Should I push for a raise

tomgaa

I started with this engineering company in April 2013. I originally started on a probation period and they told me that if after 6 months they were happy with me I would be made full time and my salary bumped up...and at December/January 2014 I got a raise, in June I got promoted from the office doing reports and what not becoming an on site engineer where there are only 3 of us on this 20million project. So I am thinking that around December/ January again that I will look for a raise due to increased responsibility and experienced gained!

Any thoughts?

L.Jenkins

If you wish to seek a raise, don't ask on the pretense of what you have done, but you will offer for a pay raise. That's as long as Management are satisfied you can stand by your word to work for your money.

Mr. Loverman

It is absolutely reasonable to expect some sort of raise each year. Go for it.

MouseTail

Absolutely ask, you will be worth a lot more to them then than you were in January this year. You never know, you might not have to ask.

Manach

From my own experience, waiting around and expecting to be awarded a raise out of the fairness of management is not a sound strategy:
ie go for it but bring proof of worth.

Jim2007

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

It is absolutely reasonable to expect some sort of raise each year. Go for it.

Why? Unless you have in some way gone brought additional value to your employer above and beyond what was expected - I see no reason.

Batgurl

Jim2007 wrote: »

Why? Unless you have in some way gone brought additional value to your employer above and beyond what was expected - I see no reason.

You've never heard of inflation? Cost of living increase?

Mr. Loverman

Jim2007 wrote: »

Why? Unless you have in some way gone brought additional value to your employer above and beyond what was expected - I see no reason.

Nearly everyone gets an annual raise. Those who don't either quit or know they will struggle in another company.

Also, as the post above explains, inflation. You really think your value this year, after working for an extra year, is 2% - 3% less than last year?

Jim2007

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Nearly everyone gets an annual raise. Those who don't either quit or know they will struggle in another company.

Also, as the post above explains, inflation. You really think your value this year, after working for an extra year, is 2% - 3% less than last year?

Well giving an increase every year just adds to inflation and unless you bring additional value to the firm I'd say you are worth about as much as the previous year.

I've not worked in Ireland in 30 years, but people's sense of entitlement really amazes me. Here a raise is very unusually and you really would have to have done something very much above and beyond to get it (and yes we have inflation too).

Mr. Loverman

Jim2007 wrote: »

Well giving an increase every year just adds to inflation and unless you bring additional value to the firm I'd say you are worth about as much as the previous year.

I've not worked in Ireland in 30 years, but people's sense of entitlement really amazes me. Here a raise is very unusually and you really would have to have done something very much above and beyond to get it (and yes we have inflation too).

Expecting a raise is not a sense of entitlement (assuming the person isn't rubbish at their job).

I'm not sure why you're trying to argue against the concept of annual raises being a normal thing...

drumswan

Jim2007 wrote: »

I've not worked in Ireland in 30 years, but people's sense of entitlement really amazes me. Here a raise is very unusually and you really would have to have done something very much above and beyond to get it (and yes we have inflation too).

A 'raise' in line with inflation happens because the money your employer pays you with is worth less than it was last year. Getting no raise year on year is effectively taking a pay cut.

doolox

...is a funny thing. If the employer class is looking for more money for a certain quantum of effort or a service it is called being "a good negotiator", or "getting your worth" etc. If and employee looks for more money it is called being "unreasonable", "demanding","disloyal" etc..

We have just seen the Britsh MP's getting a 10% pay rise this week as it is seen as necessary to "attract the right people", paying for performance etc.

But the ordinary employees can go take a jump.

Many jobs in Britain and Ireland have become singularly unattractive to people because of increasing costs of living, rents and transport but no increase in wages. Erosion of living standards and work conditions is what results.