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Parent transfering property

  • 25-07-2014 4:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi

    My Dad is mentioning he wants to transfer property to me and siblings

    Is there some sort of rule that all 4 of us have to have separate solicitors?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Hi

    My Dad is mentioning he wants to transfer property to me and siblings

    Is there some sort of rule that all 4 of us have to have separate solicitors?

    The "Seller" and "Buyer" must/should have separate solicitors, since there might be a conflict between the Seller and Buyer.

    You might get a solicitor to act for the 4 buyers, since there is less potential for a conflict of interest, assuming all get equal shares/entitlements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I remembered this

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0716/329383-law-society-property-icmsa/

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/archives/2012/0710/business/mandatory-solicitors-for-both-sides-aposwould-double-farm-transfer-feesapos-200196.html

    Has this happened? Is there a legal requirement? or a law society requirement?

    If my Dad is transferring property to me and my brother and sister does that mean all 4 of us need 4 separate solicitors

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,157 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Anyone?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Anyone?

    It says both sides not all parties. If 20 people are buying a property they all don't need independent solicitors, siblings buying property together don't usually need separate solicitors. It would only be an issue if their was a conflict, say one sibling was getting the lions share but not investing any of the money the others would be best advised to get independent legal advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,035 ✭✭✭goz83


    When myself and the OH were buying the house from my Dad, we all used the one solicitor. That was in 2007/08


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭andylennon11


    Hi guys just wondering how much it costs to get a solicitor to transfer ny dads property into my name? Roughly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭spin777


    Hi guys just wondering how much it costs to get a solicitor to transfer ny dads property into my name? Roughly?

    Depends on a few things. Like title review and registration etc.

    Solicitor will probably charge about €800-1200 and registration of the property and searches may be another €300. Plus vat.

    Then you'll need a solicitor each due to new stricter legislation. So multiple that by two :-(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    spin777 wrote: »
    Then you'll need a solicitor each due to new stricter legislation. So multiple that by two :-(

    Do you HAVE TO have a solicitor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭spin777


    Addle wrote: »
    Do you HAVE TO have a solicitor?

    Yes, 100% yes but shop around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    spin777 wrote: »
    Yes, 100% yes but shop around.

    Even between family? Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭spin777


    Addle wrote: »
    Even between family? Why?

    Because families also fall out..... A LOT


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Addle wrote: »
    Even between family? Why?

    No family have ever fallen out over property?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    There is a higher standard to be met than when dealing at arms length.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Yup. The fact that the transaction parties are related to one another is a complicating factor, not a simplifying factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭andylennon11


    Thanks. Am I required to pay full fee or is the transfer of property paid by parent and vat and extra fees paid by me? Solicitor says it will be billed to both of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Is your parent charging you for the property? They may have a liability to Revenue.
    Purchaser/transferee pays fees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭andylennon11


    No they inherited it and are putting it in my name. Fee is very high for stamp duty and transfer fees and vat. Bill is being addressed to both parties and Parent wants to go halves so I'm just wondering if this is the right way or really is it up to me to pay for whole thing including transfer fees? Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭spin777


    No they inherited it and are putting it in my name. Fee is very high for stamp duty and transfer fees and vat. Bill is being addressed to both parties and Parent wants to go halves so I'm just wondering if this is the right way or really is it up to me to pay for whole thing including transfer fees? Thanks!

    If my parents were giving me a property for free I'd be happy to pay all the fees. :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    Addle wrote: »
    Even between family? Why?

    It's to do with recent scandals where in a couple of high profile instances one solicitor was able to run amok. It's a check and balance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    It's to do with recent scandals where in a couple of high profile instances one solicitor was able to run amok. It's a check and balance.
    Not so much. It's to do with the fact that where parties are related to one another there's an increased risk of, e.g., duress, undue influence, etc being exerted by one party to the transaction over the other. Plus, there's an increased risk that the parties haven't talking things through as much as arm's-length parties do, that one party has unspoken expectations about the transaction which he assumes the other shares, etc, etc.


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