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have you enough fodder for this winter saved?

  • 30-07-2014 5:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭


    still have to do a few more bales and triticale, should have plenty


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    750 bales in yard. 11 acres of second to cut soon might get 60 bales there and then will do 18 acres of 3rd cut. Might get another 100/120 there.
    Might look into buying washed and chopped beat aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Fully covered from mid October to early April to feed everything,excluding whole crop and straw.third cut from Italian in 4 weeks and a few surplus paddock over next few weeks never had as much feed and very good feed at that in the yard ,prefer to be looking at it next April than for forcitvthough .mobey in the bank.my normal winter would be mid November to late march.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    What are ye putting down for what weanlings will eat and dry cows and incalf heifers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭KatyMac


    I've a budgeting sheet: working with tonnes of silage:
    Dairy cows = 1.6 x no of cows x number of months of winter feeding
    Suck cows = 1.4 x no of cows x months
    calves = 0.7 x no of animals x months
    1-2 year olds = 1.3 x no of animals x months
    And if you want the answer in bales rather than tonnes multiply the final answer by 1.1.

    I got this from Teagasc a few years ago and find it to be very close to the final amount of bales I use during the winter. I was out by about 4 last year, which is pretty good I thought!

    I have enough saved to do me and have hopes of getting about 50 extra bales from a couple of fields that were cut very early and have good grass now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    I have a requirement for 432 tonne of dry matter of silage for a six month winter

    Have 400 tonne dm in pits and a further 80tonne dm in bales

    Require 80 tonne dm maize but at a conservative estimate ill have 160

    I'll need 35 tonne dm brewers/citrus mix and I've 45 tonne clamped

    All in all I'm well covered for six months
    Only had a 4 month winter last year but you can never count your chickens

    All I need now is 20 tonne soya and that's me sorted


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    stanflt wrote: »
    I have a requirement for 432 tonne of dry matter of silage for a six month winter

    Have 400 tonne dm in pits and a further 80tonne dm in bales

    Require 80 tonne dm maize but at a conservative estimate ill have 160

    I'll need 35 tonne dm brewers/citrus mix and I've 45 tonne clamped

    All in all I'm well covered for six months
    Only had a 4 month winter last year but you can never count your chickens

    All I need now is 20 tonne soya and that's me sorted

    I need 205 t for 6 months. Usually everything out by month five. For 5 months I need 155 I should have 130 in silage. With a bit of meal to milkers and half straw to half silage to fat cows and a few KGS of barley to thin cows I should be okay.
    I'll use 8 bales a day so I would need another 250 for an extra month


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    stanflt wrote: »
    I have a requirement for 432 tonne of dry matter of silage for a six month winter

    Have 400 tonne dm in pits and a further 80tonne dm in bales

    Require 80 tonne dm maize but at a conservative estimate ill have 160

    I'll need 35 tonne dm brewers/citrus mix and I've 45 tonne clamped

    All in all I'm well covered for six months
    Only had a 4 month winter last year but you can never count your chickens

    All I need now is 20 tonne soya and that's me sorted

    Well, I don't need any more bales. This is some of them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Well, I don't need any more bales. This is some of them

    Any for sale :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    I think I need the 200tons also, rough estimate I've got 250 tons now, 1/2 of that is bought in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Any for sale :D

    Yes, €50 collected. Minimum 50%dmd all leaf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Yes, €50 collected. Minimum 50%dmd all leaf

    50% dmd ,you'd have ton pay me to take that away!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭on the river


    Yes, €50 collected. Minimum 50%dmd all leaf

    You might do a deal with boards members


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    You might do a deal with boards members

    75 a bale so

    and oh yea cash upfront as well:-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    50% dm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭on the river


    ellewood wrote: »
    75 a bale so

    and oh yea cash upfront as well:-)

    Come on wheres the love.

    If I buy 20 you might give 20 free


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    We have enough in the pit to do us but still going to do around 16 acres of bales in a few weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Well, I don't need any more bales. This is some of them

    Those bales don't seem to be packed very well. Did you make them yourself or did the contractor try pull fast one.
    Sorry if I seem critical its just I hate to see contractors making small bales to make more money for themselves :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    First time I stacked 3 high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,216 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    First time I stacked 3 high.
    last year was the last time we stacked 3 high:rolleyes::rolleyes: bottom bales got flattened


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    whelan2 wrote: »
    last year was the last time we stacked 3 high:rolleyes::rolleyes: bottom bales got flattened

    I know of a farmer who stacked 4 high, and is bloody lucky to have escaped with just 2 broken legs when one came down on top of him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Those bales don't seem to be packed very well. Did you make them yourself or did the contractor try pull fast one.
    Sorry if I seem critical its just I hate to see contractors making small bales to make more money for themselves :confused:

    All grass tedded at least once would be bordering 50% dm, occasional load weighed. Usually come in at 680- 700 kgs, yesterday's bales 900 kg can't see how he'd get in any more. All bales are 100% leaf no stem what ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    whelan2 wrote: »
    last year was the last time we stacked 3 high:rolleyes::rolleyes: bottom bales got flattened

    Yeah I wAs afraid of that too but it's top quality at dry, 2 nd cut will be stacked 2 high! Il see how i get on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    What do use for dm in a bale ?200kilos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    What do use for dm in a bale ?200kilos


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    keep going wrote: »
    What do use for dm in a bale ?200kilos

    Depends what weight really. I reckon ours weigh 650kgs most yrs around 22/23 dm
    159kgs of dry matter I estimate in my bales. Haven't tested this yr so don't know yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    keep going wrote: »
    What do use for dm in a bale ?200kilos

    Got some sampled

    48dm
    81dmd

    Weight 780
    So that means there is 374.4 kg dm in a bale

    Grass Tedded twice
    Pure leaf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Fusion made bales are approximately 15% heavier for some reason
    Bales look the same size????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    stanflt wrote: »
    Fusion made bales are approximately 15% heavier for some reason
    Bales look the same size????

    I weighed Fusion and JD same weight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Those bales don't seem to be packed very well. Did you make them yourself or did the contractor try pull fast one.
    Sorry if I seem critical its just I hate to see contractors making small bales to make more money for themselves :confused:

    Would it be the swarth in font of the baler, although if it's tedded I presume it's raked nicely too @frazzledhome ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    I weighed bales out of a deutz baler and bent the scales, there was no bale less than 985kg and the grass was waffled 2 or 3 times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Could it be driving speed??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Sami23 wrote: »
    Those bales don't seem to be packed very well. Did you make them yourself or did the contractor try pull fast one.
    Sorry if I seem critical its just I hate to see contractors making small bales to make more money for themselves :confused:

    If you are taking out paddocks, grass will be leafy and short. Hard to get good shaped corners on bales with this type grass but who cares when quality is more than likely excellent??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    I weighed bales out of a deutz baler and bent the scales, there was no bale less than 985kg and the grass was waffled 2 or 3 times

    Were they bathroom scales? Say the missus was pissed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭severeoversteer


    Muckit wrote: »
    Were they bathroom scales? Say the missus was pissed

    cattle scales,


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