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N5 - Westport to Turlough [under construction; 2022 completion]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭ DumbBrunette


    This is from the design report. You can get the chainage locations on the maps at n5w2t.com




  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭ DumbBrunette


    Drone video of the Castlebar bypass section from Jack Walsh drone photography:




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭ UsBus


    More chance of Mayo winning an all Ireland before this road gets completed. Maybe they are planning on getting through it in the last few months but progress appears incredibly slow.

    A lot of the bridge junctions around Castlebar have been ongoing for a couple of years with very little movement. Traffic lights on bridges with no work going on. Anyone suggest night shift work during the good summer months.? Sure no rush with it...

    Whether it's the contractor or other issues I don't see another project like this happening for a long time. The appetite for it will be well soured by this experience.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭ Cosmo Kramer


    The main scheme now seems like it is going to be held up for months because of delays to the N59 section and link which was only ever really an add on to the main DC scheme anyway.

    Someone needs to make a case for the focus to be put on the completion of the DC section from east of Castlebar to Knockranny so it can be wrapped up and opened this autumn - then go back and finish off the N59 section after that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Total Control


    Noob here. I'm wondering why is the existing/new N5 junction on the Westport side of Castlebar a roundabout instead of a GSJ? I figure here is a good place to ask for an answer. Thanks



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Open to correction here but in general for 2+2s roundabouts are provided at junctions where there’s a considerable amount of traffic leaving the mainline (to go to Castlebar instead of continuing on the N5 eastbound for example), equal priority is given between the mainline and the side road via a roundabout. Where a larger proportion of traffic is continuing along the mainline instead of exiting a compact GSJ is provided.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18 thomas385


    I took a spin that way today. The bottom picture has now been opened to traffic.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭ DumbBrunette


    Nice new pic of the Drumneen overbridge in Islandeady nearing completion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ pjordan


    As a cyclist , very disappointed to see the completion works ongoing on the N84 Ballinrobe crossover towards Aughadrina. Tons of topsoil being laid down on the vast verges over tons more of hardcore, with absolutely no provision for a footpath or a cycle land, or more significantly given the vast swathes of land CPO'd for a segregated pedestrian/cycle lane along where the topsoil is being placed. Very much sends out a message that this €220m project is totally focused on motor vehicle use with absolutely no consideration for other road users.



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Mother Trucker


    Use the old road.

    This is a dual carriageway.

    Its no place for cyclists or pedestrians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭ Cosmo Kramer


    I presume he means on the new bit of the N84 around the overbridge, not the new N5? Would have been helpful to include bike and foot links there, surprised if they haven't.



  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Mother Trucker


    Back on topic, It would be nice to see the N59 element of the scheme open to traffic at the same time as the N5 part.

    I won't hold my breath, though; it will probably be phased openings, especially considering the delays there's been, so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭ pjordan


    Grand address the issue so. I was talking about the N84 approach and overbridge, not the N5 itself. However, in this day an age of supposedly sustainable transport infrastructure, when €220m is being spent on major road projects, it would only seem logical that all such projects incorporate a segregated cycle lane/pedestrian path into their design. Such a provision could be easily accomodated at minimal additional cost relative to what it cost to retrospectively engineer such facilities.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 551 ✭✭✭ KrisW1001


    it would only seem logical that all such projects incorporate a segregated cycle lane/pedestrian path into their design.

    This is exactly the case now, but N5 was planned before the requirement for segregated cycle and pedestrian space became part of the acceptance criteria for any new road design.

    N5 itself will have an alternative cycle and pedestrian route, even if that's just “use the old alignment” because the road-type being used is limited to motor-vehicles.

    Regarding N84, I haven't seen the new stretch, but if there's just topsoil going down over hardcore, it will be pretty quick and easy to install a cycle-lane there - cycleways are actually pretty cheap to build, given that they don't have to be engineerd to support 20-tonne vehicles, and if there's trunking material already in situ, most of that work is done already. I really have no idea why it's not there now, but one reason may be that the plan for the future N84 is not yet defined, and so the location of that cycleway may need to change once that has been decided; another may be that right now there's nowhere safe on either end of this link for cyclists to go, and providing a cycle-lane may draw cyclists toward using a road that is actually less safe than alternatives.



  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭ yew_tree


    It would be ridiculous if the N59 part holds up the entire dual carriageway from Turlough to Westport. Should be opened as soon as possible and if that means phased then go for it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 840 ✭✭✭ Green Peter


    A complete overkill of a project and an abuse of public funds, no problem with re alignment and major works to improve the old road. No one politician should have access to this amount of funding and influence. So much more could have been done with the total funding within the county.



  • Registered Users Posts: 500 ✭✭✭ yew_tree


    Agree 100%. The 2+2 dual carriageway is now standard build across the network for the traffic volumes on this road. The current one is a donkey track. Safety being the number one priority. There is literally no way the current alignment could have been upgraded with a hard shoulder each side due to the number of houses along the route and topography.


    On a side note it took me 40mins to travel between the town towns yesterday. I think idiot drivers breaking through red lights is an issue. Wait until the schools feature it will be carnage but when it’s all done it will be worth it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭ DumbBrunette


    The Islandeady overbridge is due to open next Friday. The lengthy delay appears to be because they were waiting for a section of crash barrier to be installed.




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭ spacetweek


    Description in the Insta post not quite right. Should say Westport-Castlebar. The scheme was truncated from Turlough back to Castlebar upon construction start.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,865 ✭✭✭ irishgeo


    Its still technically starting in Turlough just not at the far end of turlough as originally planned for.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,152 ✭✭✭ prunudo


    Off topic to the thread but still relating to Westport. Did they ever look into providing a southern ring for the town to link the r335-n59-r330-n5 as part of the project? Would have thought a lot of tourist through traffic could be eliminated from the town with a southern route.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,152 ✭✭✭ prunudo


    Looks good, seems shortsighted not to have included this in the current project



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