Meath GAA: Wind Farm Sponsorship

Deano7

What's your opinion lads?

RoyalCelt

Deano7 wrote: »

What's your opinion lads?

with the inconvenience those turbines provide they should be paying 100k a year at least not the 75k they're offering.

Either way I'm all for it and it's money Meath badly need to finally finish Dunganny so we can move into Pairc Tailteann.

Have you any new details on this whole thing?

Deano7

To sell your fellow GAA men out for €25 per week is shameful. 1 good fundraising night would get those funds in. Do you think Meath will have a county team when the county is so divided on the issue?

Boom__Boom

Maybe throw up some more information as I don't think this has been covered in the national media so like most I've no idea what the OP is on about?

Deano7

Anywhere the wind turbines are being put up there is major opposition due to obvious reasons. Voting yes does not support your fellow county clubs, it will just destroy the heart of Meath GAA which is the people.

ArmaniJeanss

A link for those (like me) who hadn't the foggiest what this was all about.
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sparks-fly-over-gaa-windfarm-cash-offer-30461856.html

Personally I think people who are opposed to the turbines should be happy with the money and not see it as an approval of the company in question. In much the same way as sticking Tayto on their jersey doesn't mean Meath are recommending everyone to eat crisps.

Dirty Dingus McGee

What is the issue with the wind farms?

The town I live in is surrounded by them there's one just behind my uncles house and it makes almost no noise.

bruschi

Deano7 wrote: »

Anywhere the wind turbines are being put up there is major opposition due to obvious reasons. Voting yes does not support your fellow county clubs, it will just destroy the heart of Meath GAA which is the people.

what are the obvious reasons? and why will it destroy Meath GAA? would it not give it a big cash boost? And how is the reported €75,000 per year €25 per week. And if it was that easy to fund raise that, then why isnt already being done?

keane2097

My default position would usually be that people complaining about wind turbines need to **** off.

Couldn't be any less shocked at the lack of actual issues raised by the North Meath Windfarm Information moaner in that article, and their Facebook page looks a close relation of what you'd see from some anti-vax crowd.

Hammer Archer

The only objection I'd have to wind farms would be if they were disrupting wildlife habitats, mostly birds of prey.
But I can't get my head around people complaining about noise. Now, I don't live anywhere near them, but I have stayed in places very close to them both in Ireland and in Germany and I never noticed any disruptive noise from them. I also think that, unlike pylons, they add to the scenery of an area.

I'd also like to know why accepting this money would "destroy the heart of Meath GAA".

ProudDUB

Hammer Archer wrote: »

But I can't get my head around people complaining about noise. Now, I don't live anywhere near them, but I have stayed in places very close to them both in Ireland and in Germany and I never noticed any disruptive noise from them. I also think that, unlike pylons, they add to the scenery of an area.

Really? I think they are fierce ugly looking. Do you ever drive down to Limerick? There is a gorgeous stretch of mountain scenery in Tipperary that is full of them. They are a terrible blight on the landscape imo, especially when viewed from a distance from the motorway. I'd be rightly pissed off if I owned a property that had gorgeous views out over the Golden Vale & some of those yokes were plonked on it. (Maybe Meath doesn't have nice enough scenery to be spoiled by them? :P ) I agree on the noise factor. I have a friend who lives near a set of them and you can't hear a thing from them.

Deano7

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

What is the issue with the wind farms?

The town I live in is surrounded by them there's one just behind my uncles house and it makes almost no noise.

What's his house worth if he tried to sell it?

Deano7

bruschi wrote: »

what are the obvious reasons? and why will it destroy Meath GAA? would it not give it a big cash boost? And how is the reported €75,000 per year €25 per week. And if it was that easy to fund raise that, then why isnt already being done?

Decrease in property values, people with autism have to move, no horses can be near them for miles. There is 46 turbines planned for Carlanstown, were not just talking about 1, its a large scale wind farm project here that will decrease everyone's property, who will pay for that?
If the 75k was divided among the 59 clubs to raise equally it would result in €25 per week, per club to raise.
Are we forgetting why the GAA was initially founded, to help the Irish Army get fit for the English war, well that was united Irishmen and the plan by this windfarm crowd is designed to divide and conquer. We need support from our fellow GAA men to reject this deal because its selling out North Meath for penny's.

Deano7

keane2097 wrote: »

My default position would usually be that people complaining about wind turbines need to **** off.

Couldn't be any less shocked at the lack of actual issues raised by the North Meath Windfarm Information moaner in that article, and their Facebook page looks a close relation of what you'd see from some anti-vax crowd.

I do agree that your man has lost the run of himself a bit

keane2097

Deano7 wrote: »

Decrease in property values, people with autism have to move, no horses can be near them for miles. There is 46 turbines planned for Carlanstown, were not just talking about 1, its a large scale wind farm project here that will decrease everyone's property, who will pay for that?
If the 75k was divided among the 59 clubs to raise equally it would result in €25 per week, per club to raise.
Are we forgetting why the GAA was initially founded, to help the Irish Army get fit for the English war, well that was united Irishmen and the plan by this windfarm crowd is designed to divide and conquer. We need support from our fellow GAA men to reject this deal because its selling out North Meath for penny's.

It's funny how autism always finds its way into these discussions.

This thread is better suited to the Conspiracy Theories forum than the GAA forum IMO.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Deano7 wrote: »

What's his house worth if he tried to sell it?

I don't know as he isn't trying to sell his house and if wind turbine's are not causing a huge amount of disruption then the house price shouldn't be affected.

bruschi

Deano7 wrote: »

Decrease in property values, people with autism have to move, no horses can be near them for miles. There is 46 turbines planned for Carlanstown, were not just talking about 1, its a large scale wind farm project here that will decrease everyone's property, who will pay for that?
If the 75k was divided among the 59 clubs to raise equally it would result in €25 per week, per club to raise.
Are we forgetting why the GAA was initially founded, to help the Irish Army get fit for the English war, well that was united Irishmen and the plan by this windfarm crowd is designed to divide and conquer. We need support from our fellow GAA men to reject this deal because its selling out North Meath for penny's.

it will decrease peoples property? why are they all, or you as it seems, planning on selling your house? I live in a house that is after losing its value. But I dont care because I'm not selling it, so decrease in value is a complete non entity of an argument. why would anyone pay you for a decrease in the value of your property when you arent leaving it? and I doubt there will be a mass clearout of the area as a result.

The case on Autism is completely unproven. Some try claim that the noise is what is the factor. Others say its the spinning blades causing light fractions. Either way, its completely unreliable, and instead of throwing it out there as some sort of fact, could you tell me how many autistic people it will affect?

As I said, if its that easy for clubs to hand over €1,300 per year to your county board, then why dont they just go ahead and do it now so?

your last point is utterly ridiculous too. trying to compare Ireland getting its independence to a wind farm in a small part of north Co Meath? :rolleyes:

Deano7

Well thankfully the GAA didn't sell out carlanstown as they decided not to accept the money and there will be no vote on Monday night all I can say lads is thanks for your support!!

Deano7

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

I don't know as he isn't trying to sell his house and if wind turbine's are not causing a huge amount of disruption then the house price shouldn't be affected.

Would you place the same value on a house that has a wind turbine beside it? what about sun flicker?

Deano7

bruschi wrote: »

it will decrease peoples property? why are they all, or you as it seems, planning on selling your house? I live in a house that is after losing its value. But I dont care because I'm not selling it, so decrease in value is a complete non entity of an argument. why would anyone pay you for a decrease in the value of your property when you arent leaving it? and I doubt there will be a mass clearout of the area as a result.

The case on Autism is completely unproven. Some try claim that the noise is what is the factor. Others say its the spinning blades causing light fractions. Either way, its completely unreliable, and instead of throwing it out there as some sort of fact, could you tell me how many autistic people it will affect?

As I said, if its that easy for clubs to hand over €1,300 per year to your county board, then why dont they just go ahead and do it now so?

your last point is utterly ridiculous too. trying to compare Ireland getting its independence to a wind farm in a small part of north Co Meath? :rolleyes:

A persons home is usually the largest asset most people own, for a wind farm to erode a persons wealth by 50% is disgusting. I note that you don't care about the value of your home however most people would be concerned for themselves and indeed their children or whoever may inherit the asset that the will be a victim of capitalist profiteering. A mass clear-out is not central to any debate regarding the devaluing of a persons property.

Your argument on Autism and Equines is a bit like the Photoshop images of children, with cows grazing beside enormous wind turbines.

My point about the GAA is that it signifies United Irish people, when I stand in Croke Park or Pairc Tailteann and watch a Meath match, I'm not supporting North Meath, I'm supporting county Meath therefore I would expect the same back and thankfully the Meath GAA have rejected the wind companies offer therefore we all will have to raise €1,300 each.

keane2097

Abandoning thread, best of luck lads.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Meath turn down €375,000 offer from wind farm company
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=222068

Santa Cruz

ProudDUB wrote: »

Really? I think they are fierce ugly looking. Do you ever drive down to Limerick? There is a gorgeous stretch of mountain scenery in Tipperary that is full of them. They are a terrible blight on the landscape imo, especially when viewed from a distance from the motorway. I'd be rightly pissed off if I owned a property that had gorgeous views out over the Golden Vale & some of those yokes were plonked on it. (Maybe Meath doesn't have nice enough scenery to be spoiled by them? :P ) I agree on the noise factor. I have a friend who lives near a set of them and you can't hear a thing from them.

One nuclear plant would do the job of all of them.

ProudDUB

Santa Cruz wrote: »

One nuclear plant would do the job of all of them.

Yeah, it probably would. But considering the crappy job we do delivering a steady supply of clean water to Irish houses, in pipes that aren't leaking by the bucketload, do you really trust our betters with the keys to the nuclear cookie jar? :eek::eek::eek:

RoyalCelt

Fair enough Meath GAA siding with the locals but I hate the way humans in general are so opposed to slight inconveniences when it comes to green energy. I'd reckon cars, factories etc pumping out fumes is a lot more hazardous than 50 wind turbines. We're destroying the planet as it is and people being selfish isn't helping the case. Unfortunately that's one downside to people and why we won't advance nearly as fast as we could potentially. Such is life.

Deano7

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Fair enough Meath GAA siding with the locals but I hate the way humans in general are so opposed to slight inconveniences when it comes to green energy. I'd reckon cars, factories etc pumping out fumes is a lot more hazardous than 50 wind turbines. We're destroying the planet as it is and people being selfish isn't helping the case. Unfortunately that's one downside to people and why we won't advance nearly as fast as we could potentially. Such is life.

I'm not opposed to them, I think they're great, I just want proper set back distances like is done in Europe. Wind farms work well out in the deseret or sea not on prime agricultural land where people live.

rpurfield

Deano7 wrote: »

I'm not opposed to them, I think they're great, I just want proper set back distances like is done in Europe. Wind farms work well out in the deseret or sea not on prime agricultural land where people live.

So once its not in your back yard its grand then?

I dont blame Meath county board doing away with the vote, I'd be fairly certain that all that wouldve happened would be the clubs well away from the turbines voting for them and the ones around them going against. €375,000 would go a long way to paying for some extra coaches or facilities or something though.

Deano7

rpurfield wrote: »

So once its not in your back yard its grand then?

I dont blame Meath county board doing away with the vote, I'd be fairly certain that all that wouldve happened would be the clubs well away from the turbines voting for them and the ones around them going against. €375,000 would go a long way to paying for some extra coaches or facilities or something though.

Please read where I suggested them to go!

rpurfield

Deano7 wrote: »

Please read where I suggested them to go!

I did read where you suggested and it was basically anywhere that wasnt near your house wasnt it!!

Deano7

Nope I think if u read it again I said desert or the sea where no one lives.

rpurfield

Deano7 wrote: »

Nope I think if u read it again I said desert or the sea where no one lives.

Which is also well away from you!! My point is were you up in arms when they were stuck up on hillsides in the west or south? Now dont get me wrong Id agree with you theyre best off out of the way at sea or that but youve been talking about house prices and that too so it smacks of the biggest concern is the inconvienence to you as you must live in the area, and not much else!

Tom Joad

This has moved a long way from a discussion with any relevance to the GAA. Thread Closed

However anyone that wants to discuss Sponsorship of Meath GAA or anything else relevant to Meath GAA feel free to do so on the Meath Thread but lets leave the rights and wrongs of Windfarm or other political stuff away from the GAA Forum.