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What type of player do you want to be?

  • 24-08-2014 06:19PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭


    So, given that there are many ways to approach this game, what type of golfer are you trying to be?

    What type of player are you trying to be? 71 votes

    Solid off your handicap, typically in or around buffer
    0% 0 votes
    Variable, can be +-3 of buffer
    56% 40 votes
    Wild, can be 5 under or 10 over
    30% 22 votes
    Anything can happen.
    12% 9 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Norfolk Enchants_


    Definitely an anything can happen and it usually does, I'd like to be able to eagle a difficult par 4 with a holed out 3 iron from 209 yards and then top my down the next fairway, for the craic like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Solid off your handicap, typically in or around buffer

    Good grief Greebo.............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    What???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    Variable for me. Solid would be nice if of a low hanicap but kind of indicates a plateau with handicap cuts few and far between. Variable with a +/- 3 shot of buffer variation is reasonably consistent but with enough potential to be competitive and further lower handicap especially if you can work on tightening up a few disaster holes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    ForeRight wrote: »
    What???

    My reaction exactly. I though we had made some progress, at least for the handful reading here, on this topic over the last few weeks.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056759176&page=10

    Whats the motivation Greebo; to see how many people's expectations are out of whack with reality, an idea to change the handicap system, or just, in our utopia, how would we like the golf handicap system to be ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭cairny


    There's a fella in our club who has been no higher than 5 for the last 30 years, as he's gotten older he's changed clubs and strategy and managed to stay there, he's very rarely in the prizes but I'd love to be that type of player.....just off a lower handicap than my own. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Dayor Knight


    GreeBo wrote: »
    So, given that there are many ways to approach this game, what type of golfer are you trying to be?

    Better. And enjoying it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,664 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    To not be a bandit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I don't know yet
    Want to end up near the top 2 options.

    But sadly at the moment I'm the bottom two wild and anything can happen.

    So still trying to find out.

    Spoke to a lad out west recently. He said to me . He got as low as he could . But realised that was no fun . So got to a handicap he was "comfortable with".

    The truth was revealed with 5 pints in him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,664 ✭✭✭✭Rikand



    Spoke to a lad out west recently. He said to me . He got as low as he could . But realised that was no fun . So got to a handicap he was "comfortable with".

    Name and shame imo ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    He was from Kildare and giving out about bandits. The irony. Some bandits have a moral code of banditry.

    A bit of a ...
    A real....
    An open...
    An out and out....
    An honest ......
    A shamless. ..

    But all joking aside. I think that is a wall even honest golfers hit. It is I can't handle this handicap. This is hard work. I'm not up to this.....

    If people are honest they hit that wall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭LinksLad


    The "Variable, can be +-3 of buffer" is where I'd like to get to.

    Where I am is the "Wild, can be 5 under or 10 over". I shot exactly those scores in consecutive competitive outings.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,335 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Solid, play some great shots, accept the odd sh1te shot but most of all enjoy over everything else. Oh and dry!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    He was from Kildare and giving out about bandits. The irony. Some bandits have a moral code of banditry.

    A bit of a ...
    A real....
    An open...
    An out and out....
    An honest ......
    A shamless. ..

    But all joking aside. I think that is a wall even honest golfers hit. It is I can't handle this handicap. This is hard work. I'm not up to this.....

    If people are honest they hit that wall.

    Is there any chance he was tired of playing the game a certain way to maintain his handicap ? So he was laying up on par 5s he could go for, avoiding firing at difficult pins and hitting middle of green instead ?

    What I am saying is that maybe he got bored playing golf he knew could keep him at his handicap and wanted to play "wilder" golf to have more fun ? Just throwing it out there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    @ alx

    No he was just 100 % genuine. I admired it. And I feel boards lads are perhaps not the norm.
    more people than we like to think, like to be comfortable. Or have a big performance in them with a push.


    They don't see any glory in buffers.
    Do you honestly remember rounds you get a buffer.

    On the other point. Yes I can go for all par 5s in 2 on mine. But handicap doesn't let me.
    I can see other lads who go for it off higher handicaps. You could chose to go for it and get a handicap to help that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭hades


    I think this is an important question that all golfers need to honestly ask themselves. I had a chat with a buddy recently who had just played a terrible round and i asked him what he wanted from his game. He wanted to be a good 16 hc golfer (off 22 currently), but the thing is, he wasn't doing anything to make that a reality. He was just turning up and expecting to play well.

    Now i told him to look at some of the other lads in the society, they were all having a laugh and enjoying themselves. They all had pretty similar rounds and their hc were around the same, but it didn't matter as for them the fun was getting out and playing with your buddies and having a few jars afterwards.

    And then there's the other side of it, i've a buddy who was pretty low 2 - 3, but he found being able to play off that hc was a lot of hard work. He needed to be practicing 3 to 4 times a week and he was loosing his enjoyment of the game, so like was mentioned above he's since slid out to around 6. He can play off 6 comfortably, he doesn't have to do hours of practice and can still put in the very good round every now and then.

    I think people forget that we play this game for fun, and in our free time.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    hades wrote: »
    I think people forget that we play this game for fun, and in our free time.

    That is my game in a nutshell! I would love to have a much lower handicap but i just don't have the time right now to put into practice / lessons so I have to remind myself every now and then that unless there is some kind of miracle, i'm this handicap for a reason!!
    And because of this, golf for me is about getting away from everything for a few hours to (try) enjoy myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    hades wrote: »
    I think this is an important question that all golfers need to honestly ask themselves. I had a chat with a buddy recently who had just played a terrible round and i asked him what he wanted from his game. He wanted to be a good 16 hc golfer (off 22 currently), but the thing is, he wasn't doing anything to make that a reality. He was just turning up and expecting to play well.

    Now i told him to look at some of the other lads in the society, they were all having a laugh and enjoying themselves. They all had pretty similar rounds and their hc were around the same, but it didn't matter as for them the fun was getting out and playing with your buddies and having a few jars afterwards.

    And then there's the other side of it, i've a buddy who was pretty low 2 - 3, but he found being able to play off that hc was a lot of hard work. He needed to be practicing 3 to 4 times a week and he was loosing his enjoyment of the game, so like was mentioned above he's since slid out to around 6. He can play off 6 comfortably, he doesn't have to do hours of practice and can still put in the very good round every now and then.

    I think people forget that we play this game for fun, and in our free time.

    This is what I was asking (in a round about kind of way/ different side of same coin)....do people see a difference between someone intentionally getting .1s to get to a higher handicap and someone practicing less/ playing less conservative and possibly drifting higher as a result ?

    I do....I think Mr One is a cheat and Mr Two is playing to the best of his ability within the constraints of time/practice and the kind of game he wants to play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    My reaction exactly. I though we had made some progress, at least for the handful reading here, on this topic over the last few weeks.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056759176&page=10

    Whats the motivation Greebo; to see how many people's expectations are out of whack with reality, an idea to change the handicap system, or just, in our utopia, how would we like the golf handicap system to be ?

    To try see what it is people are expecting of themselves and aiming for.

    For eg if you are trying to be a comfortable 16 yet shooting at pins its never gong to happen imo.
    Same as if you are trying to be a comfortable 5 and never practice from one round to the next I dont think it will happen either (unless you used to be scratch perhaps)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭hades


    I'd agree 100%, Mr One is a cheat. I don't think there's any question about it.

    In my experience, Mr Two's hc will fluctuate over time, for example, my buddies hc generally goes down over the summer (nicer weather, longer evenings, playing more) and his natural ability comes back. But once the weather turns bad and he doesn't play as often he'll be struggling to make the buffer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    I played 3/4 times a week practiced a good bit too was fairly consistent and got down to a low of 7.5. Not i still play twice a week handicap is heading towards 14 still do a small bit of practice and am definitly in the anything can happen bracket.
    Would love to get back to 9 and stay around that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    If I'm being 100 % honest . For me to stay low takes an impractical amount of time.
    To have work / life / home balance right . I'd have to drift out to 9 to 12.

    As hades said . At some stage you have to go. Ok what is a realistic goal. What is a happy compromise .

    Not at that point yet. But can totally understand anybody who had to do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭bmc58


    I don't know yet
    Want to end up near the top 2 options.

    But sadly at the moment I'm the bottom two wild and anything can happen.

    So still trying to find out.

    Spoke to a lad out west recently. He said to me . He got as low as he could . But realised that was no fun . So got to a handicap he was "comfortable with".

    The truth was revealed with 5 pints in him.
    A few pints nearly always loosens the tongue.
    dangerous things those pints.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Moat_Cailin


    Big Phil is my favourite player, so a wild gun slinging approach it will have to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Dayor Knight


    There are so many other answers to that original question..... good company on the course, enjoyable to play with, sporting, encouraging of partners, even tempered with own mistakes, sanguine with others. I'd like to be that sort of player .... gotta work on it! As for the rest... getting better and enjoying it. Would like to achieve a good cut through a couple of good scores, but buffer zones are of no interest to me at all. Having said that would of course prefer to be hitting consistent scores somewhere around the handicap, and some better.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    There are so many other answers to that original question..... good company on the course, enjoyable to play with, sporting, encouraging of partners, even tempered with own mistakes, sanguine with others. I'd like to be that sort of player .... gotta work on it! As for the rest... getting better and enjoying it. Would like to achieve a good cut through a couple of good scores, but buffer zones are of no interest to me at all. Having said that would of course prefer to be hitting consistent scores somewhere around the handicap, and some better.....

    Possibly, but the point of the poll is to find out what type of handicap golfer you want to be, I thought it was pretty obvious from the poll options?

    Buffer zones mean nothing but yet you want to be consistent?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Interesting that 73% of people want to consistently at least within 3 of their buffer yet the idea of laying up earns so much scorn.
    How do those of you in this category think you will be consistent at your handicap if you continue to take on these shots, considering the best in the world cant be consistent from day to day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Interesting that 73% of people want to consistently at least within 3 of their buffer yet the idea of laying up earns so much scorn.
    How do those of you in this category think you will be consistent at your handicap if you continue to take on these shots, considering the best in the world cant be consistent from day to day?

    What the hell has laying up got to do with playing to your handicap. :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭SaveOurLyric


    GreeBo wrote: »
    To try see what it is people are expecting of themselves and aiming for.

    For eg if you are trying to be a comfortable 16 yet shooting at pins its never gong to happen imo.
    Same as if you are trying to be a comfortable 5 and never practice from one round to the next I dont think it will happen either (unless you used to be scratch perhaps)

    Ta.

    And interesting reading in the numbers. 75% of (since they are reading/posting here) pretty interested and informed on matters golf golfers, have unrealistic aspirations for how their golf scores will relate to their handicap, and will either be disappointed more than they should be, or will be tempted to the handicap darkside (as per the tale above) to rectify matters to their satisfaction.


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