outlook for dairying post 2015

farmer10

Whats your thoughts on dairying post 2015. What will price average out at & what will the breakeven price be for most producers. Some new entrants borrowing huge money!

whelan2

farmer10 wrote: »

Whats your thoughts on dairying post 2015. What will price average out at & what will the breakeven price be for most producers. Some new entrants borrowing huge money!

let them work away, I am more interested whats happening inside my own gate tbh

Greengrass1

farmer10 wrote: »

Whats your thoughts on dairying post 2015. What will price average out at & what will the breakeven price be for most producers. Some new entrants borrowing huge money!

Let them work away. Hope it works out for everyone and it should if they keep there eye on the ball

mahoney_j

whelan2 wrote: »

let them work away, I am more interested whats happening inside my own gate tbh

Agree,every farm is different and will have different profit margins .couldnt care less what it costs anyone else to produce a litre of milk.would hate to see anyone going under or in financial trouble though

micraX

It'll be grand.

mf240

Horse it into them and hope for the best.!

frazzledhome

Why will post 15 be any different. Anyone would think we're big players on the international stage. Delighted to see guys coming to dairy and so many considering it.

All the very best, just watch borrowings. Bad debt will finish you quicker than milk price every time

exercise is the antidote

Jessus some change from a few months ago!! Someone mention 2015 and everyone was going under!

stretch film

exercise is the antidote wrote: »

Jessus some change from a few months ago!! Someone mention 2015 and everyone was going under!

milk price has held better than expected, weather is good and the waiting is nearly over

mf240

stretch film wrote: »

milk price has held better than expected, weather is good and the waiting is nearly over

Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

exercise is the antidote

stretch film wrote: »

milk price has held better than expected, weather is good and the waiting is nearly over

Thank god for that

awaywithyou

if i got a euro for every 'dairying-post 2015' thread that has been started here in the last 12 months... i would be a rich man and milk price would be something id be lookin at in a shop in the bahamas....

visatorro

frazzledhome wrote: »

Why will post 15 be any different. Anyone would think we're big players on the international stage. Delighted to see guys coming to dairy and so many considering it.

All the very best, just watch borrowings. Bad debt will finish you quicker than milk price every time

Ireland is only a drop in the milk ocean, don't ever forget that. As several good lads have said here already keep control of your costs and run a good show. What could possibly go wrong?!

Sam Kade

visatorro wrote: »

Ireland is only a drop in the milk ocean, don't ever forget that. As several good lads have said here already keep control of your costs and run a good show. What could possibly go wrong?!

I heard on the radio last month that there is on average a farm a day taken over by the bank :eek:

Greengrass1

Sam Kade wrote: »

I heard on the radio last month that there is on average a farm a day taken over by the bank :eek:

In Ireland?

frazzledhome

Sam Kade wrote: »

I heard on the radio last month that there is on average a farm a day taken over by the bank :eek:

I'll worry about it when I get it from the bank

Seems like a very high number. Im sure that's NAMA/developer land in the main

rangler1

visatorro wrote: »

Ireland is only a drop in the milk ocean, don't ever forget that. As several good lads have said here already keep control of your costs and run a good show. What could possibly go wrong?!

Hope you're right. at least young drystock farmers might have an enterprise to move into to have a future.
A lot of cattle farmers have asked me about sheep in the last month here, even had a young fellow looking at the setup here on sat, and the implications of lambing ewe lambs.......it might be time to be getting out

Sam Kade

Greengrass1 wrote: »

In Ireland?

Yes

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'll worry about it when I get it from the bank

Seems like a very high number. Im sure that's NAMA/developer land in the main

No not development land. It was on the farm talk program on c103 radio they had a man from the bank on.

funny man

You would hear more in the farming press if this was the case. I know of a few locally in difficulty, one with no repayments made in just over two years and the bank are working with them. I also know a contractor that the bank sent in heavies to lift his machinery but they were blocked. I'd say it's scaremongering from the banks.

awaywithyou

Sam Kade wrote: »

Yes

No not development land. It was on the farm talk program on c103 radio they had a man from the bank on.

That's very high... Didn't think much repossession of farms went on these days.... Any details given bout the farms repossessed?

tomwaterford

rangler1 wrote: »

Hope you're right. at least young drystock farmers might have an enterprise to move into to have a future.
A lot of cattle farmers have asked me about sheep in the last month here, even had a young fellow looking at the setup here on sat, and the implications of lambing ewe lambs.......it might be time to be getting out

but a lot of cattle farmers wouldn't put the work in for the return on sheep...esp for first few years until they are set up properly???
not to mind those that hate sheep with a passion


there is one thing about sheep...it can go to oversupply and price collapse very quickly

Sam Kade

awaywithyou wrote: »

That's very high... Didn't think much repossession of farms went on these days.... Any details given bout the farms repossessed?

No details, they were discussing farm borrowing one farm a day sounds a bit exaggerated alright.

freedominacup

Sam Kade wrote: »

Yes

No not development land. It was on the farm talk program on c103 radio they had a man from the bank on.

There's a long road between appointing a receiver and selling a working farm.

Cattlepen

Don't know bout the repossessions lads but I know a lot of cattlemen that have got into sheep and got out within two and a half years. The reality of two lambing seasons can take its toll. Sheep are grand for a bit of cash flow but big numbers are hardship. The extra numbers don't carry the extra labour when you have reached tipping point !!
On the dairy side, down load a free app called 5m cattle. It gives an worldwide view of beef and dairy. Very realistic articles without the "pat on the back" encouragement of the journal