WTF is a kipping pull up??

Hanley

evo2000 wrote: »

Its a legitimate question, which would you choose? strict or kipping if you d only a set amount time to work out , would you go with kips or strict ?

I'd pick strict.

But if someone has enough time to post and read this drivel on boards, they've enough time to do both kipping and strict pull ups in their training programs.

So it's all quite moot anyway.

/nick bluesheep

Alf Veedersane

evo2000 wrote: »

Id weight em up by which is the most effective of the two, which benefits the person the most clearly strict is far better.

You're very into being strict.

I'd say there's a bit of a Christian Brother in you.

So to speak.

evo2000

Hanley wrote: »

I'd pick strict.

But if someone has enough time to post and read this drivel on boards, they've enough time to do both kipping and strict pull ups in their training programs.

So it's all quite moot anyway.

As would most people! and with good reason!

Yeah we all have alot of time on our hands posting on here!

evo2000

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You're very into being strict.

I'd say there's a bit of a Christian Brother in you.

So to speak.

You suck bawls at insults id say they res a breed of a nancy in you !

evo2000

bluewolf wrote: »

/nick bluesheep

you re welcome! lol

dylbert

evo2000 wrote: »

But you arent doing a high volume of pull ups in fran kips are not and never will be a pull up, i question crossfit in general whether its the most effective form of training, or even safe for that matter.

Traditional circuit training imo is far safer and better.

The idea of doing olympic style lifts to infinite reps just seems stupid to me they werent designed for that,

But this is just my opinion!

You've obviously never done Fran, strict or otherwise, so you'll never understand.

JJayoo

The important questions

1) Do Kip ups work the same muscles as strict pullups? If you watch a slow motion video it's almost an horizontal pull/inverted row instead of a vertical pull.

2) There is no question 2.

top madra

Hanley wrote: »

Total squats, bench presses, deadlifts, reverse lunges, behind the neck push presses: Zero.

Total kipping pull ups: 100+.

Future shoulders issues: Over 9000.

evo2000

top madra wrote: »

Future shoulders issues: Over 9000.

Them behind the neck presses tho!

we better not say too much tho his got 6 years of powerlifting he is all knowning!! and he will set his devote followers on us bluewolf and alf-nancy if we arent careful! lol

Hanley

top madra wrote: »

Future shoulders issues: Over 9000.

Dude... 25-50+% of people training "normally" have frickin' shoulder issues!

evo2000

Hanley wrote: »

Dude... 25-50+% of people training "normally" have frickin' shoulder issues!

You keep telling yourself that lol nice bro math too lol

Hanley

evo2000 wrote: »

You keep telling yourself that lol nice bro math too lol

I meet 100+ people a week on a personal basis who have trusted me with the responsibility of making sure they avoid being in that percentage.

Or maybe I don't own a couple of gyms and this is all a massive illusion.

evo2000

Hanley wrote: »

I meet 100+ people a week on a personal basis who have trusted me with the responsibility of making sure they avoid being in that percentage.

Or maybe I don't own a couple of gyms and this is all a massive illusion.

And let me guess you tell em do behind the neck press! lmao please tell me more! lol

Hanley

evo2000 wrote: »

And let me guess you tell em do behind the neck press! lmao please tell me more! lol

Yah man - bottom position behind the neck snatch grip 1.5 presses. Kill the weight or kill your shoulders. Law of the jungle baby!!

#OnlyTheStrongSurvive

Transform

Evo2000 you are about 3yrs behind on your CrossFit trolling, most standard CrossFit gyms have strict guides on pull-ups and kipping pull-ups. So calm the hell down.

I compete in CrossFit and have done for a while now and not once has a kipping pull-up been responsible for any shoulder injuries I have gotten.

I've even done a guide on upper back exercises you should be doing here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnTCswcA-aw

I'm not alone in doing videos like this and many many CrossFit and non-CrossFit people have similar standards and progressions, these are just mine.

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

Evo2000 you are about 3yrs behind on your CrossFit trolling, most standard CrossFit gyms have strict guides on pull-ups and kipping pull-ups. So calm the hell down.

I compete in CrossFit and have done for a while now and not once has a kipping pull-up been responsible for any shoulder injuries I have gotten.

I've even done a guide on upper back exercises you should be doing here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnTCswcA-aw

I'm not alone in doing videos like this and many many CrossFit and non-CrossFit people have similar standards and progressions, these are just mine.

I wasnt really trolling originally i was asking a genuine question, but then hanley and his groupies alf and blue got all but hurt because i didnt agree with what they were saying so we ve been having a **** slinging contest since,

Such is the way of these threads it would seem, especially going against the teachings of a crossfit cult inspires rage!

Lesson learn on my behalf! lol

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

Evo2000 you are about 3yrs behind on your CrossFit trolling, most standard CrossFit gyms have strict guides on pull-ups and kipping pull-ups. So calm the hell down.

I compete in CrossFit and have done for a while now and not once has a kipping pull-up been responsible for any shoulder injuries I have gotten.

I've even done a guide on upper back exercises you should be doing here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnTCswcA-aw

I'm not alone in doing videos like this and many many CrossFit and non-CrossFit people have similar standards and progressions, these are just mine.

I do a similar workout to that - the rings and kipping, most of thats nothing to do with crossfit thats just working out lol

Good video tho

Transform

evo2000 wrote: »

I wasnt really trolling originally i was asking a genuine question, but then hanley and his groupies alf and blue got all but hurt because i didnt agree with what they were saying so we ve been having a **** slinging contest since,

Such is the way of these threads it would seem, especially going against the teachings of a crossfit cult inspires rage!

Lesson learn on my behalf! lol

Emmm that's not how it looks from where I'm sitting.

As pointed out the whole kipping pull up is a very very old argument that's been done to death.

99% of my clients never do kipping pull-ups because I don't train them to do CrossFit competitions.

I do them as part of training because it's part of my sport and I practice them in the same way I practice handstands, snatches, squats etc

Transform

evo2000 wrote: »

I do a similar workout to that - the rings and kipping, most of thats nothing to do with crossfit thats just working out lol

Good video tho

Which are central parts to CrossFit.

The basic problem here is you're taking info from videos you want to hate on yet when someone that actually does CrossFit and teaches it you want to categorise it differently.

If you sat and chatted face to face with someone like myself you would realise we have more things to agree on than disagree

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

Emmm that's not how it looks from where I'm sitting.

As pointed out the whole kipping pull up is a very very old argument that's been done to death.

99% of my clients never do kipping pull-ups because I don't train them to do CrossFit competitions.

I do them as part of training because it's part of my sport and I practice them in the same way I practice handstands, snatches, squats etc

You re only looking for a reason to disagree with me so you can get a pat on the back from the rest of the groupies, theres like a set grp of ye that just go around backin each other up regardless of how wrong or right ye are.

Go back and read the original post.

Transform

evo2000 wrote: »

You re only looking for a reason to disagree with me so you can get a pat on the back from the rest of the groupies, theres like a set grp of ye that just go around backin each other up regardless of how wrong or right ye are.

Go back and read the original post.

Read the original post and it doesn't change my suggestions.

I've written many times on what's wrong about CrossFit in general so I don't need a pat on here back from anyone, cheers

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

Read the original post and it doesn't change my suggestions.

I've written many times on what's wrong about CrossFit in general so I don't need a pat on here back from anyone, cheers

Clearly your suggestions are wrong and with all due respect you can shove em cheers

Transform

evo2000 wrote: »

Clearly your suggestions are wrong and with all due respect you can shove em cheers

Lmfao

You can shove em, lovely behaviour.

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

Lmfao

You can shove em, lovely behaviour.

Did you expect any other response to your last reply ? infairness lol if you re gonna completely dismiss my points then i will return the favor!

Transform

evo2000 wrote: »

Did you expect any other response to your last reply ? infairness lol if you re gonna completely dismiss my points then i will return the favor!

A point I shall make again-

If you sat face to face with me or many many other people that can program for CrossFit or non CrossFit then you would agree with most and might actually learn a few things

evo2000

Transform wrote: »

A point I shall make again-

If you sat face to face with me or many many other people that can program for CrossFit or non CrossFit then you would agree with most and might actually learn a few things

Possibly could, one can always learn new things! if you read my original post you will see i was contemplating giving it a go, but the sort of people here,and the sheer ignorants to other peoples points that differ from there own, doesnt exactly help crossfits reputation, or inspire anyone to join...

If one was to judge by this thread the crossfit community would come across as a bunch of elitist pompous pricks.

Stench Blossoms

evo2000 wrote: »

Possibly could, one can always learn new things! if you read my original post you will see i was contemplating giving it a go, but the sort of people here,and the sheer ignorants to other peoples points that differ from there own, doesnt exactly help crossfits reputation, or inspire anyone to join...

If one was to judge by this thread the crossfit community would come across as a bunch of elitist pompous pricks.

I think I can safely say that no CrossFit gym would want you either.

evo2000

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I think I can safely say that no CrossFit gym would want you either.

Thank you for you re input much appreciated.

Stench Blossoms

evo2000 wrote: »

Thank you for you re input much appreciated.

You are most welcome.