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£6m strikers

  • 31-07-2014 4:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭


    Having a look at most peoples teams and there appears to be a lot which are including a £6m striker. I think a poll could be a good way of helping people make these decisions before the season start? Don't want to clog up the forum with unnecessary threads but we could do similar for £9m midfielders, £4m defenders etc... anyway, to kick this one off, below would be what I would consider the top five options at £6m:

    Danny Ings
    I currently have him in my team, but this could change. Don't know much about Championship players, but he seems to be their main man. 27 goals and 7 assists in 46 appearances last season. Only 22 years old and first season in the Premier League so he'll be raring to go. Was first choice for Burnley last year so would assume that will carry on. Only 4% ownership but I would guess a lot of this is down to the fact that their first game is Chelsea. With so many people willing to use their wildcards straight away, is it worth getting a player with the toughest GW1?

    Charlie Austin
    As I said above I don't pretend to know much about Championship players, but Austin appeared to be QPR's main man... before Remy failed his medical! At 6 foot 2 he's a large presence up front. 20 goals and 2 assists in 35 appearances last season, definitely worth considering.

    Shane Long
    A proven PL goalscorer, although he never seems to nail down a spot for the whole season. Has also never scored 10+ goals. I'm wary of both himself and Jelavic getting enough gametime to warrant having either, although the majority seem to be going with Long who has double the ownership.

    Nikica Jelavic
    Same as above -two of our £6m options play for the same team, and both are worthy of picking. Jelavic has also never scored over 10 goals in a season, but again has never really gotten the chance!

    Connor Wickham
    A fantastic option based on his play towards the end of last season. He almost single-handedly kept Sunderland in the PL with 5 goals and 2 assists in just 847 minutes! Had he kept this ratio of points to miutes up across the entire season (as unlikely as this is) he would have ended on 234 points...


    Also in the £5.5m and under brigade there are a few options, although for the purpose of the poll I won't include them. I think for the extra £0.5m there is a significant jump in standard:

    Bojan Krkcic - £5.5m
    Surprisingly he's leading the pack on £6m defenders and under, with 6.4% ownership currently. Didn't see much gametime in Milan so unsure what the hype is about. Stoke don't have much options up front so perhaps he will take up a lone striker role?

    Chamakh - £5.5m
    Hit or miss last season but should still be the main man for Palace. There's better options out there IMO

    Fletcher - £5.5m
    Could be a diamond in the rough, only 0.7% of ownership but a proven 10+ goal a season PL striker.

    David Nugent - £5.5m
    A bit of a veteran at 29, but with 20 goals and 11 assist in 45 appearances last season he's definitely worth considering

    Naismith - £5m
    Looked like a prospect until Everton signed Lukaku. Wouldn't consider him now.

    Best £6m striker? 127 votes

    Danny Ings – Burnley
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    Charlie Austin – QPR
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    Shane Long – Hull
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    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    24%
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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,335 ✭✭✭✭km79


    roryc wrote: »
    Having a look at most peoples teams and there appears to be a lot which are including a £6m striker. I think a poll could be a good way of helping people make these decisions before the season start? Don't want to clog up the forum with unnecessary threads but we could do similar for £9m midfielders, £4m defenders etc... anyway, to kick this one off, below would be what I would consider the top five options at £6m:

    Danny Ings
    I currently have him in my team, but this could change. Don't know much about Championship players, but he seems to be their main man. 27 goals and 7 assists in 46 appearances last season. Only 22 years old and first season in the Premier League so he'll be raring to go. Was first choice for Burnley last year so would assume that will carry on. Only 4% ownership but I would guess a lot of this is down to the fact that their first game is Chelsea. With so many people willing to use their wildcards straight away, is it worth getting a player with the toughest GW1?

    Charlie Austin
    As I said above I don't pretend to know much about Championship players, but Austin appeared to be QPR's main man... before Remy failed his medical! At 6 foot 2 he's a large presence up front. 20 goals and 2 assists in 35 appearances last season, definitely worth considering.

    Shane Long
    A proven PL goalscorer, although he never seems to nail down a spot for the whole season. Has also never scored 10+ goals. I'm wary of both himself and Jelavic getting enough gametime to warrant having either, although the majority seem to be going with Long who has double the ownership.

    Nikica Jelavic
    Same as above -two of our £6m options play for the same team, and both are worthy of picking. Jelavic has also never scored over 10 goals in a season, but again has never really gotten the chance!

    Connor Wickham
    A fantastic option based on his play towards the end of last season. He almost single-handedly kept Sunderland in the PL with 5 goals and 2 assists in just 847 minutes! Had he kept this ratio of points to miutes up across the entire season (as unlikely as this is) he would have ended on 234 points...


    Also in the £5.5m and under brigade there are a few options, although for the purpose of the poll I won't include them. I think for the extra £0.5m there is a significant jump in standard:

    Bojan Krkcic - £5.5m
    Surprisingly he's leading the pack on £6m defenders and under, with 6.4% ownership currently. Didn't see much gametime in Milan so unsure what the hype is about. Stoke don't have much options up front so perhaps he will take up a lone striker role?

    Chamakh - £5.5m
    Hit or miss last season but should still be the main man for Palace. There's better options out there IMO

    Fletcher - £5.5m
    Could be a diamond in the rough, only 0.7% of ownership but a proven 10+ goal a season PL striker.

    Ryle Nugent - £5.5m
    A bit of a veteran at 29, but with 20 goals and 11 assist in 45 appearances last season he's definitely worth considering

    Naismith - £5m
    Looked like a prospect until Everton signed Lukaku. Wouldn't consider him now.

    ryle Nugent :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    Ryle Nugent - £5.5m
    A bit of a veteran at 29, but with 20 goals and 11 assist in 45 appearances last season he's definitely worth considering

    Has Ryle ditched being RTE's director of sport then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    I'm going with Jelavic as I've said previously. If he could get near the form he had in his first half season for Everton, 9 goals in 13 games, he'll be gold dust.

    Hull's first five fixtures:

    16/08/2014 15:00 Queens Park Rangers v Hull City
    23/08/2014 15:00 Hull City v Stoke City
    30/08/2014 15:00 Aston Villa v Hull City
    13/09/2014 15:00 Hull City v West Ham United
    20/09/2014 15:00 Newcastle United v Hull City

    I expect to have played my wildcard by then and there is nothing overly difficult in those games.

    I also rate Hull as a solid team above the likes of Burnley and QPR. For me, its as much about the team as it is about the player and Hull have spent well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    FML - sounded right to me when I was writing it. I'm out of Ireland a few years... hes that twat from RTE yeah? Edited now anyway...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,305 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Prodston


    Shane Long – Hull
    I won't vote yet as I'll have a little think but I'm between Austin and Jelavic myself. Although if Fletcher stays fit and starts up front I think he's excellent value at 5.5.

    10, 12, 11 goals in the 3 seasons before last season where he was injured is impressive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭Dearg81


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Yea I voted Jelavic too. Hull have the best fixtures at the start of the season out of all the teams involved in this poll.

    I'd go for Long if you were rotating though as he scores most of his goals at home, Jelavic is more consistent away from home so Id pick him if you are planning on playing the striker every week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    FML - sounded right to me when I was writing it. I'm out of Ireland a few years... hes that twat from RTE yeah? Edited now anyway...

    Now RTE's Director of Sport. I remember him in the days of The Grip!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Ryle Nugent, fantastic :pac: Good work on the list.

    For me they're all very "meh".

    Ings and Austin have never kicked a ball at this level and their respective teams may not score a whole lot this year, Long is an awful finisher (usually one of the worst in the league of starting strikers each season statistically), Jelavic is an overrated lump, Wickham may not start or could even be sold if he doesn't sign a new deal soon, Fletcher loves a drink during the season and has suffered with injury a lot recently.

    Hull have the best starting fixtures, but over the course of the season I think Fletcher at £5.5m would be the best option of all of those listed if he was to start. He's usually good for 10-12 if he plays every week and I think he'd get the same again this year.

    At this stage however I honestly think it's better to go two top strikers and a 5 man midfield if that's the way people are going. Strikers in the £5.5m-£6.0m bracket usually end up with about 100 points, 120 if they have an exceptional season. You could get Sigurdsson instead of the £4.5m midfielder who will be first choice all year, take set pieces, and should outscore that sort of total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    dunno where the JellyFish love is comin' from. Last 3 seasons 11 goals in 62 games. avoid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Yeah he had one good part of a season in 11/12. Everton actually gave him a decent run out in 12/13 (2,400 minutes) and he only managed 7 goals, about 1 in every 4 games. What makes him more attractive at Hull?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    Yeah he had one good part of a season in 11/12. Everton actually gave him a decent run out in 12/13 (2,400 minutes) and he only managed 7 goals, about 1 in every 4 games. What makes him more attractive at Hull?

    I rate him as a finisher. He'll also be told to basically occupy the box for Hull and leave the donkey work for the likes of Long and Snodgrass.

    I'll agree with the above that none of the strikers exactly delight me but he's the best of a bad bunch IMO.

    manual_man wrote: »
    dunno where the JellyFish love is comin' from. Last 3 seasons 11 goals in 62 games. avoid!

    Where did you get those stats?

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikica_Jelavić;

    The stats I'm seeing are 20 goals in 75 league games over a three year period. 18 of those were also as a sub so it's 20 goals in 57 starts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    oh wait. he must have moved mid-season from Everton to Hull. i read it as 2 different seasons..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    manual_man wrote: »
    oh wait. he must have moved mid-season from Everton to Hull. i read it as 2 different seasons..

    Yes he moved in January this year. He also moved to Everton in January 12.

    http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=52137


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Lemlin wrote: »
    I rate him as a finisher. He'll also be told to basically occupy the box for Hull and leave the donkey work for the likes of Long and Snodgrass.

    I'll agree with the above that none of the strikers exactly delight me but he's the best of a bad bunch IMO.

    This for me, he was flying when he went to Everton and was being played as the out and out striker. He's a great finisher.

    He was then switch to the donkey role and possibly on the wing a lot of the time?

    I thought Long & Jelavic were showing signs of really clicking late last year. They seem to have a good understanding... Ie Shane, you run your socks off... But they actually looked like a really good pairing.

    Wouldn't be pinning my hopes on him but a good start and a bit of confidence and I think he's the best of them.
    It'd be hard to see a Hull striker getting near 20 goals... So at best, I would only expect a 1 in 3 strikerate, getting in double figures would be decent going for a struggling team that play 2 proper strikers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Great thread, very hard to keep track of what's going in in some of the others. Great to debate the merits and stats properly without getting lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Jelavic

    With a midfield of Ince-Livermore-Huddlestone-Snodgrass behind him, and the handy opening fixtures for Hull, he's a no brainer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Surprised at the lack of love for Wickham. I really rate him, is he not looking like nailing down a spot? Surely deserves one after last season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,747 ✭✭✭Ziegler1988


    Jelavic

    With a midfield of Ince-Livermore-Huddlestone-Snodgrass behind him, and the handy opening fixtures for Hull, he's a no brainer
    Europa League August 21 and 28 if they make it past Trencin next week though. Their squad isn't the biggest and I'm sure Bruce will want to make the group stage at least


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Europa League August 21 and 28 if they make it past Trencin next week though. Their squad isn't the biggest and I'm sure Bruce will want to make the group stage at least

    Reckon he'll rest Long and Jelavic and go with Aluko and Sagba in the early stages of the Europa League

    Is FryUp still with them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,274 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Reckon he'll rest Long and Jelavic and go with Aluko and Sagba in the early stages of the Europa League

    Is FryUp still with them?

    Long and Aloku started tonight with Jelly on for Long with 5 mins to go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    Surprised at the lack of love for Wickham. I really rate him, is he not looking like nailing down a spot? Surely deserves one after last season?

    How come the change of opinion may I ask? Last season I remember you berating people picking him in one of the DGWs stating you didn't expect much from him given his record iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    He pretty much single handedly kept them up. I was wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Wickham is a canny player IMO. I was advocating the club giving him a proper chance years ago and was glad when they finally did. Trust me, when you're watching an overweight Danny Graham shattered after 30 minutes and you have a kid banging in goals in the Championship, you'd prefer anything else. :pac:

    Attitude was said to be a problem with Wickham. Last one in to training and the first one home, Niall Quinn and numerous others have said. It appears he has knuckled down a bit now, but there's the issue of his contract. He holds all the aces really. One year left, teams will take a chance on him after his heroics last year, so Sunderland can either give him what he demands or lose him just as he seems to be coming good. Add to the fact that the club have very limited attacking options and appear to have forgotten that you can actually sign players in the transfer window and it doesn't look too clever for them.

    It will be interesting to see who gets the nod between he and Fletcher. I think either of those are the best options at that price. It's not bias, I just don't rate the other players in that range all that much and Fletcher has proven over the years that he'll score 10-12 when fit and Wickham can do the same if he starts IMO. Hopefully we'll get a clearer indication over the next few weeks anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    He pretty much single handedly kept them up. I was wrong.

    My worry about him is can he continue that sort of form given the contract problems and the return of Fletcher?

    I also wonder about Sunderland in general. Teams can over perform when the pressure is on. Sunderland have lost alot of players like Bardsley and Colback and haven't adequately replaced them IMO.

    He could be the next Jon Stead. There's a player Blackburn supporters will remember.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Lemlin wrote: »
    He could be the next Jon Stead. There's a player Blackburn supporters will remember.

    And Sunderland's ironically! :mad:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 Rightlad91


    Nikica Jelavic – Hull
    Ings is the overall best player in that list by a country mile. Followed by Wichham. If any of you boys have seen championship football season youd of seen him not just banging them in but hes overall game is immense. I expect him to be in the England reckoning for a place in the squad by christmas time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Rightlad91 wrote: »
    Ings is the overall best player in that list by a country mile. Followed by Wichham. If any of you boys have seen championship football season youd of seen him not just banging them in but hes overall game is immense. I expect him to be in the England reckoning for a place in the squad by christmas time.

    Thats the order I would have them in, which is why I'm amazed by the lack of love for Wickham. There are a few theories above though. If Ings didn't have such a difficult first match it wouldn't even be a decision...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Rightlad91 wrote: »
    Ings is the overall best player in that list by a country mile. Followed by Wichham. If any of you boys have seen championship football season youd of seen him not just banging them in but hes overall game is immense. I expect him to be in the England reckoning for a place in the squad by christmas time.

    The problem with Ings for me is that he had a brilliant partnership with Vokes who is now out till the new year. The other issue is burnley played 4 4 2 last year not sure if they will this year and Ings could play a slightly deeper role. I saw lots of Ings last year and agree he has huge potential and a great all round game. Due to their 2 opening home fixtures ill wait to see how it develops but can see myself getting him in by gw 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Rightlad91 wrote: »
    Ings is the overall best player in that list by a country mile. Followed by Wichham. If any of you boys have seen championship football season youd of seen him not just banging them in but hes overall game is immense. I expect him to be in the England reckoning for a place in the squad by christmas time.

    There's no way on earth that he can be classed as the best player in that list by a country mile IMO, when he's never kicked a ball in the Premier League.

    He had a great season last year but the two seasons prior he was atrocious in the Championship and that's being kind to him. He may well prove to an excellent player, but until he has kicked a ball in the league I wouldn't be confident going with him over Wickham (or Fletcher who is even cheaper depending on who starts), or even Jelavic and Long who I don't rate all that much. As we all know, if he scores a goal at all the press will be clamoring for him to be in the England side so that would be no surprise. Some of them were even calling for Wickham to go to Brazil after his end of season escapades.

    It's also worth noting that he didn't actually play as an out-and-out striker for large parts of last season. His best performances came as a number 10, off Vokes, with 14 of his 21 goals coming from that position With Vokes out they may revert to him as the main striker (where he only scored 7 in 22), but they've signed a lump in Jutkiewicz who they may use in order to continue to play Ings where he excelled - in that number 10 role. It's a much more difficult role to play in the Premier League where defensive midfielders and central defenders are much more adept at cutting off space that those in the hole get to do their work, among other things.

    He has a lot to prove before I'd be spending £6.0m on him when he may not even play as a striker and has competition from players who will definitely play up front and have proved they can score in the Premier League.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Paully D wrote: »
    And Sunderland's ironically! :mad:

    In fairness to him he scored six goals in 13 games, most of them winners, to keep us up. We got a decent fee in the end for him off ye too.

    The other question in relation to the cheap strikers is invariably who will be the opening day hero. The next Marlon Harwood or Danny Graham that scores one or two on opening day and is never heard from again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Lemlin wrote: »
    In fairness to him he scored six goals in 13 games, most of them winners, to keep us up. We got a decent fee in the end for him off ye too.

    The other question in relation to the cheap strikers is invariably who will be the opening day hero. The next Marlon Harwood or Danny Graham that scores one or two on opening day and is never heard from again!

    Brown Ideye against Sunderland, mark it down. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Paully D wrote: »
    Brown Ideye against Sunderland, mark it down. :pac:

    Just had to Google him. My god. 10 million on him. Surely the next Mitroglu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    Paully D wrote: »
    There's no way on earth that he can be classed as the best player in that list by a country mile IMO, when he's never kicked a ball in the Premier League.

    He had a great season last year but the two seasons prior he was atrocious in the Championship and that's being kind to him.

    It's also worth noting that he didn't actually play as an out-and-out striker for large parts of last season. His best performances came as a number 10, off Vokes, with 14 of his 21 goals coming from that position With Vokes out they may revert to him as the main striker (where he only scored 7 in 22), but they've signed a lump in Jutkiewicz who they may use in order to continue to play Ings where he excelled - in that number 10 role. It's a much more difficult role to play in the Premier League where defensive midfielders and central defenders are much more adept at cutting off space that those in the hole get to do their work, among other things.

    He has a lot to prove before I'd be spending £6.0m on him when he may not even play as a striker and has competition from players who will definitely play up front and have proved they can score in the Premier League.
    Just a few things on this. Ings signed for burnley as an 18/19 year old and had a serious knee injury in his first pre season when he came back he was mainly restricted to sub appearances due to jay rod and charlie austin being the established strikers. Jay rod was sold to southampton at the end of that season with Ings in good form pre season he again got a serious knee injury and missed a fair chunk of that season. Eddie Howe who signed him was replaced by Dyche who implemented a much more defensive approach as burnley were in danger of being relegated and Ings was eased back in after his injury granted his stats look poor. Last season was his first season injury free and being played in his best position he has also only turned 22 last month.
    Regarding his positioning he did play off a front man but more in the traditional 4 4 2 role i.e. rooney under Ferguson as opposed to the likes of mata, silva, coutinho, oscar in a 4 2 3 1.
    The stats on him hitting 7 in 22 as a main striker are wrong his positioning never changed he played off vokes and then off barnes. Vokes played 39 league games before getting injured against leicester towards the end of the season at a time when Ings was also out injured. Ings returned for the last 6 games of the season and played up top with ashley barnes.
    As I mentioned a few posts back Ill wait to see if burnley change tactics away from a 4 4 2 to a 4 3 3 for the PL before deciding on Ings which is no harm as they have a tough first 3 games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    The question is, do we get in Ings knowing his first three games are tough, or go for another striker and sub Ings in if/when he starts performing? I'm leaning towards the latter. With the wildcard on hand, I think its best to just pick a team for GW1 which should be well set for GW2 and GW3. Looking further than that at this stage is pointless as so many will use their WC early.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,944 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Shane Long – Hull
    Lemlin wrote: »
    Just had to Google him. My god. 10 million on him. Surely the next Mitroglu.
    Ah ya know, each case on its own merits and all that.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 Rightlad91


    Nikica Jelavic – Hull
    Ings and Austin both are their respective teams penalty kick takers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    roryc wrote: »
    The question is, do we get in Ings knowing his first three games are tough, or go for another striker and sub Ings in if/when he starts performing? I'm leaning towards the latter. With the wildcard on hand, I think its best to just pick a team for GW1 which should be well set for GW2 and GW3. Looking further than that at this stage is pointless as so many will use their WC early.

    That would be my strategy ill consider him from gw 4 depending on how burnley look and what way they line up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Rightlad91 wrote: »
    Ings and Austin both are their respective teams penalty kick takers.

    Is Jelavic on them for Hull? He took one against WBA last year and it was saved but Rosenior scored the rebound.

    The penalty still ended in a goal so I doubt they'd take him off them for that. He's listed behind Brady on FFS but it's doubtful that Brady will play:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/premiership-set-piece-takers/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,600 ✭✭✭roryc


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    That would be my strategy ill consider him from gw 4 depending on how burnley look and what way they line up.

    Yep. Maybe better to look at Wickham or Jelavic/Long until then. You'll get an idea of what Hull are planning based on their Europa League tie. Austin is a no go for me based on Remy staying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    roryc wrote: »
    Yep. Maybe better to look at Wickham or Jelavic/Long until then. You'll get an idea of what Hull are planning based on their Europa League tie. Austin is a no go for me based on Remy staying...

    Wickham could be out of the running too:

    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gus-poyet-warns-connor-wickham-7544505
    Poyet wants to keep Wickham at the Stadium of Light but admits that if that is not possible the club must protect its investment, which would mean putting him up for sale.

    “For me, Connor’s situation is clear,” said Poyet. “He needs to sign a new contract or we let him go – we sell him. There is nothing in between. He is an asset to the football club and we paid a lot of money for him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Lemlin wrote: »
    Is Jelavic on them for Hull? He took one against WBA last year and it was saved but Rosenior scored the rebound.

    The penalty still ended in a goal so I doubt they'd take him off them for that. He's listed behind Brady on FFS but it's doubtful that Brady will play:

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/premiership-set-piece-takers/

    Huddlestone took and missed a penalty last night. Jelavic wasn't on pitch at the time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Shane Long – Hull
    Rightlad91 wrote: »
    Ings and Austin both are their respective teams penalty kick takers.

    Will Austin be still taking them if Remy hangs around?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,870 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Huddlestone took and missed a penalty last night. Jelavic wasn't on pitch at the time though.

    Shane Long said in an interview he was the penalty taker but was off injured before it was given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Lemlin wrote: »

    His father tweeted the below today in response:

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    Fletcher at £5.5m looking a better option by the day it would appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    Connor Wickham – Sunderland
    Paully D wrote: »
    His father tweeted the below today in response:

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    Fletcher at £5.5m looking a better option by the day it would appear.

    How's his fitness? He featuring much in pre season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Lemlin wrote: »
    How's his fitness? He featuring much in pre season?

    Read an interview with him he started fitness work early to be ready for new season. Scored a couple in 45 mins of friendly other than that I don't know. Pretty much all the teams are playing friendlies over the weekend lineups should start to more resemble what we'll see for GW1, as we get closer to the big K.O.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Lemlin wrote: »
    How's his fitness? He featuring much in pre season?

    Fletcher's?

    Started the first game and played 45 minutes, scoring 2 and being denied a hat-trick by a superb save against Darlington. They were horrendous though. He played 60 minutes in the second game against Hartlepool and again was denied by a superb save and also missed a very good chance, his movement was reported to be quite good. He played the full 90 against Nacional the other night up top, with Wickham on the left, missed a header from 10 yards but should have had an assist when he played a brilliant ball through to Wickham who was denied by the keeper

    Interestingly, a poll on the Sunderland forum asking who will start as first choice between him and Wickham showed the below:

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    Sunderland play Setubal, Udinese and Betis over the next week so hopefully things will be a bit clearer by this day next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭thunderdog


    Anyone considering Crouch? Admittedly he wont be banging in the goals, but over the whole season he is steady enough and has good fixtures at the start of the season for Stoke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Charlie Austin – QPR
    thunderdog wrote: »
    Anyone considering Crouch? Admittedly he wont be banging in the goals, but over the whole season he is steady enough and has good fixtures at the start of the season for Stoke

    he is linked with west ham


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭bicboy6666


    Nikica Jelavic – Hull
    lol at people with bojan


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