Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122945014#Comment_122945014

Yes I can't really see Peter as a leader, no matter which Peter or how many Peters 😄

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122945009#Comment_122945009

No to recasting Tchalla's Black Panther under any circumstances. Would love a what if style switch where Killmonger (Michael B. Jordan) did become Black Panther. Michael B deserves it if he wants it. No one else.

Mitch Connor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122945334#Comment_122945334

yeah - they had killmonger as BP in WhatIf, so they have the precedent set.

Cotts72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122945334#Comment_122945334

I honestly don't care which iteration it is as long as its not Shuri. Some fan made a great trailer for a black panther prequel movie with Bashenga a few years back

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122945009#Comment_122945009

I really do think this is the best way to elevate the newer heroes while creating a story that will pull in people that may have lost interest.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122946814#Comment_122946814

I'd be totally fine with Lupita Nyong'o taking it on too, and would fit well enough within the established world too.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122947319#Comment_122947319

Well, I would have thought she would have been a great Black Panther in the sequel too. I thought the film was…. fine. Not nearly as enjoyable as the first one. The first one, for me, was one of the best MCU movies (Apart from the typical rushed end battles): An awesome soundtrack. A fantastic antagonist (Who happened to be right). fun action sequences (Apart from the end, as said above. That casino fight and chase is pure hi-action fun). I know the sequel of course HAD TO have a more somber note than the first given the loss of Boseman and had to deal with trauma. But I just never warmed to Letitia Wright as Black Panther. Thought she was always too slight whereas Lupita Nyong'o was just badass.

I also never warmed to the "What If" series. I LOVE alternative timelines in Sci-Fi if they are planned/described well. If they make sense: This little thing didn't happen so the universe went off in that tangent. But I saw no logic in any of the "What If" stories. Much like Deadpool and Boimler, I am done with the Multiverse unless it's done interestingly.

Needless to say, this does NOT include Spiderverse

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122966247#Comment_122966247

Yeah the thing about 'What If' for me was always that the premise was "What if this particular thing happened…" and the knock-on effects of that would have been interesting, but really they change so many unrelated points of history or character motivations that it's far less about "What If…" and more "Here's a fun little aside…" Some episodes have been fine, but a lot of it is just fluff and more based on what actors they can get.

As for Black Panther, Shuri becoming BP made sense because that's what has happened in the comics, but the film version of the characters just didn't warrant it. Letitia Wright is a decent actress but not one I'd base the BP franchise around, and while obviously her strength and abilities come from the herb, I really think they got it the wrong way around. She should have become Queen of Wakanda, with M'Baku becoming Black Panther as essentially her enforcer. Hopefully after Secret Wars and the likely combining/ending of the Multiverse stuff, we get a new version of Black Panther; either M'Baku, and different good version of Killmonger, or just a new actor playing T'Challa from a different multiverse reality.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122966365#Comment_122966365

Regarding Letitia Wright/Black Panther. Agreed. Nothing personal. Fine actor and played her character's loss very well. But just purely physically, she seemed too slight. I never read the comics so I suppose her being Black Panther is probably in-line alright. But, with so many comics and variants out there, I assume many of the main characters have been versions of BP over the years. Like every other comic. I mean, how many people have become Batman over the years? Even if only for an issue or two.

And yeah, alternative timelines have to make sense (IMHO of course). I mean, one of the most famous of course is Star Trek's City at The Edge of Forever:

Kirk saves Joan Collins. She leads a pacifist movement. This delays the US entry into WW2. Leading to Germany takeover of Europe. Rise in fascism etc. Leading, eventually to shift in space exploration goals and no Federation.

Not: Hey, Thor and Loki are best bros throwing a party with, I don't know, Korg and Howard The Duck.

So, if they do an alternative eeeeeeevil version of the Phase 1 & 2 Avengers they need to do more than just give them goatees.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122966953#Comment_122966953

I think one of the earliest things in What If which made me realise "Alright they're just f*cking around with this" was What If T'Challa became Star Lord, and they made it that T'Challa was such a good guy that Thanos just chilled out and was friends with the GOTG.

Xofpod

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122966953#Comment_122966953

Eyepatches too. Obvs.

Mikasonu

I'd watch anyway. It gets steadily better and by the time things shift, you'll be glad you know the characters a little better.

CastorTroy

Watching the new episodes of What If, being released daily.

First episode was

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What If we want people to focus on the characters we want them to be interested in now so we'll kill off the more popular ones at the start

Looking at episode titles and cast for upcoming episodes the season is also

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What If people wanted to see more about Eternals.

Cotts72

I enjoyed What if season 3 although it's a weaker series than the previous 2. Started off promising but was pretty average from there on in. One thing that sticks out for me is that marvel need to pull the trigger on Captain Carter, what a great character

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122998522#Comment_122998522

Atwell and Evans have been cast in Doomsday so I wouldn't be surprised to see a Captain double act.

Cotts72

I think it's confirmed she's only playing agent Carter

EoinMcLovin

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https://youtu.be/7xALolZzhSM?si=aALrnoAMiIjSKpdN

Cotts72

Perfect hype trailer, can't wait for this

ShagNastii

I used to devour with passion the MCU but tapped out totally after phase three. Haven't bothered with any of the TV stuff but am tempted to check out Daredevil and Punisher. Are they as good as people make out?

Brief_Lives

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123062921#Comment_123062921

1st season of Daredevil is some of the best TV I have ever seen.

EoinMcLovin

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https://youtu.be/5PSzFLV-EyQ?si=Z137j3-EHV1f8F8p

JP Liz V1

A bit of chatter on line of Ryan Gosling in talks to play Ghost Rider (Danny Ketch version), could just be fans thinking out loud to manifest, ironic his OH, Eva Mendes, was in Nic Cage's films

Cotts72

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123110875#Comment_123110875

I think i'd prefer a younger up and coming actor to play GR. Gosling wouldnt be a long term casting unless they introduce a Johnny Blaze/Danny Reyes as a new host down the line. Then again the hypocrite in me always favoured Keanu Reeves as the next GR 😂

The White Wolf

It looks like we're getting a Fantastic Four trailer tomorrow. I'm looking forward to seeing Galactus in his full glory but I hope they pull back on showing too much.

EoinMcLovin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123130635#Comment_123130635

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https://youtu.be/qTXJxEaSj8Y?si=31O3voVDgKJWJpU0

The White Wolf

It looks like a Captain America First Avenger type aesthetic just with advanced technology. As a fan of that film, I've no problem.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123130703#Comment_123130703

EoinMcLovin

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https://youtu.be/AzMo-FgRp64?si=7je-a-1nsyZ9RNr7

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133319#Comment_123133319

Looks decent. Like the aesthetic of it. Proper looking Galactus too. Surprised we didn't see Silver Surfer but I guess that'll be in the next trailer.

Not overly sold on The Thing's voice, would have thought they'd modulate it a little just for effect, but I've always enjoyed the actor so can't complain about it either.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122438215#Comment_122438215

Is he though?

Midnight_EG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133399#Comment_123133399

Surfer was in the teaser along with a closeup

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133444#Comment_123133444

I'd still say so. With RDJ as Doctor Doom, they have no real reason to bring back Kang, and I'd say after Secret Wars, they're more likely to step away from the Multiverse and keep things to one universe (which will be bolstered by the X-Men and Fantastic 4 which the Multiverse is helping to fold in to the main MCU).

Obviously I could still be wrong given Kang's ties to the Fantastic 4, so they may find a way to bring some version of Kang back. But at this stage, they just don't need Kang.

Brief_Lives

Good trailer - loved the retro 60's look

cgi mustn't be ready to see any stretchyness, but Johnny looked class.

Thing looked comic accurate too.

who's the old guy (is that Malkovich)?

And Galactus…… sweet…

The movie is called Fantastic 4 - First steps.

first steps and going against Galactus are quite large first steps.

Brief_Lives

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133504#Comment_123133504

who? the old guy?

I think the surfer is a woman in this movie.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133723#Comment_123133723

Yeah Silver Surfer is played by Julia Garner. She definitely wasn't in that trailer unless there was a glimpse of her in a different teaser they showed at a Comic-con or Disney event.

And yeah, old guy was John Malkovich. Not sure what role he's playing in the movie.

Midnight_EG

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133723#Comment_123133723

https://youtu.be/-Tgly0Sperw?si=qDvk-W1AFBfnw4vp

This is the trailer I meant

Nevermind I've just come to find out it's fan made

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133996#Comment_123133996

Sorry but that's a completely fake trailer, using AI and clips from old F4 movies (there's a clear shot of The Thing from the Fant4stic movie rather than how he looks in the official trailers for this new one). It looks decent in some parts, but others are really poor.

johnny_ultimate

lmao at that fake trailer. The fake Pascal voiceover 😂

Increasingly certain that generative AI will never bring anything remotely resembling value to the world.

McFly85

It looks good - the aesthetic is a nice change and the thing/galactus look great from what we see(and I’ve no doubt that Ralph Ineson will knock it out of the park).

It’s also nice to have a film separate from the baggage of earth-616, no need to have questions about where what hero is or why these are the only ones to show up etc, it can just be its own thing.

Wonder if they’ll go down the route of having them fail and escape to another universe or if they’ll succeed and we’ll see them join up during one of the big crossover films. I suspect the latter and it’s probably better that way.

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123134064#Comment_123134064

At least it means that fake trailers nowadays are a bit more interesting, rather than just stitched together clips of the cast from completely unrelated films they were previously in.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123133510#Comment_123133510

It's weird, board sent me to that post from last year. I would have just jump to latest, but I quote as I had also just read the below

https://www.screengeek.net/2025/02/03/jonathan-majors-mcu-kevin-feige/
https://www.screengeek.net/2025/02/03/jonathan-majors-mcu-kevin-feige/

The White Wolf

I wasn't thrilled with that teaser. I get what they're doing by empathising the summer film for the family vibe but given the amount riding on this film, I would have taken a different approach.

There's still time to rectify it with later trailers, but they very much need to. My excitement dropped a little.

Avatar in the Post

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123134179#Comment_123134179

"Wonder if they’ll go down the route of having them fail and escape to another universe or if they’ll succeed and we’ll see them join up during one of the big crossover films. I suspect the latter and it’s probably better that way."

This doesn't look like it is set in "our" universe. So, they could heroically fail here (and escape). Also, the weakness of any such stand alone Marvel movie with someone like Galactus threatening the earth, where are all the other superheroes… on holidays? So, them failing in A universe and joining up with other supers in OUR universe seems plausible.

Mitch Connor

I think they will try to escape to stop Galactus - I think Galactus will be after THEM, and by escaping they spare their world.

kerplun k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123134064#Comment_123134064

That was my first thought. I couldn’t tell if it was a genuine trailer or one those fake super panavision trailers spun up by a really good AI model.

Brief_Lives

I put in a couple of decent captures in the Fantastic Four thread.

EoinMcLovin

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https://youtu.be/hUUszE29jS0?si=qEK4EP8XXH1CcsyX

CastorTroy

Looks fun.

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I assume the asterisk has to do with what Bucky said.

PTH2009

So is Fantastic Four set in a different universe to the rest of the past MCU movies set around the same time period ?

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123191210#Comment_123191210

looks that way, just another multiverse thread. I'm sure they cross over into the one we're familiar with before long.

Penn

Marvel reportedly shelving some TV shows they were working on (though never got to production); including Nova, Strange Academy, and Terror (who?).

https://www.gamesradar.com/entertainment/marvel-tv-shows/marvel-has-reportedly-shifted-priorities-and-paused-development-on-three-tv-shows-including-a-doctor-strange-series-with-wong/

Marvel has reportedly paused development on multiple shows, including a Doctor Strange series that would have seen Wong help train a new generation of magic users.

As per Deadline, Nova, Strange Academy, and Terror Inc. are being put on ice, though sources close to the publication were keen to point out they were 'never officially greenlit' and could be revived in future.

Good move tbh. I think everyone would be far more interested in some of the Netflix Defenders stuff being revived similar to Daredevil rather than a who's who of 'Who?'

Quality over quantity, please.