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welding- anti spatter spray

  • 08-08-2014 7:27pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭


    I saw that anti spatter spray for sale today in the local dealers.


    is it any good. does it keep the black spatters off paint where you welding near?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    its great stuff for keeping steel clean but i never checked it on paint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    f140 wrote: »
    I saw that anti spatter spray for sale today in the local dealers.


    is it any good. does it keep the black spatters off paint where you welding near?

    if its what im thinking of
    i use it when mig welding to keep splatters off cone head otherwise it builds up and can interfere with space around wire nozzle for argon gas flow to keep weld smooth and blemish free . otherwise it has to be removed using pliers from both nozzle and cone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 GenSi7


    Hi everyone,

    I'm the Production Manager at Cashels Engineering and we use a product called "Pre-Weld" from a company called "The Works". It's a vegetable-oil based product so there are no noticeable fumes from it unlike some other brands. It's certainly not the cheapest but over the years we've tried many different types and have been successfully using Pre-Weld for 5 years now. They also do a product called "Cleanweld" which is a bit cheaper and is also pretty good, the downside is the fumes which are not harmful (still vegetable oil based as opposed to solvent-based like others) but you will notice the smell.

    To my knowledge it's not suitable for use on painted products (for repairs etc) as the chemical make-up of Pre-Weld wouldn't allow it to adhere to an already painted surface. I think most anti-spatters are the same but I'm open to correction.

    As for the welding torches, Pre-Weld won't keep a Mig-Welding torch clean long-term, for that you'll need a "Tip-Dip" product. There are hundreds available and your local co-op or hardware would have one or two brands.

    Hope this helps.

    Simon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    GenSi7 wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    I'm the Production Manager at Cashels Engineering and we use a product called "Pre-Weld" from a company called "The Works". It's a vegetable-oil based product so there are no noticeable fumes from it unlike some other brands. It's certainly not the cheapest but over the years we've tried many different types and have been successfully using Pre-Weld for 5 years now. They also do a product called "Cleanweld" which is a bit cheaper and is also pretty good, the downside is the fumes which are not harmful (still vegetable oil based as opposed to solvent-based like others) but you will notice the smell.

    To my knowledge it's not suitable for use on painted products (for repairs etc) as the chemical make-up of Pre-Weld wouldn't allow it to adhere to an already painted surface. I think most anti-spatters are the same but I'm open to correction.

    As for the welding torches, Pre-Weld won't keep a Mig-Welding torch clean long-term, for that you'll need a "Tip-Dip" product. There are hundreds available and your local co-op or hardware would have one or two brands.

    Hope this helps.

    Simon.
    thanks fro info,
    will order Tip Dip probably from Motor Factors or weld products supplier not local store as would probably be told there is no one looking for it, like time i asked for boots with steel toe cap on outside instead of inside


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    sandydan wrote: »
    thanks fro info,
    will order Tip Dip probably from Motor Factors or weld products supplier not local store as would probably be told there is no one looking for it, like time i asked for boots with steel toe cap on outside instead of inside

    Haha if id the steel toe on the outside id probably have managed to weld it to something by now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Zr105 wrote: »
    Haha if id the steel toe on the outside id probably have managed to weld it to something by now!

    ya well if your typing is anything to judge you by id say you wouldn't :), even if you did you would figure you had done something:D:D. did you ever wear a pair they are real comfortable, imo i had several pairs ,i think they are the most comfortable boots ive worn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    sandydan wrote: »
    ya well if your typing is anything to judge you by id say you wouldn't :), even if you did you would figure you had done something:D:D. did you ever wear a pair they are real comfortable, imo i had several pairs ,i think they are the most comfortable boots ive worn.

    I do have a woeful habit of using the boot to keep stuff propped together on the floor when I'm welding thats why id think id weld it to sumit haha! Have had burn marks on the boots before from putting down the torch and leaving the rod sitting ontop of the boot which is firmly wedged against steel.... Thankfully haven't done it with wellies on yet but have burnt holes in them with slag!

    id say they are more comfortable though alright! I do find the steel can cut into the toe abit at times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Zr105 wrote: »
    I do have a woeful habit of using the boot to keep stuff propped together on the floor when I'm welding thats why id think id weld it to sumit haha! Have had burn marks on the boots before from putting down the torch and leaving the rod sitting ontop of the boot which is firmly wedged against steel.... Thankfully haven't done it with wellies on yet but have burnt holes in them with slag!

    id say they are more comfortable though alright! I do find the steel can cut into the toe abit at times
    that's my problem too especially now that i have had both big toe nails removed about 5 times , hope they don't regrow again.
    the ones worn in places that Galvanize iron are the real deal for protecting foot there is averlap from top of boot to toe cap,cant tell correct name of it . one day a farmer:eek: dropped transport box on my boot just behind toe cap it hurt and explaining to him why i wanted him to restart tractor to lift transport box off my boot was almost like trying to tell a mule how to play a banjo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    sandydan wrote: »
    that's my problem too especially now that i have had both big toe nails removed about 5 times , hope they don't regrow again.
    the ones worn in places that Galvanize iron are the real deal for protecting foot there is averlap from top of boot to toe cap,cant tell correct name of it . one day a farmer:eek: dropped transport box on my boot just behind toe cap it hurt and explaining to him why i wanted him to restart tractor to lift transport box off my boot was almost like trying to tell a mule how to play a banjo

    Ouch.... I dont envy you on that one.... Have to be careful how i cut one toe nail as if done wrong it cuts in for a week... Its bloody sore....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Zr105 wrote: »
    Ouch.... I dont envy you on that one.... Have to be careful how i cut one toe nail as if done wrong it cuts in for a week... Its bloody sore....
    i learned the hard way if getting nail off rub plenty vaseline around toe for at least a week to soften skin and when they are injecting toe with anesthetic put as much weight as possible on heel it kills pain as well. toe nails are no asset to anyone imo. know real good doc in Cork if you want it done


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Zr105


    sandydan wrote: »
    i learned the hard way if getting nail off rub plenty vaseline around toe for at least a week to soften skin and when they are injecting toe with anesthetic put as much weight as possible on heel it kills pain as well. toe nails are no asset to anyone imo. know real good doc in Cork if you want it done

    No your alright thanks :D they can stay were they are, as i said above its only if i cut it wrong that it is sore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Zr105 wrote: »
    No your alright thanks :D they can stay were they are, as i said above its only if i cut it wrong that it is sore

    get a good chiropodist so. i picked up fungal infection in one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭sandydan


    Zr105 wrote: »
    I do have a woeful habit of using the boot to keep stuff propped together on the floor when I'm welding thats why id think id weld it to sumit haha! Have had burn marks on the boots before from putting down the torch and leaving the rod sitting ontop of the boot which is firmly wedged against steel.... Thankfully haven't done it with wellies on yet but have burnt holes in them with slag!

    id say they are more comfortable though alright! I do find the steel can cut into the toe abit at times
    met guy who had a lump of weld fall inside boots and instead of sticking hose in or putting foot in bucket of water to keep air out pulled off boot and chunk of foot as well so be careful


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