Overtaking

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Is there any reason why somebody you have overtaken on your bike, would then position themselves in front of you when stopped at a red light?

It happens me all the time, and I cannot get my head around it. I am going to overtake you in a short distance, why bother getting ahead of me at a light?

Also, for those cyclists who think that overtaking another cyclist at close proximity is ok, well it's not.

Why do these things?

yes there

Because they are idiots. I also find they are the ones that break lights aswell. Always happens, everyday. There is at least one a day that dies this. If you do this it makes you look like a ****.

quozl

Scarlet Acidic Mustache wrote: »

Is there any reason why somebody you have overtaken on your bike, would then position themselves in front of you when stopped at a red light?

I had someone do this to me while they were wearing boards gear at the Rathmines/Canal bridge.

Who exactly are we letting into our exclusive club these days!

Chips Lovell

They do it to motorists too. Wait for an opportunity to safely overtake cyclist and the numpty then passes up inside you again at the lights, meaning you have to perform another overtaking manoeuvre. Sigh.

Raam

This is an acceptable response to someone shoaling you...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85fH3y4ezdg

Raam

Sometimes there is collateral damage though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJQyojQfC4c

Alanstrainor

Pain in the hoop when commuting in. Everyone does it, I will overtake the same people about 10 times on my commute, all immediately after a set of lights. They're just clueless idiots, never been arsed to say anything!

mathie

I caught up on a guy on the N11 a few weeks ago and he started to do this.
A few red lights in a row and I'd pass him each time, then when I came to the red light in font of me he'd go and the process started again.
I could see he was busting a gut to do it each time too.

Then he started to break the reds to get a bit more distance.
That didn't work out either.

Then we came to a nice long stretch of about a mile and a half uninterrupted road.
I took the advice that I'd read on this forum a while back.

I put the hammer down and I dropped him like a mofo.

Tenzor07

Good to see that a small group of road users can ignite such contempt and stoke up so many replies on boards... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057269744&page=7

ZiabR

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

They do it to motorists too. Wait for an opportunity to safely overtake cyclist and the numpty then passes up inside you again at the lights, meaning you have to perform another overtaking manoeuvre. Sigh.

Thats a good point. Drives me nuts.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Yea true, I said it to somebody once, and he wasn't very happy about it. Got somewhat abusive.

I told him that every time he passes me and breaks the red light I have to overtake him, and why doesn't he stay behind me. The perfect answer, and one that a lot of cyclists think of regularly.

"there's no cars comming, what's the problem?"

marcus2000

would it be something to do with wanting to push off marginally ahead of 'all' other traffic (not specifically the cyclist that just over took you)........instead of being with the traffic when the lights change. (I believe the new bike traffic lights will eventually be giving cyclists a head start over traffic) Maybe?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

marcus2000 wrote: »

would it be something to do with wanting to push off marginally ahead of 'all' other traffic (not specifically the cyclist that just over took you)........instead of being with the traffic when the lights change. (I believe the new bike traffic lights will eventually be giving cyclists a head start over traffic) Maybe?

It's possible. Especially at junctions with left hand turns, but this just means that the cyclist is unwilling to abide by the rules of the road and/or apply common sense.

If there's a queue of bikes at a red light, just wait at the back and take your turn to proceed.

Chips Lovell

It's also one of the reasons why I think advance stop boxes are a bad idea. They just encourage this kind of behaviour.

magicbastarder

marcus2000 wrote: »

would it be something to do with wanting to push off marginally ahead of 'all' other traffic (not specifically the cyclist that just over took you)........instead of being with the traffic when the lights change. (I believe the new bike traffic lights will eventually be giving cyclists a head start over traffic) Maybe?

i've always assumed this was the cause. they feel safest getting away from the lights before other cars, especially if they have a red box and can sit in front of the car and 'control' the pulloff at a green light.

droidus

One of the prime directives of commuting: Never move ahead of someone who is faster than you at the lights.

quozl

magicbastarder wrote: »

they feel safest getting away from the lights before other cars, especially if they have a red box and can sit in front of the car and 'control' the pulloff at a green light.

Is that not the point of the advance stop box? IE what it's designed to do for safety reasons?

To be clear I'm not talking about going off before the light goes green, I'm just talking about what you've written above.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Oscar Gateaux wrote: »

It's also one of the reasons why I think advance stop boxes are a bad idea. They just encourage this kind of behaviour.

I think they are a great addition. Especially when turning right, or if there is a left turn at the junction. They come in really handy.