

a bit closer to 500 actually.

yup, I muddled up my years, although I was still off by a hundred years or so.

Intensive Care Bear

I bet later news reports will confirm that she wasn't beheaded.

lukesmom

What would make someone do that in this day and age ??? All I can think of is he must have lost the head.....

The Peanut

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Why are people still being beheaded in the name of religion then?

No-one is saying it doesn't happen. But by the standards of the 21st century, in most parts if the world,it is barbaric and unjustified.

ceadaoin.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Nightingale Road is a typical suburban street in the London Borough of Edmonton. The average house value on there is £310,000, while it is £275,000 in the local N9 postcode area

Good old Daily Mail, what a fcuking rag.

No matter what the story is, the daily mail usually find a way to mention how much the house of the subject is worth.

The Backwards Man

ceadaoin. wrote: »

No matter what the story is, the daily mail usually find a way to mention how much the house of the the subject is worth.

Yeah, and their salary.

Paco Rodriguez

1210m5g wrote: »

I bet later news reports will confirm that she wasn't beheaded.

I think the fact that the police mentioned the word terrorism, in denial of it, leads to the conclusion.

The Peanut

ScumLord wrote: »

Exactly my point though, doesn't it highlight the fact we have a much more civilised society than in the past when these things disgust us so much? even compared to 50 years ago societies much nicer.

yup, I muddled up my years, although I was still off by a hundred years or so.

Yes, violence towards people is tolerated less in most parts of the world. But as society advances, acts of violence that fall outside of accepted parameters surely then seem more barbaric. I realise it's all about perception; General X who orders the killing of a tribe/village somewhere is obviously an evil animal, but there is something barbaric about killing someone in person.

Btw, I think you're out by a lot more than 100 years.

Last_Minute

Is this 2014 or 1804 we are living in?

comongethappy

Last_Minute wrote: »

Is this 2014 or 1804 we are living in?

Were be headings common in 1804?

DLMA23

In France the guillotine was the only legal method of execution from 1789-1981

The last person to be beheaded by the guillotine was Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Djandoubi's execution was the last legal beheading in a democratic country

Last_Minute

comongethappy wrote: »

Were be headings common in 1804?

Very much so. It was the trendy way to die in 1804.

Sleepy

DLMA23 wrote: »

In France the guillotine was the only legal method of execution from 1789-1981

The last person to be beheaded by the guillotine was Hamida Djandoubi, in 1977

Djandoubi's execution was the last legal beheading in a democratic country

Many still argue that the guillotine is one of the most humane means of execution.

cletus van damme

Sleepy wrote: »

Many still argue that the guillotine is one of the most humane means of execution.

who argues that??

My limited reading on the guillotine was that it was a horrible way to go and sometimes needed a few chops in order to fully cut off the head.

Hootanany

Poor Lady RIP

Beano

cletus van damme wrote: »

who argues that??

My limited reading on the guillotine was that it was a horrible way to go and sometimes needed a few chops in order to fully cut off the head.

You're thinking of a big axe or a sword. The guillotine was first time, every time. Guaranteed amount of force and it never missed.

ScumLord

cletus van damme wrote: »

who argues that??

My limited reading on the guillotine was that it was a horrible way to go and sometimes needed a few chops in order to fully cut off the head.

A guillotine wouldn't need a few chops, if you were being beheaded by an axe it took skill to make sure one blow did the trick but with the guillotine you were held in position and a large heavy blade made short work of cutting the head off in one go.

A Taser was used during the arrest of the man and a firearms officer is believed to have suffered a broken wrist.


Fair play to the police force over there, they are able to capture these guys and make them stand trial.

Over in the US "Man Shot During Questioning By the FBI"

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

Beano wrote: »

You're thinking of a big axe or a sword. The guillotine was first time, every time. Guaranteed amount of force and it never missed.

Strange seeing the chap doing the other one with what looked like a hunting knife. I wonder did he start a soup spoon and then have a brainwave - 'do you know what would make this easier..'

Last_Minute

Apparently Gillette have invented a new '5 blade' guillotine that only takes one slice to work. The blades are pretty expensive though.

Galwayguy35

Beano wrote: »

You're thinking of a big axe or a sword. The guillotine was first time, every time. Guaranteed amount of force and it never missed.

Not too sure about that, the french King Louis whatever he was took a few swipes of it because he had a thick neck.

The Samurai sword would lob it off in one go all right, can't beat the Japanese for quality.

ScumLord

Last_Minute wrote: »

Apparently Gillette have invented a new '5 blade' guillotine that only takes one slice to work. The blades are pretty expensive though.

And you can only chop off five heads before they're no good anymore.

castletownman

As sad and all this indiscriminate and horrible murder is, I won't beheading to the Daily Mail website for reports on it.

truffle5

Don't say the M word anybody! We can't rock the multicultural boat. We're not allowed to notice that one particular community has a penchant for decapitating individuals.

ScumLord

truffle5 wrote: »

Don't say the M word anybody! We can't rock the multicultural boat. We're not allowed to notice that one particular community has a penchant for decapitating individuals.

Meth addicts?

Its Only Ray Parlour

Deleted User wrote: »

Over in the US "Man Shot During Questioning By the FBI"

Their ethos is to: shoot first, ask questions later.

Macavity.

If it's not an act of terrorism then there isn't really much to discuss. Horrible incidence obviously.

Skylinehead

truffle5 wrote: »

Don't say the M word anybody! We can't rock the multicultural boat. We're not allowed to notice that one particular community has a penchant for decapitating individuals.

Goddamn Martians, coming over to our planet and taking our jobs.

Dey tukk urr jurbs!

ceadaoin.

truffle5 wrote: »

Don't say the M word anybody! We can't rock the multicultural boat. We're not allowed to notice that one particular community has a penchant for decapitating individuals.

Do they also have a penchant for killing cats? That's what this guy was seen doing beforehand apparently.

The Backwards Man

truffle5 wrote: »

Don't say the M word anybody! We can't rock the multicultural boat. We're not allowed to notice that one particular community has a penchant for decapitating individuals.

Balls.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603549/Judith-Nibbs-beheaded-Shoreditch-flat-row-estranged-husband.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gemma-mccluskie-former-eastenders-actress-1533755

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270268/Naked-man-Daniel-Coriat-beheaded-mother-thought-witch-Hannibal-Lecter-noises-arrested-police.html

These people were all decapitated in London in the last couple of years.

Take your phobias somewhere else.

truffle5

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Balls.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2603549/Judith-Nibbs-beheaded-Shoreditch-flat-row-estranged-husband.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gemma-mccluskie-former-eastenders-actress-1533755

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270268/Naked-man-Daniel-Coriat-beheaded-mother-thought-witch-Hannibal-Lecter-noises-arrested-police.html

These people were all decapitated in London in the last couple of years.

Take your phobias somewhere else.

*frantically searches google to cheery-pick exceptions to the norm*

If you don't acknowledge that a problem exists, how can we even begin to fix it.

Iwasfrozen

comongethappy wrote: »

Were be headings common in 1804?

Ask the French.

ceadaoin.

truffle5 wrote: »

*frantically searches google to cheery-pick exceptions to the norm*

If you don't acknowledge that a problem exists, how can we even begin to fix it.

Exceptions to the norm? It would appear that Muslims beheading people in the UK is the exception given that there has only been one case in recent times and there have been at least 3 that are unrelated to terrorism. Anyone would think that you wanted it to be a terrorist act, just to prove your prejudiced notions correct.

Gone West

4 pages in and we haven't seen Islam mentioned yet.
edit: D'oh beaten to it by 1 post.

truffle5

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Exceptions to the norm? It would appear that Muslims beheading people in the UK is the exception given that there has only been one case in recent times and there have been at least 3 that are unrelated to terrorism. Anyone would think that you wanted it to be a terrorist act, just to prove your prejudiced notions correct.

???

You're the first person to mention Muslims in this thread

ceadaoin.

truffle5 wrote: »

???

You're the first person to mention Muslims in this thread

I guess you really did mean Martians then when you mentioned the "m word" and multiculturalism in the same post. Apologies

WilyCoyote

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Ask the French.

Non Oui!