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Demographics from Dublin airport.

  • 20-08-2014 7:48pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭


    Do Irish people actually use Dublin airport lol? I've only been to this airport once but when I took my flight to/from America there didn't seem to be very many Irish people on these planes. On the way there I didn't see a single Irish person either before boarding or on the plane, on the way back it was pretty much the same with just one Irish person in the six rows around me. Now this was different flying from Belfast where it was more 50/50 - I noticed this at the Newark airport too with many Belfast accents to be heard at the gate.

    Do the Irish passengers support Aer Lingus and only fly them? OR was this just an anomaly?

    I found this to be very odd as Dublin Airport caters for Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    No, we just catapult ourselves off the west coast and hope for the best.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    No need for sarcastic comments, it was just something that me and my family noticed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭airbus125


    Im not being sarcastic here but hardly anybody in Dublin would go down to Cork or Shannon for a flight unless the airport had a route Dublin didn't have or was considerably cheaper. If they don't use Dublin Airport they probably don't fly. Most Irish people would use Aer Lingus compared to US citizens who would fly a particular airline if they were part of the loyalty programme.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    airbus125 wrote: »
    Im not being sarcastic here but hardly anybody in Dublin would go down to Cork or Shannon for a flight unless the airport had a route Dublin didn't have or was considerably cheaper. If they don't use Dublin Airport they probably don't fly. Most Irish people would use Aer Lingus compared to US citizens who would fly a particular airline if they were part of the loyalty programme.

    So Irish people would pick their own airline then?

    I thought maybe thats what it was as there was no way it was just Americans using the flights to/from America. Its obviously a different situation in Belfast due to the one flight.

    We just went to Dublin as they have the immigration there and it is MUCH cheaper to fly from there (despite the removal of taxes from Belfast).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    I believe Ireland has the highest loyalty to their own airlines of any Democratic country in the world. I use Dublin whenever I fly, it's my local airport. There are only 2 TATL airports in Ireland, Dublin and Shannon. So unless you were in a different terminal. Don't forget Ireland has 6 million tourists a year. That's 12 million journeys from Cork, Dublin, Shannon, Knock and plenty of ports.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Another thing that fascinates me with advertising of some airlines of how it's done so wrong at times, has anyone in DUB the last few days seen Aircoach buses with ''fly KLM from Cork to the World.'' - I would have thought a more effective campaign would be ''The world via Cork and Dublin with KLM'' considering the Aircoach buses end up in either city numerous times during the day and as KL code-shares with EI from both ORK/DUB. Strange one I thought!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    I go on a flight nearly every week, there are always Irish people on the flights??

    Maybe you were on the touristy plane, judging by your tourist head in the clouds thread.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    I was on United airlines - THAT is not tourist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    man98 wrote: »
    I believe Ireland has the highest loyalty to their own airlines of any Democratic country in the world. I use Dublin whenever I fly, it's my local airport. There are only 2 TATL airports in Ireland, Dublin and Shannon. So unless you were in a different terminal. Don't forget Ireland has 6 million tourists a year. That's 12 million journeys from Cork, Dublin, Shannon, Knock and plenty of ports.

    Well in Belfast we just fly on the cheapest.

    Don't see why I would bother flying on Aer Lingus due to no connection opportunities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Let me get this straight. You flew out of Dublin ONCE?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    owenc wrote: »
    Don't see why I would bother flying on Aer Lingus due to no connection opportunities.

    Where did you connect to on United that isn't offered over the EI codeshare?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    MYOB wrote: »
    Where did you connect to on United that isn't offered over the EI codeshare?

    I don't have to justify my choice or airlines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    What a strange thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    owenc wrote: »
    I don't have to justify my choice or airlines.

    But did you not by saying you chose United for cxn choices:confused:
    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Another thing that fascinates me with advertising of some airlines of how it's done so wrong at times, has anyone in DUB the last few days seen Aircoach buses with ''fly KLM from Cork to the World.'' - I would have thought a more effective campaign would be ''The world via Cork and Dublin with KLM'' considering the Aircoach buses end up in either city numerous times during the day and as KL code-shares with EI from both ORK/DUB. Strange one I thought!

    Off topic, but I die a little inside when I see the Harvey Norman adverts in T1 advertising dishwashers and the like. Welcome to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,064 ✭✭✭The_Wanderer


    owenc wrote: »
    I was on United airlines - THAT is not tourist.

    That possibly may just explain why you didn't see many Irish folk on board. Personally speaking if going T/A I will always use Aer Lingus. I will use Aer Lingus or City Jet (new convert to them) for UK and Europe.

    In the many times I've been in DUB I've seen Irish people in the airport. You make it sound like they are an ethnic minority in Dublin.

    The Wanderer.
    P.S. I actually thought this was going to be an interesting thread on nationality breakdown on DUB Passengers :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Danbo! wrote: »
    But did you not by saying you chose United for cxn choices:confused:



    Off topic, but I die a little inside when I see the Harvey Norman adverts in T1 advertising dishwashers and the like. Welcome to Ireland.

    My choices for using them were because they were cheaper and I preferred a stop over. I've also used them before and thought they were a good airline so yeah.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    That possibly may just explain why you didn't see many Irish folk on board. Personally speaking if going T/A I will always use Aer Lingus. I will use Aer Lingus or City Jet (new convert to them) for UK and Europe.

    In the many times I've been in DUB I've seen Irish people in the airport. You make it sound like they are an ethnic minority in Dublin.

    Obviously it is different down there than here and in England.

    I just found it funny how were on this plane from Dublin yet there were basically no Irish people on board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Was looking forward to seeing some nice stats on airport use here and this is what i get, ugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭billie1b


    owenc wrote: »
    I just found it funny how were on this plane from Dublin yet there were basically no Irish people on board.

    Can you explain how you knew they weren't Irish?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Was looking forward to seeing some nice stats on airport use here and this is what i get, ugh.

    You can post some if you want.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    owenc wrote: »
    I don't have to justify my choice or airlines.

    Best not to make claims if you don't want to back them up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭ProfessorPlum


    Someone's a bit jetlagged and grumpy!


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    billie1b wrote: »
    Can you explain how you knew they weren't Irish?

    He asked each and every one where they were from of course !

    I can tell you that a good number of my colleagues use United as Newark is closer to Manhattan than JFK and the flights are often cheaper.

    Others use Aer Lingus because of travel industry tickets.

    I prefer the the 2x seating on the A330, flying out of JFK, the very early morning arrival back into Dublin, the aircraft being in better shape. Any stories I have heard of the 757's have said they haven't been in great shape and IFE is poor. Been a while though since I flew to the US.

    Flying short haul I will use whomever is the cheapest with the best times on the day I want to fly to the airport nearest where I want to go to.




    I agree this is a strange thread.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    It was pretty obvious that they were American by their accents/dress code.

    I know you business travellers are brilliant and travel the world but try and be less intolerant of other people who only go travelling a couple times a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭billie1b


    owenc wrote: »
    It was pretty obvious that they were American by their accents/dress code.

    I know you business travellers are brilliant and travel the world but try and be less intolerant of other people who only go travelling a couple times a year.

    Thats a couple of more times a year than me :D
    Your analogy of knowing if they were Irish or not don't mean Jack, my partner has a non Irish accent but is Irish, like many others


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    owenc wrote: »
    It was pretty obvious that they were American by their accents/dress code.

    I apologise for making such a childish thread. I know you business travellers are brilliant and travel the world but try and be less intolerant of other people who only go travelling a couple times a year.

    One flight doesn't make an airport, especially one that handles 550+ flights a day in the summer your flight represented less than 0.2% of the flights that day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭lord lucan


    This'll give you a good idea of the breakdown of the demographics,Irish and foreign alike that use DUB. This is from last month.

    Resize_July_image.sflb.ashx

    My experience of both CO/UA is that it is very often filled mainly by Americans,particularly groups of older pax on CIE Tours to Ireland. Whilst the Irish will often go with the Shamrock the Americans are more price sensitive and will go with the cheapest option,even if it involves 2 or 3 flights.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Some business travellers do have this stuck up attitude/sense of entitlement though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    lord lucan wrote: »
    This'll give you a good idea of the breakdown of the demographics,Irish and foreign alike that use DUB. This is from last month.

    Resize_July_image.sflb.ashx

    My experience of both CO/UA is that it is very often filled mainly by Americans,particularly groups of older pax on CIE Tours to Ireland. Whilst the Irish will often go with the Shamrock the Americans are more price sensitive and will go with the cheapest option,even if it involves 2 or 3 flights.

    Yeah it was old people on our flight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    Irish people love Aer Lingus. If we don't fly with them, we'll fly with the US airline with a good reputation. From what I've heard, United isn't very liked, anyone I've heard from only rates Alleigant below them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    owenc wrote: »
    You can post some if you want.

    Lord Lucan did it for me, you might find the results displayed to be of interest, apparently some Irish people are using DUB, shocked i tell you.:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Aer Lingus and Delta would be top choice for Irish passengers, United are likely in thid spot followed by US and American.

    Aer Lingus are usually the best on price once booked at the right time!
    In the many times I've been in DUB I've seen Irish people in the airport. You make it sound like they are an ethnic minority in Dublin.

    Of course you have if not passengers, then staff :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Aer Lingus and Delta would be top choice for Irish passengers, United are likely in thid spot followed by US and American.

    Aer Lingus are usually the best on price once booked at the right time!



    Of course you have if not passengers, then staff :D

    Well they have not been cheap when i've checked!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    owenc wrote: »
    Well they have not been cheap when i've checked!!

    Aer Lingus are an LCC. I've seen New York - Shannon for €219 one way recently. Roughly $300... not sure whether it was a sale or just off peak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    billie1b wrote: »
    Can you explain how you knew they weren't Irish?

    They weren't dressed in green and carrying gold.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    man98 wrote: »
    Aer Lingus are an LCC. I've seen New York - Shannon for €219 one way recently. Roughly $300... not sure whether it was a sale or just off peak.

    Thats one way though.. They advertise that their fares are cheap and then when you go in and see that it is one way it ends up being £600..

    Its such a fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    owenc wrote: »
    Well they have not been cheap when i've checked!!

    For peak summer months you really would need to book EI in the next few weeks for the best fare especially long haul.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    We got United for £550 at February for June.

    It was £400 for AA but I refuse to sit in a domestic 757 with no seatback tvs for 6 hours.. Not happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    owenc wrote: »
    We got United for £550 at February for June.

    It was £400 for AA but I refuse to sit in a domestic 757 with no seatback tvs for 6 hours.. Not happening.
    £150 just to have seatback entertainment? You clearly would love Ryanair.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    owenc wrote: »
    I was on United airlines - THAT is not tourist.
    The airline doesn't justify the label, the reason for travel does.
    owenc wrote: »
    Do Irish people actually use Dublin airport lol? I've only been to this airport once.............
    "Once"
    owenc wrote: »
    I don't have to justify my choice or airlines.
    Well when you start a thread based on a highly specific opinion you formed based on 1 experience you would need to justify your experience.
    owenc wrote: »
    Yeah it was old people on our flight.
    So now its that the single flight from DUB was full of old foreign people?
    owenc wrote: »
    Thats one way though.. They advertise that their fares are cheap and then when you go in and see that it is one way it ends up being £600..
    Its such a fake.
    The poster already mentioned the one-way aspect. Maybe you should start a campaign to inform the 1000's of EI passenger that they are being overcharged......or maybe they are happy with the price they paid?
    owenc wrote: »
    We got United for £550 at February for June.
    It was £400 for AA but I refuse to sit in a domestic 757 with no seatback tvs for 6 hours.. Not happening.

    Great that you're able to be picky......youngsters these days!!! :D




    To throw some statistics at you.......EI operate some fligts during the Summer with "up to 75% connection passengers"....so I'm going to bet you were on a flight along these lines. Now as with many of your threads please stop making sweeping generalisations based on the limited observations you made. You may feel hurt by the posts of more regular travellers however please remember that they spend many more hours in an airport people watching.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,050 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    owenc wrote: »
    I just found it funny how were on this plane from Dublin yet there were basically no Irish people on board.
    You were on board flying the flag for us! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭billie1b


    murphaph wrote: »
    You were on board flying the flag for us! :D

    'Fleg'

    :D


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    murphaph wrote: »
    You were on board flying the flag for us! :D

    You had to mention flags didn't ya !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭basill


    Don't feed the troll. His threads usually end up in a north versus south debate, and yet he allegedly travelled down to Dublin to save some coin. He lacks the fundamentals to provide an insightful debate to the aviation forums.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    basill wrote: »
    Don't feed the troll. His threads usually end up in a north versus south debate, and yet he allegedly travelled down to Dublin to save some coin. He lacks the fundamentals to provide an insightful debate to the aviation forums.

    How do you know my intentions? :roll eyes:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    owenc wrote: »
    How do you know my intentions? :roll eyes:

    Because of your past posting history. You start with one argument/point and then evolve the debate as your generalisations are refuted.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    I only visit the Aviation section of this forum nowadays so i'm not quite sure what you are talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 922 ✭✭✭FWVT


    Owen, did you really ask if Irish people use Dublin Airport? Sorry, maybe I just read it wrong...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Aer Arann fly between Kerry and Dublin for example. Wonder how many of those passengers are Irish? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Aer Arann fly between Kerry and Dublin for example. Wonder how many of those passengers are Irish? :)

    Shag all, no Irish people to be seen in DUB these days dont you know.


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