Anti ageing moisturiser for 'young' skin

Fluxfan

Hey peeps,

So it's come to my attention lately that I should be using an anti ageing moisturiser as I'm in my late 20s and this is the time to start (if not a bit too late!?). Eeek. Anyway -

Can anyone recommend a good one, that doesnt cost the earth, that would be suitable for normal/dry skin, that would be good for someone who is in their 20s?

Thanks in advance!

FullblownRose

Clarins Hydraquench. I use Aldi Lacura now and find it similar to Clarins day cream.

Fluxfan

Will check those out cheers! Good heads up on the Aldi find

Ah_Yeah

I use Olay Total Effects - I love the whipped texture of the cream, and it really hydrates and balances my combination skin.

Sweet Rose

Ah_Yeah wrote: »

I use Olay Total Effects - I love the whipped texture of the cream, and it really hydrates and balances my combination skin.

I swear by this moisturiser. It's fantastic. It's so important to get into a good skin care routine early on. Don't forget your eye cream too.

Ah_Yeah

I'm 24 and have been using the cream for about a year. Two pieces of advice my mother gave me: always take off your makeup before you go to sleep, and start using an anti-ageing cream before you need it - it's called 'anti' ageing for a reason

fussyonion

I love Johnson's 24 Hour Essentials Day Cream for the day.
It's really silky and sinks in quickly leaving your skin feeling babysoft.
It's also fantastic because it acts as a base for your make-up.

At night I swear by good ol' fashioned Nivea in the navy pot. Thick and luxurious and you wake up to soft skin.
I also like Astral cream.

All cheap as chips too!

Agree about always taking your make-up off though; even if you've only got the energy to use a wipe; it's better than nothing.

Lia_lia

I've been using Eucerin products now for a while, so good! And not too expensive.


I use that one as my moisturiser. My skin gets very dry (mainly in the winter), so this is great. They also do one for less-dry skin!


I use that eye cream. Only been using that for about a month, so far so good!


I also wear suncream on my face everyday. Even if it's not sunny! Best anti-aging product you can use really. The ultrasun one is good, especially if you have sensitive skin.

I used to use Olay products, but last winter my skin got extremely dry. And Olay wasn't good enough. I could get away with it in the summer alright, but I really like the Eucerin products now! I'm 25 btw!

How Strange

+1 that sunscreen is the best anti ageing product you can use from the time you're a teenager.

Plus stop smoking/don't start smoking.

After that a moisturiser is important but not more important than cleansing properly. Never use facial wipes, use a good cleansing product (balm, oil, milk) that doesn't dry your skin, use a serum and then a moisturiser.

I'd say as you get into late 20's/early 30's a good hydrating serum is as important as the moisturiser. They work together. Start using a serum and you'll notice the difference in your skin within days.

I don't think you need specific anti-ageing products until you're in your late 30's/early 40's.

ComputerKing

I can't give advice on anti aging creams because I haven't needed to use them yet. However I can tell you to make sure your moisturising twice a day amd using suncream every morning. Also make sure your drinking lots of water and getting a good nights sleep.

On the anit aging side have you thought about retin a. Now you will need a prescription for it and it mightn't be in your budget but it is one of the only products proven to reduce the look of wrinkles and erase fine lines. If it's out of your budget make sure your at least getting a product with retinol in it.

Tiddlypeeps

There are 3 major causes for ageing skin, sun damage, dehydration and loss of collagen in the skin.

Sun damage is the worst, UVA rays are the ones that cause ageing and UVB rays are the ones that burn. Clouds don't stop UVA rays like they do with UVB rays, so you can get just as much damage from them on an overcast day as a sunny one. This is why it's important to wear factor that protects against UVA everyday.

For the dehydration end of it you don't have to spend a fortune on a fancy cream if your lucky. As long as the consistency of it is moisturising enough to do the job but not too oily or heavy that it will cause you to break out. This is different for everyone and often involves a bit of trial and error. If your skin takes well to a bog standard cold cream then spending an extra fifty quid on a fancier moisturiser probably won't do much extra for you. Drinking plenty of water is just as if not more important than using and external moisturiser. Smoking and other environmental factors can dry out the skin too.

There is very little you can do about your skins natural loss of collagen over time bar cosmetic procedures. Lots of creams contain collagen, but a collagen molecule is way to large to ever penetrate the skin deep enough to have any effect. Many claim to also increase the production of collagen but most only have studies created and published by themselves to back that up which is essentially useless because they will only ever publish the elements of a study that agree with their claim.

Exfoliation is also important. It won't do a whole lot to stop your skin ageing, but it will make your skin appear much younger as it unblocks pores and removes dead skin that can enhance the appearance of lines and add dullness to the look of the skin. I'm not a fan of physical exfoliation as it can cause micro tears in the skin that do more harm than good. Chemical exfoliation is where it's at, something that contains small amounts of salicylic acid or glycolic acid. The only two I know of are Clarins exfoliating toner and Clinique clarifying lotion, there are probably more budget friendly options other there tho.

PinkLemonade

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

There are 3 major causes for ageing skin are sun damage, dehydration and loss of collagen in the skin.

Sun damage is the worst, UVA rays are the ones that cause ageing and UVB rays are the ones that burn. Clouds don't stop UVA rays like they do with UVB rays, so you can get just as much damage from them on an overcast day as a sunny one. This is why it's important to wear factor that protects against UVA everyday.

For the dehydration end of it you don't have to spend a fortune on a fancy cream if your lucky. As long as the consistency of it is moisturising enough to do the job but not too oily or heavy that it will cause you to break out. This is different for everyone and often involves a bit of trial and error. If your skin takes well to a bog standard cold cream then spending an extra fifty quid on a fancier moisturiser probably won't do much extra for you. Drinking plenty of water is just as if not more important than using and external moisturiser. Smoking and other environmental factors can dry out the skin too.

There is very little you can do about your skins natural loss of collagen over time bar cosmetic procedures. Lots of creams contain collagen, but a collagen molecule is way to large to ever penetrate the skin deep enough to have any effect. Many claim to also increase the production of collagen but most only have studies created and published by themselves to back that up which is essentially useless because they will only ever publish the elements of a study that agree with their claim.

Exfoliation is also important. It won't do a whole lot to stop your skin ageing, but it will make your skin appear much younger as it unblocks pores and removes dead skin that can enhance the appearance of lines and add dullness to the look of the skin. I'm not a fan of physical exfoliation as it can cause micro tears in the skin that do more harm than good. Chemical exfoliation is where it's at, something that contains small amounts of salicylic acid or glycolic acid. The only two I know of are Clarins exfoliating toner and Clinique clarifying lotion, there are probably more budget friendly options other there tho.

This!!!!!

Bosley1421

^^Pixi Glow Tonic is really reasonably priced, about €20 for 250 ml. It's a 5% glycolic acid toner.

FullblownRose

Bosley1421 wrote: »

^^Pixi Glow Tonic is really reasonably priced, about €20 for 250 ml. It's a 5% glycolic acid toner.

I've been curious abut glow tonic for ages. Is it ore of a thing for oly skin? I have dry skin that's so under control it's classed as normal but i think the balance could easily be tipped and it would become dry and sensitive if i use the wrong products.. I've used and got good results from a sample of Glamglow but never tried an acid peel...

I totally agree r.e hydration..you can drink lots of water or cocnut water which is more hydrating again but expensive...i avoid direct sunlight because i've type 1 skin and it does me no good plus i find sun cream gacky in texture..but i'd look for a light spray version of sunscreen if you're going to be exposed to the sunlight regularly. Serums are good before moisturiser, and you can't use night cream in the daytime as it is degraded in sunlight and you won't get the benefit of it..but there are too many kinds of creams out there and everyone has different skin that responds differently so the best thing is to go to a few beauty counters and tell them that you're looking for a new skincare range, what your skin type/concerns are, and request a few samples to try out.

How Strange

Bosley1421 wrote: »

^^Pixi Glow Tonic is really reasonably priced, about €20 for 250 ml. It's a 5% glycolic acid toner.

Where do you buy it? I've started using FAB radiance pads which are a chemical exfoliating toner. I've been using them for a week and I've noticed a difference already.

Fluxfan

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

Exfoliation is also important. It won't do a whole lot to stop your skin ageing, but it will make your skin appear much younger as it unblocks pores and removes dead skin that can enhance the appearance of lines and add dullness to the look of the skin. I'm not a fan of physical exfoliation as it can cause micro tears in the skin that do more harm than good. Chemical exfoliation is where it's at, something that contains small amounts of salicylic acid or glycolic acid. The only two I know of are Clarins exfoliating toner and Clinique clarifying lotion, there are probably more budget friendly options other there tho.

This sounds great. I love Clarins products so I might give this a try. Sorry for the basic question but how often should I exfoliate?

Also while I'm here I may as well ask - is toner important?!

P.S I decided to try the olay total effects night cream and had a sample of Clarins hydraquench so using that as a day cream over the weekend. Loving the softness so far can't believe what I was missing out on! :pac:

Thanks for all the advice everyone

Tiddlypeeps

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

There are 3 major causes for ageing skin, sun damage, dehydration and loss of collagen in the skin.

Sun damage is the worst, UVA rays are the ones that cause ageing and UVB rays are the ones that burn. Clouds don't stop UVA rays like they do with UVB rays, so you can get just as much damage from them on an overcast day as a sunny one. This is why it's important to wear factor that protects against UVA everyday.

For the dehydration end of it you don't have to spend a fortune on a fancy cream if your lucky. As long as the consistency of it is moisturising enough to do the job but not too oily or heavy that it will cause you to break out. This is different for everyone and often involves a bit of trial and error. If your skin takes well to a bog standard cold cream then spending an extra fifty quid on a fancier moisturiser probably won't do much extra for you. Drinking plenty of water is just as if not more important than using and external moisturiser. Smoking and other environmental factors can dry out the skin too.

There is very little you can do about your skins natural loss of collagen over time bar cosmetic procedures. Lots of creams contain collagen, but a collagen molecule is way to large to ever penetrate the skin deep enough to have any effect. Many claim to also increase the production of collagen but most only have studies created and published by themselves to back that up which is essentially useless because they will only ever publish the elements of a study that agree with their claim.

Exfoliation is also important. It won't do a whole lot to stop your skin ageing, but it will make your skin appear much younger as it unblocks pores and removes dead skin that can enhance the appearance of lines and add dullness to the look of the skin. I'm not a fan of physical exfoliation as it can cause micro tears in the skin that do more harm than good. Chemical exfoliation is where it's at, something that contains small amounts of salicylic acid or glycolic acid. The only two I know of are Clarins exfoliating toner and Clinique clarifying lotion, there are probably more budget friendly options other there tho.

Nice sensible advice. There isn't a decent dermatologist (not those working in the cosmetic industry) who'd advocate buying an expensive moisturiser over a quite basic one with sunscreen. All you're paying for is perhaps a different texture or fragrance, and probably nicer packaging.

Often you see 'patented ingredients' with names like Cosmotox or something scientific sounding, but these are just ingredients labelled by the company themselves that they use as a vehicle for their more impressive claims. Remember that something being clinically proven to improve (the appearance of) wrinkles might mean that they look .05% better over skin with no moisturiser at all applied. The whole '70% of 43 women agreed...' thing is hilariously obvious.

I wish there was stricter regulation of the whole industry and much stricter policing of the claims being made and the wording of adverts, and clear guidelines on what actually works in what concentration, but as long as they can produce misleading adverts, with convincing sounding claims, then there will be people who feel they're doing better for their faces with a $200 cream instead of a $5 cream with almost identical ingredients. It's a very parasitic business that lives off creating and exploiting insecurities.

Sunscreen is the only reliable anti ager, along with a generally good diet and lifestyle.

/rant.

Lia_lia

Fluxfan wrote: »

This sounds great. I love Clarins products so I might give this a try. Sorry for the basic question but how often should I exfoliate?

Also while I'm here I may as well ask - is toner important?!

P.S I decided to try the olay total effects night cream and had a sample of Clarins hydraquench so using that as a day cream over the weekend. Loving the softness so far can't believe what I was missing out on! :pac:

Thanks for all the advice everyone

Did you get a facial suncream? That really is the most important!

With regards exfoliation I don't really bother. If I exfoliate my skins gets irritated and I get spots. Don't bother with toner either. Generally irritates my skin. But it depends on your skin type really.

Last_Minute

Can i ask how people know that anti-aging creams even work?

You are getting older every day, so how do you actually gauge how effective they are over a long period of time?

Tiddlypeeps

Fluxfan wrote: »

This sounds great. I love Clarins products so I might give this a try. Sorry for the basic question but how often should I exfoliate?

Also while I'm here I may as well ask - is toner important?!

P.S I decided to try the olay total effects night cream and had a sample of Clarins hydraquench so using that as a day cream over the weekend. Loving the softness so far can't believe what I was missing out on! :pac:

Thanks for all the advice everyone

It's different for everyone, some people find they don't need to at all. I use a chemical exfoliator roughly every 2 days, sometimes everyday and sometimes I leave it longer. Depends on the condition of my skin at the time.

Your skin should never feel tight or sensitive afterwards, if it does then you are doing it too often or using a product that is too harsh for your skin.

I think toner these days is a bit of a gimmick. It was originally created for actresses who had to use gallons of cold cream to take off their make up, its purpose was to remove the greasy residue left by the cream. Unless you are using something like a hot cloth cleanser or other cream cleansers then I don't think they do a whole lot. Although saying that chemical exfoliators are often classed as toners, so in that case they are great

Fluxfan

Lia_lia wrote: »

Did you get a facial suncream? That really is the most important!

I always wear make up with a factor 15 SPF. Should I wear a facial sun cream as well as this?

Ah_Yeah

Ah_Yeah wrote: »

I use Olay Total Effects - I love the whipped texture of the cream, and it really hydrates and balances my combination skin.

I'm not interested in the anti ageing part but the sensitive skin and combination skin bits sound good. I might try that!
I tried sanctuary somethingorother recently and i dont like the feel of it

Lia_lia

Fluxfan wrote: »

I always wear make up with a factor 15 SPF. Should I wear a facial sun cream as well as this?

Foundations generally do not contain enough sunscreen at all to protect you. And it also may not be a broad spectrum sunscreen. You would probably need put on multiple layers of your foundation to get even a bit of sun protection! My foundation also has sunscreen in it, but that means nothing to me really. Good article here: http://www.m.webmd.com/healthy-beauty/features/sunscreen-and-your-makeup-routine

lindtee

I got a few of Soap and glory make yourself youthful sunshield superfluid spf50+ Its very light in texture, not at all greasy. Watch getting it near the eyes though. It normally retails for €19 in Irish boots stores but its coming up at €4.49 on the site. Plus its buy one get one half price. (Free delivery to store over €25)

Fluxfan

Lia_lia wrote: »

Foundations generally do not contain enough sunscreen at all to protect you. And it also may not be a broad spectrum sunscreen. You would probably need put on multiple layers of your foundation to get even a bit of sun protection! My foundation also has sunscreen in it, but that means nothing to me really. Good article here: http://www.m.webmd.com/healthy-beauty/features/sunscreen-and-your-makeup-routine

- "Makeup does not provide enough coverage...You need seven times the normal amount of foundation and 14 times the normal amount of powder to get the sun protection factor on the label."

Eye opening!!! :eek: I always thought I was grand with the spf in the foundation. Even told himself a couple of weeks ago to make sure he remembered sun cream on his face, but that I wouldnt need the same as I was wearking foundation

copea2

Fluxfan wrote: »

Eye opening!!! :eek: I always thought I was grand with the spf in the foundation

Me Too! I just assumed as there was an SPF in my foundation, that that would count as the sunscreen. (Why else is it in it otherwise?)

Think its time to invest in a separate facial sunscreen now

loveemmaxxxx

Fluxfan wrote: »

Hey peeps,

So it's come to my attention lately that I should be using an anti ageing moisturiser as I'm in my late 20s and this is the time to start (if not a bit too late!?). Eeek. Anyway -

Can anyone recommend a good one, that doesnt cost the earth, that would be suitable for normal/dry skin, that would be good for someone who is in their 20s?

Thanks in advance!

lancome genifique it's amazing, me and my sister got it for my mam like 3 weeks ago for my mams birthday. It's €73 for it but debenhams were doing a set for the same price and you also got the eye serum, night cream and genjfique for the same prise. I used it a few times and my skin felt amazing even the day after. It's one amazing product

Bosley1421

How Strange wrote: »

Where do you buy it? I've started using FAB radiance pads which are a chemical exfoliating toner. I've been using them for a week and I've noticed a difference already.

Sorry, forgot about this thread!
I buy it from Mise Beauty online. They're in Dundalk but the website is in sterling.

Fullblownrose, it has witch hazel in it so might be an irritant on dry skin.
When I have a rosacea outbreak I need to avoid my cheeks with the Pixi Glow whereas another glycolic acid toner without witch hazel is fine. I have combination skin so dry on the cheeks and it's also quite sensitive to manual exfoliation.