Orchestrated racist/xenophobic attacks in Belfast.

Guess whereabouts in Belfast :pac: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-28540284

It's almost like they just have to hate someone. Now that they know they won't get away with burning people out of their houses or targeting a large minority they've decided to target a couple of percent of the population. I suppose with the quiet marching season it has to happen elsewhere.

dd972

Let me guess, is it the section of the populace up there who turned down a 9 county state as they might have had a fair scrap on their hands....

....and put up Scottish flags, claim not to be Irish and object to foreigners coming to Ireland.

Adamantium

Leave John Williams alone, he has done enough to earn his bigoted views and actions IMO.

KungPao

Over the years I always felt "both sides are bad as each other". I don't feel like this anymore. The Unionist/Loyalist side have serious issues and I can't comprehend the hatred that many of them seem to maintain for people outside of their "tradition".

Karl Stein

KungPao wrote: »

Over the years I always felt "both sides are bad as each other".

A consciously contrived narrative that was propagated by the establishment.

There is a congenial, indeed government-backed myth, in both Scotland and in Ireland, that "one side is bad as another": that Sinn Fein-IRA are pretty much the same as the UDA/UVF. This is simply untrue. There is no republican equivalent to the Romper Rooms of the UDA, wherein men were routinely beaten to a pulp by loyalist thugs, and from which both the term and the practice became celebrated.

This culture did not emerge simply as a response to IRA violence. It was there already. It was feckless, violent, drunken, lost, lumpen proletarians for whom a perverted tribal identity conjoined with a Godlessly Calvinist sense of superiority, even as they stewed in their ghettoes of suffocating illiteracy and economic failure.

Kevin Myers.

KungPao

KungPao wrote: »

Over the years I always felt "both sides are bad as each other". I don't feel like this anymore. The Unionist/Loyalist side have serious issues and I can't comprehend the hatred that many of them seem to maintain for people outside of their "tradition".

Yeah it's a view I agreed with until I learned how to read. :pac:

chaddonnelly

dd972 wrote: »

Let me guess, is it the section of the populace up there who turned down a 9 county state as they might have had a fair scrap on their hands....

....and put up Scottish flags, claim not to be Irish and object to foreigners coming to Ireland.

Don't forget the "2000 year link with Scotland" that those brave Ulstermen have "hand across the water" they call it, even though it was the taigs of the 6th century who formed the Dal Riada kingdom and in turn started Gaelic Scotland.

mikeym

Its disgusting.

dd972

For once My-Arse is 100% spot on, David McKittricks 'Lost Lives' book where the deaths are chronicled show this up.

If you were an ordinary Joe during the Troubles you were about 95% less likely to be murdered for sectarian / pseudo racist reasons if you were a Prod.

Strazdas

I notice the cretins have been daubing "Romanians Out" on the walls in the area, but one of the families attacked last night are from Slovakia (a full EU member since 2004 by the way).

Hotfail.com

Strazdas wrote: »

I notice the cretins have been daubing "Romanians Out" on the walls in the area, but one of the families attacked last night are from Slovakia (a full EU member since 2004 by the way).

I don't think they give a f*ck about EU membership tbh, and it wouldn't surprise me if they think "Romanians" means Eastern European.

Nodin

Strazdas wrote: »

I notice the cretins have been daubing "Romanians Out" on the walls in the area, but one of the families attacked last night are from Slovakia (a full EU member since 2004 by the way).

Doubtless anyone who raised such Fenian quibbles would be kept in a basement for next seasons bonfire.