Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

Snake Plisken

Final episode review and breakdown from Pete Peppers

https://youtu.be/jDfTXG1d3eg

Sudden Valley

A tidy rather than great ending. I preferred the last season in BCS to the Breaking Bad's last season where it became totally unrealistic. The writers are very talented so I hope they leave the BB universe alone now, it has no longer any more storylines to tell.

the 12 th man

Great show,have to say Mike was my favourite character in both this and BB,my only gripe with BCS were the first series episodes based around Chuck's home hideout which I found boring but other than that BCS was/is brilliant.

It finished quite well but glad to see the back of it at this stage. A few episodes were a slog. The journey wasn't worth the decent pay off. Strange to say I'll think twice about watching another Vince Gilligan show again considering how much I love breaking bad. He does love a good pointless heist though.

munster87

Just catching up on episodes now. An appearance from Buzz Mccallister!

Ozvaldo

id have preferred if he got away with it and got the 7 year sentence

Shred

What a show, unmatched by any other currently running IMHO with incredible quality in every department from start to finish, I’m sad it’s all over now. It has been a brilliant companion piece to Breaking Bad (which still remains my favourite of the 2 shows) while carving out its own story and is a beautiful way to finish out the Breaking Bad story with Vince Gilligan saying he and Peter Gould have their own plans to do something else from here.

It’s all good man 😞

patrickc

when the cast said their piece at the end I had a tear in my eye, my wife was looking at me funny! it's the end though and bloody hell I'll miss it.

JoeA3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119479145#Comment_119479145

I do remember him from that show but I’ll always most associate him with “Beverly Hills Cop”, where he gave a memorable turn as the bad guy’s main henchman. Best part of 40 years ago now!

rodders999

He gets the greatest deal of all time - a mere 7 years - and throws it all away on hearing Kim may be the subject of a civil suit by Howard’s wife?

Was it confirmed Kim was actually going to be sued or was it just a possibility?

It’s not like Kim has much wealth anyway, she’d be happy with 3 square meals a day and volunteering at the free legal aid place so I’m not sure what sort of impact being found guilty in a civil case would even have on her.

With good behaviour he could have been out in even less time and come to her aid financially if need be.

Loved the episode (and the whole series) but just thought Jimmy’s reason for tearing up an incredible deal lacked logic.

J. Marston

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483345#Comment_119483345

Where can I watch this?

ixoy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483407#Comment_119483407

He was also doing it to finally take responsibility for his actions because Kim, when he challenged her on it, did exactly that. It wasn't just to save her but also to show her he could change - it's why he also confessed about Chuck, even though it had nothing to do with the case.

Snake Plisken

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483422#Comment_119483422

Here you go I was emotional watching it I love Jonathan ❤️

https://youtu.be/CDvsnYr_l2I

johnny_ultimate

I don’t think Jimmy’s big decision was motivated by protecting Kim, but more a big character decision to finally be honest, stop running and do the right thing. In the presence of maybe the only person who ever truly cared for him, he opted to finally stop lying and face the consequences of his actions (remember: the plea deal itself was based on a shameless lie).

Yes, he’ll spend his life in prison, but it was the only real option for him to find peace and, crucially, redeem himself in front of Kim. And it allowed them to finally make amends and share a genuine moment together again, even if it was in a high security prison :)

Snake Plisken

Interesting Rhea and Bob discussing fan theories back in July some were close (especially the second last theory)

https://youtu.be/cZ5H_cfYDHk

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Great ending to a great show

murpho999

Well that episode was completely different to what I expected especially with him being arrested so early.

I think I need time for everything to sink in but my initial reaction is that it was a perfect ending to a damn near perfect show.

Odenkirks’s performance in this was fantastic as he switched between 3 characters and killed off 2 and funds redemption by going back to he originally was and by helping his only true friend and love. Brilliant.

Seth Brundle

What was the significance of him using his call to ring Cinnabon and discuss the schedule and tell the girl to tell HQ to find a new manager? Were they trying to show how he was on his own and had nobody close to call (and therefore setting the context for his rehabilitation)?

Snake Plisken

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483548#Comment_119483548

I took it to mean it was the end of his Gene persona and as his last task as Gene before he killed him off he made sure the staff covered his work and made sure they contacted Head office for a new manager. He kind of slips into Saul mode then with him working the system he knows inside out and eventually he kills off Saul and we are back to James McGill

Say Your Number

A fine bittersweet ending.

Loved the impromptu chanting on the prison bus.

The Black Oil

The episode had a real driving force behind it. Nice personal touch from Mike at the start about the time machine, later on Charles had a copy of that Wells book. Marie's appearance was a pleasant surprise too and Betsy Brandt really brought it home. 1 vs 7 in that scene as Oakley didn't say a peep. Typical form from Walter White with his demeaning comment. All aboard Wayfarer Air, hello BB. Nice little detail of the framing of shot of the exit sign in the courtroom, not that Saul was going to walk, but it certainly tied into him upending proceedings and all that. I was wondering how much he'd throw the judge's mindset. Happy to see Kim come back to the law, sealed by a cigarette.

I'm not into this constant comparing of BB vs BCS as I don't see the point, the finale aside. For me, we once again got to see Gilligan and Gould's brains at work and I feel very lucky in that regard, and with the cast too. Such a well-oiled machine that consistently delivered and unafraid of delivering a few jolts. Now there's a big BCS hole in the TV landscape, and only speedy justice for you.

peteeeed

Just perfect , like breaking bad each season got better which is so rare and it really feels like they had the ending sorted from the start

would have loved if they just finished with them smoking and fade to credits .

Kirby

Jimmy was too smart to throw away a seven-year sentence like that. Life in prison isn't worth a fleeting moment of catharsis. He would know that. You can admit your mistakes and atone for them without throwing your life away.

It didn't sit well with me, to be honest. I'm also of the personal belief that non-violent crimes like the ones he was accused and guilty of shouldn't have sentences that long so that probably colors my opinion on it a little.

Seth Brundle

I'm also of the personal belief that non-violent crimes like the ones he was accused and guilty of shouldn't have sentences that long so that probably colors my opinion on it a little.

He was accused of involvement in multiple homicides including two federal agents

Royale with Cheese

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483881#Comment_119483881

Have to agree with this, it felt like they needed to end the show with a redemption arc so he throws away his unbelievable deal just to come clean and then spend the rest of his life in prison. I can't see how that trade would be worth it for anybody, Jimmy would be lying in his prison bed 10/20 years later regretting that decision.

RocketRaccoon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119483143#Comment_119483143

I'm convinced some people are just saying things like this for a reaction because nobody who watched breaking bad and then BCS can ever think twice about watching another Vince Gilligan show.

gormdubhgorm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119482206#Comment_119482206

Here is a full summary of BCS season1-6

https://youtu.be/f4lTX7qmNH4

Penn

I thought the reasons for Jimmy taking the full charges rather than the 7 years were pretty clear, and it's mostly tied to the flashbacks in the episode. Mike's time machine choice would have led him down a different path whereas Jimmy's choice only would have made him rich, which Mike admonishes him for. When talking to Walt his regret is about one of his earliest scams which led to him becoming Slippin' Jimmy, which Walt says "So you were always like this..." Then the Chuck flashback, it's shown Chuck is the one who had the book about The Time Machine (which likely led to Jimmy’s questions to Mike & Walt) and Chuck says it's not too late for Jimmy to change his path.

Jimmy confessed and took the full 85 years because getting it knocked down to 7 years is another Saul Goodman move. He challenged Kim in their phone call to confess to her role in Howard's death, and she did. She changed, and he didn't. He realised he needed to stop being Saul and be Jimmy. He couldn't do that if he was still pulling Saul Goodman moves.

His confession and redemption had to come at the cost of life behind bars. He can't say "Well, I'll do this one last move to get out of jail in 7 years, and then I'll redeem myself".

2smiggy

he was unhappy in his life in Nebraska cooking buns for a living. Now he is living his life in prison, also cooking buns, but with the respect of the prisoners, and Kim.

FrancieBrady

Just so happy to have been onboard this rollercoaster. The most satisfying thing I have ever watched.

Thank you team Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul.