€1809 road tax

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

If I decided to pay the maximum road tax I think it would make sense to go for the biggest engine possible. Something like a 6.3 litre AMG lump.

May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

Ardennes1944

Yes...you're right.

lillen

What do you want us to discuss?

If you are bothered by the costs of the road tax, you will probably be bothered of the fuel consumption from a 6.3l engine as well. It will be expensive.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

I was just airing my personal view. I don't think I would consider paying the top rate, but if I did I'd go all out.

There probably isn't a lot to discuss, apologies.

porsche959

Bentley Continental R. 6.75 litres. 15 mpg.

stephenmarr

Don't forget about servicing costs as well as running costs.
I recently purchased an E60 530i so tax is €1490
A little easier to swallow running costs are average hitting 36mpg avg I've a light foot.
And if I need to there is 260bhp under the bonnet which is more than enough for Irish roads.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

In point of principle I would never pay the top rate of tax on less than a 3.5 engine.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

That's a lot of dosh for tax. What car OP?

Voodoomelon

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

In point of principle I would never pay the top rate of tax on less than a 3.5 engine.

I agree, I struggled even with my 4.0l to justify it, but couldn't find a 750 with the spec I wanted. I'll live. :P

RyanMGF

The thing is... if the tax wasn't so expensive the big engined stuff wouldn't be so cheap. You can't have it both ways of being able to buy big monsters for peanuts and tax them for feck all too.

When my XJS V12 is finished it'll be getting 3 months tax. Paying 500 odd quid to be able to enjoy a great car for 12 weeks is just something you have to justify if you're a petrolhead.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

RyanMGF wrote: »

The thing is... if the tax wasn't so expensive the big engined stuff wouldn't be so cheap. You can't have it both ways of being able to buy big monsters for peanuts and tax them for feck all too.

When my XJS V12 is finished it'll be getting 3 months tax. Paying 500 odd quid to be able to enjoy a great car for 12 weeks is just something you have to justify if you're a petrolhead.

I know that, but my issue is with taxing a 3.2 at the same rate as the 5.3/6.0 v12 in your xjs for instance.

I've paid the 1500 rate (2.9-3.0) on a couple of cars without an issue as they were worth it (535d and 300zx)

Im currently looking at buying a 3.6 Daimler xj40, which IMO is the smallest engine size I would pay the top tax for.

dgt

That's not the maximum private tax.... There's a local 10 reg Navara wearing a €2350 tax disc

Seweryn

dgt wrote: »

That's not the maximum private tax.... There's a local 10 reg Navara wearing a €2350 tax disc

Jeezzz... Fair play to yer man for keeping our social service workers employed.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

dgt wrote: »

That's not the maximum private tax.... There's a local 10 reg Navara wearing a €2350 tax disc

Jaysus what an idiot, commercial tax loike.

djimi

dgt wrote: »

That's not the maximum private tax.... There's a local 10 reg Navara wearing a €2350 tax disc

Definitely a case for buying pre-2008...

Who in their right mind would pay that for motor tax?

wexie

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly wrote: »

If I decided to pay the maximum road tax I think it would make sense to go for the biggest engine possible. Something like a 6.3 litre AMG lump.

May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Chevrolet/Camaro/SS...-8-/50914012095475270/advert?channel=CARS

8 litre V8.....

56 euro roadtax

Would pay for itself after about 30 odd years and have increased in value a bit as well.....makes sense

(http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lincoln/Continental/MARK-IV-/36813784840404330/advert?channel=CARS little more sensible option)

dgt

Seweryn wrote: »

Jeezzz... Fair play to yer man for keeping our social service workers employed.

Normally seen outside the Newgrange, I must get a pic of it the next time I see it

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Jaysus what an idiot, commercial tax loike.

I thought that myself, only they mustn't be able to get it due to it being a crewcab....

djimi wrote: »

Definitely a case for buying pre-2008...

Who in their right mind would pay that for motor tax?

I'd expect to see it on something like a supercar/big petrol engined saloon etc not on a highly exotic Navara! :pac:

RyanMGF

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I know that, but my issue is with taxing a 3.2 at the same rate as the 5.3/6.0 v12 in your xjs for instance.

I've paid the 1500 rate (2.9-3.0) on a couple of cars without an issue as they were worth it (535d and 300zx)

Im currently looking at buying a 3.6 Daimler xj40, which IMO is the smallest engine size I would pay the top tax for.

I agree with you. It just depends on the car really. Hyundai Grandeur at top tax band = bleh, 350z = yay!

Love XJ40s btw. My dad had a 1988 3.6 in BRG when I was a kid. Is the one you're looking at that particularly low mileage one on DD?

dgt wrote: »

That's not the maximum private tax.... There's a local 10 reg Navara wearing a €2350 tax disc

Shocking stuff. The older model Kia Sportage 2.0 petrols are €1200 PA to tax on the CO2 system

Cleveland Hot Pocket

RyanMGF wrote: »

I agree with you. It just depends on the car really. Hyundai Grandeur at top tax band = bleh, 350z = yay!

Love XJ40s btw. My dad had a 1988 3.6 in BRG when I was a kid. Is the one you're looking at that particularly low mileage one on DD?



Shocking stuff. The older model Kia Sportage 2.0 petrols are €1200 PA to tax on the CO2 system

Yes it's that one.
Won the bidding last time on ebay but was a chunk under the reserve.
I see the auction just finished again at £900 this time.

It's a nice car, seen it at a few shows etc, but €1500 really would be the most I'd spend at this point on it. Still got 4 years of top tax rate left.

dgt wrote: »

Normally seen outside the Newgrange, I must get a pic of it the next time I see it



I thought that myself, only they mustn't be able to get it due to it being a crewcab....



I'd expect to see it on something like a supercar/big petrol engined saloon etc not on a highly exotic Navara! :pac:

And my GMC is a.....:p

DAZP93

System is a bit of a Joke..
Take this ordinary mid engined Merc..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e200-1-8-sport-au/6916278

€636 to tax a 1.8 pre 2008

€1200 post 2008, old fashioned type Merc engine.

Imaging buying one in 2008 from your local Merc dealer and later discovering that your paying €1200 to tax a 1.8

Bigus

DAZP93 wrote: »

System is a bit of a Joke..
Take this ordinary mid engined Merc..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-e-class-e200-1-8-sport-au/6916278

€636 to tax a 1.8 pre 2008

€1200 post 2008, old fashioned type Merc engine.

Imaging buying one in 2008 from your local Merc dealer and later discovering that your paying €1200 to tax a 1.8

There's a 2009 1.6 vectra petrol falls into 900 euro rate too , :eek:

da_hambo

Ireland must have the weirdest and most expensive tax system? Has to be the most expensive country in the world to own and drive a car. Considering my first car in 2000 was 1500 pound fiat with 2500pound insurance!

Hal1

Well drive on cause they will have us driving small, dieseal eco hybrid boxes soon enough.

Gosub

I had a Chevy Roadtrek a few years ago. It was a V8 6.3 diesel. Wasn't too bad on juice and had a good pull about it.

Yakuza

A mate of mine has an 02 335i (probably worth a few grand) and his boss has an 04 Bentley (still worth well into 6 figures I'd guess) and they pay the same road tax. Ouch! A usage or value tax might be more equitable but that's never going to happen.

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Yakuza wrote: »

A mate of mine has an 02 335i (probably worth a few grand) and his boss has an 04 Bentley (still worth well into 6 figures I'd guess) and they pay the same road tax. Ouch! A usage or value tax might be more equitable but that's never going to happen.

Such a car does not exist sir! e46 only went up to 330i, then the m3 was a 3.2 straight 6.
E90 not out until 2006 afaik so that couldnt have been it either.

Agreed on your point re taxation ridiculous though

Yakuza

My bad, 'tis a 330i indeed. Another mate (who used to work with us as well) had an e39 535i, I was conflating the two. I was the poor relation with a 320i. I miss my Beemer (though not the tax bill!)

Cleveland Hot Pocket

Yakuza wrote: »

My bad, 'tis a 330i indeed. Another mate (who used to work with us as well) had an e39 535i, I was conflating the two. I was the poor relation with a 320i. I miss my Beemer (though not the tax bill!)

I feel that pain, sold on my e60 535d a few months back - missing it ever since lol

Seweryn

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I feel that pain, sold on my e60 535d a few months back - missing it ever since lol

I used to drive a 523iA. Sold it for the same reason. Great car. So it was.

bigroad

I sold my e39 for the same reason.Every three months it was becoming more difficult to gather the tax money .In the end i couldnt justify it and away it went ,Now in a tax busting 1.6.

johndaman66

Yakuza wrote: »

.... his boss has an 04 Bentley (still worth well into 6 figures I'd guess)

not to derail the thread but I'd be very surprised if a 04 Bentley was worth a 6 figure sum at this stage

quadrifoglio verde

Hal1 wrote: »

Well drive on cause they will have us driving small, dieseal eco hybrid boxes soon enough.

Nah co2 rates will significantly increase for anything but the cleanest of the clean over the next few years. Most of the cars on the road will soon be on the new system, considering the amount raised from the new system is a lot lower, they'll have to make it up somewhere

Cleveland Hot Pocket

johndaman66 wrote: »

not to derail the thread but I'd be very surprised if a 04 Bentley was worth a 6 figure sum at this stage

At a rough guess 18-30k depending on model.

Yakuza

Continental GT 2dr. Yep, from a quick squint on Carzone, it looks like 40-50k would snag one these days. Meh, I never let things like "accurate facts" get in the way of a good anti motor tax rant!