any goalies/free takers on here?lookin for dead ball kick tips

zzfh

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any tips guys?i cant seem to get a set routine,eg ill do the same set up,run up and every time will be a different result.

also how to improve power,kick more often,or weights and kick every other day?

Scrummage

Technique is most important, develop your own and stick to it every time. If your technique is wrong then, all the strenght/power in the world will be wasted. Be patient and don't rush the kick.

Clareman

As scrummage said, it's all about technique, get that right and the rest will come.

When I'm coaching free takers I normally advise the following

• The run up is about getting your support foot set, chose a run up to do this.
• Try to place your supporting foot's ankle in line with the centre of the ball
• Pick a sport on the ball to make contact with
• Kick through the ball
• Do this 50 times, this will give you an idea of the trajectory the ball will take
• Once you know the "curve" you put on the ball, start to aim
• Once you have your "aim" right start on power
• Power can get obtained by accelerating your kicking ball through the ball
• It's all about timing and being comfortable

zzfh

Clareman wrote: »

As scrummage said, it's all about technique, get that right and the rest will come.

When I'm coaching free takers I normally advise the following

• The run up is about getting your support foot set, chose a run up to do this.
• Try to place your supporting foot's ankle in line with the centre of the ball
• Pick a sport on the ball to make contact with
• Kick through the ball
• Do this 50 times, this will give you an idea of the trajectory the ball will take
• Once you know the "curve" you put on the ball, start to aim
• Once you have your "aim" right start on power
• Power can get obtained by accelerating your kicking ball through the ball
• It's all about timing and being comfortable

cool,there is a couple of things i think im doing wrong..

1.should i have a set run up??eg 4 steps back 2 sideways etc

i got 5 in a row with 3 backwards 1 sideways..but the next day i coulnt kick one with that run up..

2.i dont kick 'through' the ball..i try to 'dink' it..i have the power to get it over from about 47-48 m

if i try kick 'through' it i find i lose about 10m on the kick along with the height.

3.i dont really focus on where i place my plant foot.is it an that important of a factor or no?

Clareman

zzfh wrote: »

cool,there is a couple of things i think im doing wrong..

1.should i have a set run up??eg 4 steps back 2 sideways etc

i got 5 in a row with 3 backwards 1 sideways..but the next day i coulnt kick one with that run up..

The "Knight" moves is a rugby thing really in my opinion, it's a lot harder to kick a rugby ball accurately than it is a round ball, the more from the side you come at the ball the more of the in step you'll be using so the more curl you'll be putting on it. You'll find what you're comfortable with, stick with that.

2.i dont kick 'through' the ball..i try to 'dink' it..i have the power to get it over from about 47-48 m

If "dinking" works for you stick with it, in my opinion the "dink" will work fine when there's no pressure on or when you're fresh.

if i try kick 'through' it i find i lose about 10m on the kick along with the height.

This will come back, I assume you a almost "toe poking" the ball at the moment?

3.i dont really focus on where i place my plant foot.is it an that important of a factor or no?

You're kicking foot is swinging from your hip, if you are too close/far away from the ball you will have to compensate with you kicking foot, this will lead to errors. If you want to see an example of not focusing on a supporting foot check John Terry's miss in the penalty shoot out against Manchester United in the Champions League final, here's a person who is well used to kicking a ball but because he doesn't concentrate on the supporting foot he loses his footing and misses.

zzfh

yeah,well im always goin to be fairly fresh being in goals.

no not a toe poke,right on the meat of the foot, at the lace..

i need the mentality of 'easy,tap over,just dink it up and the wind will do the rest' works for power but 50% the accuracy is wack.

if i run up thinking ok i need to drive this,all that going through my head is 'uh oh,if you need to drive it,it means your far out,its gonna drop short' etc etc..

Clareman

A goalie's kick is a bit different, the ball is going to be tee'd up a bit higher.

Assuming you are right footed, go back in a straight line from the ball and take 1 "small" step to the left at the end. Run up to the ball so your left ankle is level with the centre of the ball and swing your right boot through the ball aiming to hit the ball with you laces. You should have a fairly wide stance on impact.

dundalkfc10

Clareman wrote: »

A goalie's kick is a bit different, the ball is going to be tee'd up a bit higher.

Assuming you are right footed, go back in a straight line from the ball and take 1 "small" step to the left at the end. Run up to the ball so your left ankle is level with the centre of the ball and swing your right boot through the ball aiming to hit the ball with you laces. You should have a fairly wide stance on impact.

Our Goalie does not use a Tee in goals, Im seeing this more and more now especially with all the short kicks, accuracy kick outs to wings etc..

zzfh

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Our Goalie does not use a Tee in goals, Im seeing this more and more now especially with all the short kicks, accuracy kick outs to wings etc..

have tried this,if i get a bad connection kicking off the ground its real bad,if i get a bad connection with a tee at least i get some sort of height/clearance.

also kicking from ground,i get a lot of ankle/knee problems if i connect an inch too low and hit the turf first.

slingerz

you could use a cone as the kicking tee and have it cut down to reduce some of the loft on it. im on about the softer plastic cones not the rounder caps by the way.

again its all about your technique we've a lad of about 10 stone that kicks off the ground from 50m and hes not at all powerful he just kicks it right.

plant your supporting foot in line with the ball and your kick along with your momentum will get you the result you desire

square ball

You need to find a routine that works for you to improve consistency. The idea behind the routine is that your body starts to do it on instinct and this gives you extra confidence. It helps to deal with nerves especially for important kicks.

I would ask a coach/fellow free-taker/goalkeeper to keep an eye on your technique to make sure you are doing the same thing everytime or to figure out which technique/routine works best.

I found cycling the best exercise for increasing leg power in relation to taking kick-outs/frees. I had an exercise bike at home and used to do a few km's everyday on the highest resistance. Leg weights would also help.

thelad95

Stick it on the floor. The margin for error is so much less. As other posters have said, develop a technique that you are happy with and that consistently works. Kicking off a tee can be very difficult to get right if you are a keeper but with practise you will get better.

zzfh

thanks for the tips lads,
last monday i tried stick to the old punt in a straight line (like i would with a kick out) hit about 80% conversion rate

then switched to the curl (charlie redmond style) kick had avout 40% conversion rate


wednesday..punt 30% conversion rate

curl..90% conversion rate

friday..curl 10% conversion rate
punt 80% conversion rate

see whats going on here?i try to stick with one but i end up missing a load so i switch it up and it usually comes good,next kicking day the same thing.
maybe i should persist with one even if i've kicked 1/10 or whatever?

square ball

Ya definitely stick to one. Might take a few months before they improve and you get the consistency.