Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

noodler

Dangelo Stocky Rage wrote: »

I really can't tolerate this level of posting from so called supporters. I need to leave the thread before I say something I'll get in trouble for.

The treatment of Balotelli in this thread is absolutely disgusting and from some posters I would expect a lot more from. I don't know what's gone wrong with this place.

The worst thing of all is he was good tonight but some can't see it because they are so blinded by their incorrect opinion.

Well at least now I know your argument is based on some naive support him not matter what principle.

Massive mistake his signing was, by no means the only issue this season, but one we cannot contend with, particularly when we are struggling.

NukaCola

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I think you must be missing all those moments as various players are having a go at Balo for his play. Sterling and Hendo could both have lamped him in the last couple of games.

I cant be bothered debating this any more. If you think MB is effecting team morale because they "have a go" at him for making wrong choices on the pitch, then we must have very sensitive players in our team.

kfallon

rarnes1 wrote: »

Aren't you the fella that was slating Lucas for years! (when Lucas was good!)

He was never good tbh!
I mean we will hardly look at his time as a midfield mainstay as being 'the glory years'.
No success with him as 'the first name on the team sheet', in fact we got to 2 finals the minute he got injured!

Turtyturd

NukaCola wrote: »

Have you proof that he is effecting team morale at LFC?

Does he need to improve? Absolutely.
Should he have swapped jerseys at HT? Almost certainly not.
Is he effecting people around him with a bad attitude? No evidence for this what so ever.

There seems to be an issue with him and Sterling, although I don't thinks it's all down to Balotelli.

garra

Augmerson wrote: »

Does it sound mad that despite being 3-0 down there are still some encouraging things about our play?

Only encouraging because Real were in cruise mode at that stage. I applaud your optimism though.

Benzino

I think Balotelli has been Rodgers best signing yet, taking all the focus away from Rodgers inability to fix the embarrassing deficiencies at the back. Maybe Rodgers did learn a thing or 2 from Mourhino !

Edit : didn't mean to quote a post.

darced

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Augmerson

garra wrote: »

Only encouraging because Real were in cruise mode at that stage. I applaud your optimism though.

No, before the goals, and even after, Liverpool had some good play. It was when they stopped the pressure and closing down that they conceded. Did you watch the match?

Harry Palmr

Augmerson wrote: »

Agreed and the game wasn't over.

Despite the defeat, I thought we played really well at times. If we could replicate that this weekend against Hull I think we'd get a win. The Count has to start this weekend. Bring back in Manquillo. Drop Balotelli for Borni or play the two together.

I said that above you, we saw something tonight that has been badly absent all season - pressing, harrying, pass and move high up the pitch. Had Studge been on the field Liverpool wouldn't have ended that game scoreless - we were just a sneeze away from a couple of goals as it was. This side is not a write off yet but until the defence is addressed its going to be under constant pressure.

T-K-O

Augmerson wrote: »

No, before the goals, and even after, Liverpool had some good play. It was when they stopped the pressure and closing down that they conceded. Did you watch the match?

As a team we don't do any of the things that made us so effective last year. We did for the first 15/20.

We still got hammered but apart from the Spurs game I actually enjoyed watching us during that period.

Nerdlingr

I said it after the qpr game on here and now again, balotelli does not seem to care. I would have dropped him for tonight's game after last Sunday and I hope at least this time Rodgers has the balls to drop him for the weekend. People saying on here he has been decent to excellent?!!! We watching the same player?? He's been average to piss poor at best, and that's being kind.
The swapping shirt thing. You're 3-0 down, being spanked by the opposition and yer man walks into the dressing with no Liverpool Jersey on whilst carrying a Madrid shirt? I would have f*cked him out of it. I hope Rodgers and some of his teammates did!! I hate that shirt swapping at half time sh*t, and especially when you consider the context of the game. The lad will never change, it was a gamble Rodgers took and it looks to have failed.
Oh, and can we please get another keeper? Mignolet diving in with his feet for the third goal. Chicken's way out.

Gbear

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Balo the worst.

If you'd already decided that you don't like him then you would probably make that call.

In reality, Allen, Henderson and Gerrard were all sub par and it would've been far more productive to actually have an attacker on the pitch than literally none.

Lallana was good when he came on but we still did **** all 2nd half of note.

stampydmonkey wrote: »

Bulsh1t...during the wotld cup it mentioned numerous times that players regularly swap jerseys at half time so is absolutely a non story. I don't agree with it but its now a common occurrence

Absolutely.

More bull**** driven by an agenda.

It happens all the time in football. People have their stall set out and warp reality to suit their argument.

dubdamo

I hate this ****e of swapping shirts at half time , hugging each other in the tunnel at the start of games, give me Roy Keane any time with psycho disdain of the opposition , and I'm a liverpool fan before anyone slags me off for praising Keane. You don't see it in a Big rugby game and you sure as ****e don't see it in a GAA game, maybe I'm just a grumpy old man.

MD1990

Balotelli wasn't that bad . I would give Borini another chance Saturday. Johnson has to be dropped.

Osmosis Jones

dubdamo wrote: »

I hate this ****e of swapping shirts at half time , hugging each other in the tunnel at the start of games, give me Roy Keane any time with psycho disdain of the opposition , and I'm a liverpool fan before anyone slags me off for praising Keane. You don't see it in a Big rugby game and you sure as ****e don't see it in a GAA game, maybe I'm just a grumpy old man.

Maybe you should just watch rugby or GAA if it bothers you so much. So the players aren't trying to kick lumps out of each other in the tunnel, who cares?

NukaCola

Turtyturd wrote: »

There seems to be an issue with him and Sterling, although I don't thinks it's all down to Balotelli.

Hardly a disease though

Harry Palmr

Brendan Rodgers has just let it be known he is unhappy with "shirt-swapgate"

Morzadec

Balo had a couple of good moments but overall it often feels like playing with 10 on the pitch.

He is a luxury player and his moments of quality are too infrequent but ultimately (and more importantly) too ineffectual to justify his place in the team.

It looks like his mind is elsewhere at times. Look at our first goal against QPR. His lack of concentration and presence in the game is criminal. Defenders get slated for these slips. Strikers should be held just as accountable. Why is Balotelli not scoring goals? You can start here. If he was fully involved in the moment he would have scored a few by now just by being in the right place.

Not sure if I'm explaining this well but there is no "flow" about him at the moment. He's going through the motions.

I would start anyone over him at the moment. We are playing with 10 at times

garra

darced wrote: »

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What a load of cobblers, don't even mention Suarez and Balotelli in the same sentence. Just because Balotelli is a Liverpool player does not mean Liverpool supporters can't give their opinion about his on-field attitude and performances, I've never heard such rubbish in my life.

darced

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Yeah Johnson was really terrible. Skrtel too. How they are getting away with it I do not know.

Watch Johnson first give the ball away in the lead up to the 2nd goal and then lose his man who scores. He's a calamity, calamity James if you will.

NukaCola

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Brendan Rodgers has just let it be known he is unhappy with "shirt-swapgate"

He said it last season when Sakho done it also.

Bowlardo

Madrid are class . no one in their right mind expect to get a result but certain thing need to be addressed. The back line is shocking, no leaders


I would get toure (organiser) and sakho in as soon as possible
Borini and sterling up front with lalalana
Gerard allen and hendo
get coutinho on for the last 30 minutes


Flanagan can't come back soon enough.


Ballotellii can feck off. bad for team spirit.

Harry Palmr

darced wrote: »

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Those two delivered, they were duper efficient postman. Two rounds a day. Balo misses the house unless he has bills in his hand.

Turtyturd

NukaCola wrote: »

Hardly a disease though

No it's not. And like I said I wouldn't put the blame squarely on Balotelli, Sterling's complaining at teammates has increased a lot in the last few months.

darced

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Ardent

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Brendan Rodgers has just let it be known he is unhappy with "shirt-swapgate"

He also said of Balo's substitution: "I felt we needed a bit more intensity".

Says it all really. As Morzadec pointed out, it sometimes feels like we're playing with 10 men.

Nerdlingr

darced wrote: »

Suarez and Sturridge were constantly at each other last year on the pitch and Sterling always seems to be mouthing to someone but once its Mario its destroying morale and spreading disease everywhere.

Suarez and sturridge were a partnership. You'll get disagreements from time to time, nothings serious. But everyone was pulling in the right direction. Has balotelli ever played in a partnership, ever connected with another striker? His assist stats are shocking. It really is all about him.

noodler

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Those two delivered, they were duper efficient postman. Two rounds a day. Balo misses the house unless he has bills in his hand.

They also had infectious effort.

They didn't blame others for their own mistakes. Suarez would give out for someone not squaring it alright.

Not the same thing as blaming a 19 year carrying the team's attack on his shoulders for your own mistakes.

Osmosis Jones

Bar Johnson, defensive personnel isn't the issue. Before coming to Liverpool, Lovren was one of the best defenders in the league and Sakho was great for PSG and even only conceded 1 goal playing for France in the World Cup.