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Comely maidens dancing at the crossroads . . . What nonsense is this

  • 04-09-2014 1:28pm
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    Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭


    I've seen this saying quoted in a few historical pieces lately, one of the presenters on Newstalk seems to use it every so often.

    What or who are "comely maidens" & why would they be dancing on a busy road junction, surely that unsafe ?.

    Please feel free to fill me in on this curious saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ever heard of google?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,434 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i stumbled up such a dance while lost in the midlands (offaly) usual irish country types and lord save us some of them were African looking, yet dressed like "maidens" from the last century


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,417 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    de Velera said this was his vision of Ireland.


    The public didn't agree with his vision and comely maidens were dumped and replaced with rural electrification in Fianna Fáil's manifesto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Hotfail.com


    Something to do with de Valera and his wish to keep Ireland's traditional values in place, although it's actual a misquotation.

    Enjoy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Why are some people so eager to latch on to historical inaccuracies, solely to vent their splenetic anti-cultural vitriol?

    And the poor man is cock of all his jests.....

    Indeed, Dev's speech contained some good stuff: "With the tidings that make such an Ireland possible, St. Patrick came to our ancestors fifteen hundred years ago promising happiness here no less than happiness hereafter. It was the pursuit of such an Ireland that later made our country worthy to be called the island of saints and scholars. It was the idea of such an Ireland - happy, vigorous, spiritual - that fired the imagination of our poets; that made successive generations of patriotic men give their lives to win religious and political liberty; and that will urge men in our own and future generations to die, if need be, so that these liberties may be preserved."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,419 ✭✭✭Cool Mo D


    It comes from a much mocked radio speech by DeValera during the second world war where he set out his vision of Ireland as rural, conservative, isolationist and religious.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ireland_That_We_Dreamed_Of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Ever heard of google?

    I searched Google maps and have yet to see any comely maidens at any of the cross-roads.

    Have you any GPS co-ordinates?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Cool Mo D wrote: »
    It comes from a much mocked radio speech by DeValera during the second world war where he set out his vision of Ireland as rural, conservative, isolationist and religious.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ireland_That_We_Dreamed_Of

    Whats a Second World War ? We just had an Emergency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Comely maidens dancing at the crossroads . . . What nonsense is this

    OP has just arrived in 1937.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    That was code for Luftwaffe bombing raids. Dev was actually an alter-ego of Lord Haw-Haw, or possibly vice-versa.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    What or who are "comely maidens"


    Maidens are another name for women.
    And to describe soemthing as 'comely' means you would like to cum all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Mad how he's always quoted as saying that even though if you read the speech itself, there isnt a single mention of "comely maidens", dancing, or crossroads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    De Velera's vision of Ireland, full of happy, simple folk happy with living off the land, going to mass every Sunday and not wanting expensive material possessions.

    Except for him, obviously, he was busy lining his pockets with the income from The Irish Press.

    Good old Fianna Fail. Shafting people senseless since 1933.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,693 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    It refers to 1996 when Wexford won the All Ireland and the Wild Swans released the seminal classic "Dancing at the Crossroads" which reached the top of the charts.

    The whole of Wexford literally danced at the crossroads that September


  • Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    Maidens are another name for women.
    And to describe soemthing as 'comely' means you would like to cum all over it.

    So like that Kate Upton photo then, did Dev know about The Fappening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    De Valera was a disgrace. He gave the Roman Church the power to ruin our new state for decades.
    The comely maidens ended up in mother and baby homes.


  • Site Banned Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Shiraz 4.99


    Mad how he's always quoted as saying that even though if you read the speech itself, there isnt a single mention of "comely maidens", dancing, or crossroads.

    No, that struck me aswell, it's as if someone was asked to do a 140 character synopsis of the speech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭Davarus Walrus


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    De Valera was a disgrace. He gave the Roman Church the power to ruin our new state for decades.
    The comely maidens ended up in mother and baby homes.

    That's a rather easy perspective to take. While Dev was certainly isolationist and conservative; he certainly wasn't the only one who had an idealised version of Ireland. An Ireland that turned out to be one whereby we put people behind walls to forget about them. Nor was it all the Church. The Church and FF had such sway as they appealed to the sensibilities of the Irish people. A deeply conservative bunch of people. There wasn't this hidden burst of post-war liberalism waiting to burst forth from the Irish. A spectacularly weak CnG and FG opposition did little to provide a different perspective.

    The Transformation Of Ireland by Diarmuid Ferriter gives a great account of this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    ... The Church and FF had such sway as they appealed to the sensibilities of the Irish people. A deeply conservative bunch of people. There wasn't this hidden burst of post-war liberalism waiting to burst forth from the Irish...

    Aye. No leader can really 'make' people do stuff.

    The bould former chancellor across the way wouldn't have been up to much if there hadn't been substantial anti-Semitic notions in position before he arrived on the scene.

    A herd of sheep can be jostled onwards but it is not so easy to steer them where they plainly don't want to go.


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