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Technology (too far)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭wally79


    Still illegal.

    Can you explain that?

    Is it that a device has the functionality to provide the slope it's illegal whether turned off or not?

    If so how does that affect phone apps where the device can provide you with a lot more information?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    wally79 wrote: »
    Can you explain that?

    Is it that a device has the functionality to provide the slope it's illegal whether turned off or not?

    If so how does that affect phone apps where the device can provide you with a lot more information?

    Phones are not legal

    http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2014/January/Revision-to-Rules-Regarding-Distance-Measuring-Devices.aspx

    But I guess the phone thing will eventually be let go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭wally79


    Phones are not legal

    http://www.randa.org/en/RandA/News/News/2014/January/Revision-to-Rules-Regarding-Distance-Measuring-Devices.aspx


    But I guess the phone thing will eventually be let

    go.

    From the flowchart I read that phones are legal as long as they don't have anemometer thermometer or club recommendation ability but if they have a spirit level or camera that could be used in a way to aid players it is ok as long as not used.

    So it's ok to have some features if turned off but not others.

    Seems contradictory. Just ban them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    wally79 wrote: »
    From the flowchart I read that phones are legal as long as they don't have anemometer thermometer or club recommendation ability but if they have a spirit level or camera that could be used in a way to aid players it is ok as long as not used.

    So it's ok to have some features if turned off but not others.

    Seems contradictory. Just ban them

    Yes but it says "if referenced" - it is impossible to turn off all features on a phone that would help - well is possible but.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭wally79


    Yes but it says "if referenced" - it is impossible to turn off all features on a phone that would help - well is possible but.

    Be tough to prove if someone was using these things on their phone so surely better to avoid the temptation.

    At least with GPS or laser you can have a list of conforming models like the list of drivers the PGA uses


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭wally79


    Yes but it says "if referenced" - it is impossible to turn off all features on a phone that would help - well is possible but.

    Be tough to prove if someone was using these things on their phone so surely better to avoid the temptation.

    At least with GPS or laser you can have a list of conforming models like the list of drivers the PGA uses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭newport2


    There is a load of golfers - that have all the gear and watch too much tv - they think that an open singles is the Nordea Masters.

    All this technology should speed up play in theory, slow play is just the way people go about playing the game.

    +1

    Golfers are the cause of slow play, not equipment.

    I could use a laser multiple times per shot if I wanted to without slowing anything up, simply by doing it while others are taking their shots. It's the likes of people who wait until it's their shot to start a 2 minute routine before hitting the ball that are the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    How much are they.

    What other feature Buster.

    Seems a bit daft to bring out products illegal ? Well obviously a market. Wonder if they are distance members too - (jaysus I hope people know when I'm joking :D)

    There is no way that tempo feature is legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,133 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    There is no way that tempo feature is legal.

    But it is after shot.

    why. What advantage is it.

    Maybe the thread title is becoming more apt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    But it is after shot.

    why. What advantage is it.

    Maybe the thread title is becoming more apt.

    It's giving you direct feedback about your swing. I'm assuming that equivalent to asking for advise?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Ally McIntosh


    newport2 wrote: »
    +1

    Golfers are the cause of slow play, not equipment.

    I could use a laser multiple times per shot if I wanted to without slowing anything up, simply by doing it while others are taking their shots. It's the likes of people who wait until it's their shot to start a 2 minute routine before hitting the ball that are the problem.

    Well yes. And no.

    It's all part of the removal of the intuitive nature of playing golf.

    Certain technological advances have most certainly slowed up the game, namely the increased distance the ball travels - which has resulted in longer, bigger and more expensive golf courses.

    The other main reason why the game has slowed up is commercialism and the celebrity culture generated around professional golf. Namely that every golfer holds professionals up as the pinnacle of the sport and look to replicate their mannerisms and habits.

    This is indirectly borne out in the need for 18 handicappers to know the distance to a pin to the nearest yard (or even 10 yards). Which has seen the rise of distance measuring devices, a by-product of a slower game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭newport2


    Certain technological advances have most certainly slowed up the game, namely the increased distance the ball travels - which has resulted in longer, bigger and more expensive golf courses.

    For professionals, certainly. A big phase of "Tiger-proofing" was gone through.

    Have amateur tees that the weekly golfer plays off really got much longer though? Can't think of many courses that have been extended to make the regular tees longer. The back tees maybe, but most golfers don't play off these.
    The other main reason why the game has slowed up is commercialism and the celebrity culture generated around professional golf. Namely that every golfer holds professionals up as the pinnacle of the sport and look to replicate their mannerisms and habits.

    Every golfer? Simply not true.

    Even for a minority that do, my point still stands. It's the golfer that causes slow play by the way he chooses to play.
    This is indirectly borne out in the need for 18 handicappers to know the distance to a pin to the nearest yard (or even 10 yards). Which has seen the rise of distance measuring devices, a by-product of a slower game.

    And distance measuring devices, if used properly, will not slow down the game. If a golfer waits until it's his turn to hit and then starts measuring, then yes they will, just as anything he does will. But again, this is down to the golfer and how he chooses to play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    The slow play I observe is caused by not being ready to hit, dithering over club selection, leaving clubs in the wrong place, needless marking of every putt, poking around in hazards looking for lost balls and walking too slowly.

    Using distance aids contributes a minuscule amount of it and actually reduces dithering over which club to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Lets not turn this into a slow play debate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 150 ✭✭Ally McIntosh


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Lets not turn this into a slow play debate...

    My point being that technological advances have increased the cost of the game and time it takes to play it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,505 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    My point being that technological advances have increased the cost of the game and time it takes to play it.
    Point made, so now lets drop it please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭wally79


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Lets not turn this into a slow play debate...

    Sorry. My fault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Aesop


    nato-summit-2014-2-390x285.jpg

    Ah here FixdePitchmark is right this has gone too far. No way that GPS is competition legal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭alxmorgan


    Aesop wrote: »
    nato-summit-2014-2-390x285.jpg

    Ah here FixdePitchmark is right this has gone too far. No way that GPS is competition legal!

    Latest Rocketballz driver prototype ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    alxmorgan wrote: »
    Latest Rocketballz driver prototype ? :D

    Missed a trick there alx...TM Jetspeed should have been the call :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    That's the hole-in-one prize


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,138 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Missed a trick there alx...TM Jetspeed should have been the call :D

    Perfect for hitting those well guarded greens ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    If that's a jump jet there is going to be one hell of a GUR.


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