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Need to lose the belly

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    So I guess the OP's got the message now that he just has to stick with watching the food to get the best results. :D

    Strength and toning exercises around the midriff will help - but only in the shape. In that regard you might find that when you look at yourself after getting out of the shower you will be a little less pot-bellied and a little less love-handled around the middle, but so long as the fat persists the muffin top will still make an appearance when you put on your jeans. There's no way to eliminate that with weights or sit-ups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    Mellor wrote: »
    No you don't

    I do. Did you add it up from the list I posted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    I do. Did you add it up from the list I posted?
    You've posted your diet elsewhere. It doesn't look like a 4000 cals diet to me.
    Sure, how do you know how many calories are there? You don't count calories and you eat as much as you like.


    Edit:
    Bruno, we need to get you your own thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    Mellor wrote: »
    You've posted your diet elsewhere. It doesn't look like a 4000 cals diet to me.
    Sure, how do you know how many calories are there? You don't count calories and you eat as much as you like.


    Edit:
    Bruno, we need to get you your own thread

    I don't count. I added it up for you guys! According to myfitnesspal it was around 4000.

    What should it be called?

    Eat like fook and stay in shape forever.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Bruno, this is not all about you. Do not post in this thread again.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 625 ✭✭✭roadsmart


    Aaaaaaaaand back to the original question. I'm interested too, and in pretty much the same boat as the OP. I have the diet and a bit of jogging covered, but what excercises do I need to do to work on the stomach fat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    This question is asked over and over again without really getting and answer other than eat less and maybe that's the only answer but if the question was phrased as "if I want to strengthen my stomach and back muscles what are the best exercises to do?" Would the answers be different?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dissed doc


    I think basic exercise that do not need gym or equipment (maybe just a mat at home) can be e.g., 30 x crunches, 30x situps, 30x V-ups every second day, along with e.g., 30 x pushups, 30 x wide pushups and 30 x diamond pushups. After a couple of weeks, that is not hard and not time consuming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    This question is asked over and over again without really getting and answer other than eat less and maybe that's the only answer but if the question was phrased as "if I want to strengthen my stomach and back muscles what are the best exercises to do?" Would the answers be different?

    That's not the question though and strengthening your back or stomach muscles wont get rid of the flab. Planks, rollouts, bridges, good mornings and deadlifts would be good exercises but be careful, your core and lower back are designed for stabilisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    This question is asked over and over again without really getting and answer other than eat less and maybe that's the only answer but if the question was phrased as "if I want to strengthen my stomach and back muscles what are the best exercises to do?" Would the answers be different?

    Of course the answers would be different. It's a completely different question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    But would stronger stomach muscles not help?


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Hannah Quick Memory


    The thing about flab is that it'll sit on the muscles anyway ... so it's two different issues


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Cut out the wheat at least for a while if you can hack it ( it can be really tough for first 2 weeks ) and avoid hidden sugar in things like supermarket potato salad etc. Can you grab the fat in your hand or is your entire abdomen bloated?. You may have dysbiosis/candida issues also.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/1609614798


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭CapricornOne


    So much broscience in this thread. The only way to "lose the belly" is a calorie deficit. How you get there, be it by eating less or adding extra cardio, is up to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭CM24


    ''Eating less'' makes it sound very miserable though. You can actually eat more, in terms of volume. The foods just have to be less calorie dense.ie. Vegetables instead of pasta.

    I'd kind of agree with Bruno in that it's hard to go wrong when you just stick to eating healthy food, although it is possible. I remember when I was doing my PT course, the instructor was telling us about some tasty healthy foods we should be eating and he mentioned Dark Chocolate and Coconut Milk, amongst other things. So one of the lads in the class went off on his lunch break and bought a full Lindt dark chocolate bar and a full can of Coconut Milk and had them with his lunch. That's 1500 calories! He was actually trying to lose fat as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    dissed doc wrote: »
    Use one of the online programs like myfitnesspal to keep track honestly what you are eating. Skip lunch, you won't miss it. Have a good breakfast, e.g., a few pastries or fruit and at dinner have loads of veg and fish or meat - but skip the potatoes or pasta. You don't need energy from crabs in the evening time, but you do in the morning and over the daytime.

    If you stick to e.g., 2000kcal/day, you will start to drop a few kg every month. Throw in a few bike rides or jogging a few times a week or exercises (doesn't have to be in a gym or anything special).

    This is absolute bull****, if you want to lose weight. Why would you skip a meal and starve yourself. I eat about 3-5 meals a day and have been dropping weight since I started doing so. I train 3 times a week for 1 hour lifting weights and in the space of 5months have dropped 19lbs in bodyweight and certainly toned up.

    If you eat well and often then you will loose weight. You need to lift weights and have a good clean diet. Stay away from carbs unless after training (as this helps with recovery).

    Meal 1 (Breakfast 8:00): eggs and bacon/salmon
    Meal 2 (Snack 10:30): Nuts
    Meal 3 (Lunch 12:30): Chicken/Salmon/Steak/Tuna and salad
    Meal 4 (Snack 3:30): Tuna/nuts/peanut butter something that is high in good fats/protein
    Meal 5 (Dinner 6:30): Chicken/Fish/Steak/Lean Mince and lots of veg (especially green veg).

    Drink 3-5 Litres of water a day, some green tea and could take some fish oil tablets as well to help.

    This will work for you. I stick to something like this and have seen huge results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    deco72 wrote: »
    This is absolute bull****, if you want to lose weight. Why would you skip a meal and starve yourself. I eat about 3-5 meals a day and have been dropping weight since I started doing so. I train 3 times a week for 1 hour lifting weights and in the space of 5months have dropped 19lbs in bodyweight and certainly toned up.

    If you eat well and often then you will loose weight. You need to lift weights and have a good clean diet. Stay away from carbs unless after training (as this helps with recovery).

    Meal 1 (Breakfast 8:00): eggs and bacon/salmon
    Meal 2 (Snack 10:30): Nuts
    Meal 3 (Lunch 12:30): Chicken/Salmon/Steak/Tuna and salad
    Meal 4 (Snack 3:30): Tuna/nuts/peanut butter something that is high in good fats/protein
    Meal 5 (Dinner 6:30): Chicken/Fish/Steak/Lean Mince and lots of veg (especially green veg).

    Drink 3-5 Litres of water a day, some green tea and could take some fish oil tablets as well to help.

    This will work for you. I stick to something like this and have seen huge results.

    You don't need to eat often to lose weight, nor do you need to stay away from carbs unless it is after training (carb window is largely broscience and irrelevant to most people). Doing this might work for you, but it is by no means the only way to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    You don't need to eat often to lose weight, nor do you need to stay away from carbs unless it is after training (carb window is largely broscience and irrelevant to most people). Doing this might work for you, but it is by no means the only way to do it.

    I never once said that this is the only way to do it. Of course there are plenty of ways of losing weight. I am just giving an example that this will work and have seen it work for many others too.

    Most people just overindulge in carbs and sugars which leads to weight gain so by cutting these out you are bound to see changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    deco72 wrote: »
    I never once said that this is the only way to do it. Of course there are plenty of ways of losing weight. I am just giving an example that this will work and have seen it work for many others too.

    Most people just overindulge in carbs and sugars which leads to weight gain so by cutting these out you are bound to see changes.

    It will work for some people and not for others, you are claiming it will work for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 MJP2608


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Yes it's strange.

    Many posters here believe the only way to lose the fat / weight is through a calorie deficit.

    Probably because it's indisputable fact according to the laws of physics and biology.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭ford2600


    It will work for some people and not for others, you are claiming it will work for all.

    Two posts in a row I'm agreeing with you. Steady on!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭niamh.foley


    There no such "Diet" that works. you start to lose the weight in the short term but then boom within months its back on..

    The word "Diet" should be "Lifestyle" it's a life style in the way i eat and train the word i can't eat this is wrong, as i will make you fail..

    I can eat it but know what i don't want it... is more powerful..

    Stay away from Fat free products no such thing as Fat Free !! the amount of Sugar that replaced the fat will end up being stored in fat cells..

    I normaly have

    1 Cup of Coffee before 6am before my Run or Swim,

    when i get home at 8am i would have a Fruit Juice, Raw Beet root, 2 Apples, 1 Pear, 1 Lime,1 Lemon, 3 Carrots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Stay away from Fat free products no such thing as Fat Free !! the amount of Sugar that replaced the fat will end up being stored in fat cells..
    You know what else is fat free and fill of sugar
    Fruit Juice, Raw Beet root, 2 Apples, 1 Pear, 1 Lime,1 Lemon, 3 Carrots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭niamh.foley


    There is a big Difference between having a Fruit Jucie made from raw oragnic furits and having a Can of Coke or a sh*t load of white Bread..

    Plus the benefits of having a Fruit juice outweights the sugar that is in the fruit..

    Beet Root..
    Lowers Blood Pressure, anti-inflammatory, allows your body to move more Oxygen around that to name a few..

    Lime..
    helps Digstion, Skin Care, Constipation, lowers cholestrol and helps arthritis,

    if you really wanted to be Anal about it, every thing has sugar in it outside Water and your Leafy Greens. but its about getting the right kind of Sugar into you
    just like complex vs simple carbs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    There is a big Difference between having a Fruit Jucie made from raw oragnic furits and having a Can of Coke or a sh*t load of white Bread..

    Plus the benefits of having a Fruit juice outweights the sugar that is in the fruit..

    Beet Root..
    Lowers Blood Pressure, anti-inflammatory, allows your body to move more Oxygen around that to name a few..

    Lime..
    helps Digstion, Skin Care, Constipation, lowers cholestrol and helps arthritis,

    if you really wanted to be Anal about it, every thing has sugar in it outside Water and your Leafy Greens. but its about getting the right kind of Sugar into you
    just like complex vs simple carbs
    I never said it was the same as a coke. :confused:

    Of course there's other benefits. But it's a big stretch to say they universally outweigh the sugar. They don't imo.

    Routinely taking a significant portion of your energy needs with fruit juice is bad plan. I wouldn't be a fan of discarding fibre either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Vet Thrower


    Take this or leave it, but I would advise anyone trying to lose weight to weigh themselves very frequently - at least once a day if not every morning and night - using the same scales every time.

    If you do this and track the results for any length of time, it will be impossible to remain unaware of which eating habits you need to change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭niamh.foley


    My meal plan would normally be

    5.30 am Wake up
    Coffee or Raw Beet root with Ginger Juice.

    6am hit the Road for a 5 or 8 mile run or 6.30 hit the pool for a 2km + Swim

    8.00 am have a Fruit Jucie

    10.30 am Smoothie, cup of Blueberries, Strawberries, 1 banana and a tea spoon of Spirulina with 300 - 400 ml of Oragnic Milk.

    1pm 90g of Oragnic wholewheat Pasta with 100g of Chicken and baby spinach

    3.30 - 4 have a Yogurt

    5.30 - 7.30 Gym Classes or Bike Ride.

    8pm i would have Dinner that could be anything really. with half the plate full of greens.

    i feel no Bad effect from fruit juice or taken smoothies..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,299 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Take this or leave it, but I would advise anyone trying to lose weight to weigh themselves very frequently - at least once a day if not every morning and night - using the same scales every time.

    If you do this and track the results for any length of time, it will be impossible to remain unaware of which eating habits you need to change.

    Today I got up weighted myself went and had my breakfast weighted myself again and was .6kg heavier. Had a poo and weighted myself again and was .7kg lighter. Had a coffee and water weighted myself again was .4kg heavier. Had a piss and weighted myself again and was .3kgs lighter. Was going for a jog so weighted myself naked and was 1.3 kgs lighter. So take that or leave it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Take this or leave it, but I would advise anyone trying to lose weight to weigh themselves very frequently - at least once a day if not every morning and night - using the same scales every time.


    It makes absolutely no sense to weigh yourself more than once in a day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭niamh.foley


    It makes absolutely no sense to weigh yourself more than once in a day.


    True or even every day at that,,

    The only Time i weigh my self twice a day would before a Triathlon Race and after the race.


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