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Motive means and oppontunity

  • 31-07-2014 8:08am
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    Posts: 0


    I always think that humans are essentially good, but then again I am an optimist,...... on the radio yesterday there was a comment about the amount of solicitor's who have been jailed for fraud, which must mean that

    (1) solicitors are inherently more dishonest that the rest of us( I doubt that ) or(2) its all about motive means and opportunity. In other words solicitors commit more crimes because they are in a position to do so.

    So are we as humans inherently good? or are we good because we don't have the motive means and opportunity to do what we would really like to do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Germany 1939.
    Depends on the circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭biketard


    kneemos wrote: »
    Germany 1939.
    Depends on the circumstances.

    Mike Godwin approves of this post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    "Opportunity"

    there is my chance to correct to the spellling mistake with the motive of being good :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    shrewd wrote: »
    "Opportunity"

    there is my chance to correct to the spellling mistake with the motive of being good :D

    It's not being nice to correct someones spelling, I'd consider it the opposite tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Sauve wrote: »
    It's not being nice to correct someones spelling, I'd consider it the opposite tbh.

    Ah go away out of that. If politely done I'd appreciate being corrected. :D


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Off topic, but my English is not fantastic it never had any effect on my I did very well in school, third level and had a good job, I am sure if it was today I would be getting all kinds of help( I am so glad I was never give any help in school and was just made get on with it ).

    Its made me great with seeing a way around a problem and its made me stick with thing which has stood me in good stead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Buzz Killington the third


    Why is all the fun stuff illegal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    py2006 wrote: »
    Ah go away out of that. If politely done I'd appreciate being corrected. :D

    Handing out bans for it the last I
    herd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,866 ✭✭✭Fat Christy


    People, what a bunch of bastárds!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    shrewd wrote: »
    "Opportunity"

    there is my chance to correct to the spellling mistake with the motive of being good :D

    In fairness, it looked more like a typo than a spelling mistake, a bit like spelling 'spelling' with 3 ls.

    :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    (1) solicitors are inherently more dishonest that the rest of us( I doubt that )

    They spend a great deal of their time getting their clients 'off' with offences.

    "your honour my client was unaware he stole a horse. He simply found a rope in a field, he was unaware the horse was tied to one end of it. "

    It's basically professional lying tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    With regards to motive, means, and opportunity, I'm sure if the opportunity presents itself often enough, and you know of others that are getting away with it, a lot of people would be tempted. However, others are decent.

    The wife of a friend of mine to the accounts for an old couple who are loaded. Multi-millionaires. They don't pay her that well, an when the business shuts down (which is likely to be sooner rather than later, due to their age) she'll be out of a job and probably without a farewell bonus. She could easily swindle them for millions or even a few thousand, but she never has.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They spend a great deal of their time getting their clients 'off' with offences.

    "your honour my client was unaware he stole a horse. He simply found a rope in a field, he was unaware the horse was tied to one end of it. "

    It's basically professional lying tbh

    So your point is their profession make them become more fluid about dishonesty and thus more likely to commit fraud that the rest of us?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    mariaalice wrote: »
    So your point is their profession make them become more fluid about dishonesty and thus more likely to commit fraud that the rest of us?

    Well not really, but they're experts at bending the rules and exploiting loopholes.

    Look at that lawyer that got OJ Simpson acquitted. He later went on to get Stevie Wonder his driving license back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Calibos


    That career might just have a selection bias where there is a higher proportion of intelligent people with psychopathies attracted to it.


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