Is this the most f**ed up the world has been in years?

eviltimeban

*edit: recent years.

Syria (ongoing).

Girls gang raped and killed in India, and kidnapped in Nigeria.

MH370 goes missing (presumed crashed).

Gaza conflict.

MH17 shot down.

Taipei plane crash yesterday.

Chance The Rapper

I'd say the middle ages were worse

PG4000

You forgot to mention Garth Brooks.

MagicIRL

Isn't there some study that proves the world is getting progressively better as time goes on?

Macavity.

Not even close.

D

You forgot about the Brooks concerts.

Edit: Beaten.

jimgoose

We didn't start the fire.

vitani

I don't know if it is, or if it's just that we're more aware of everything that's going on these days because of social media etc, but yes, it definitely feels like things are more f**ked up than usual at the moment.

Mr. CooL ICE

Seems grand. Can't remember the last time my village was raped and pillaged by a bunch of Danes

Riamfada

There was a period there in the early 40s where things were a bit out of sync.

Ash.J.Williams

in 1917 U-boats sank over 3000 ships.....imagine that happened now! Most of them would have been civilian/cargo

The Backwards Man

I'd imagine it's getting better every single day, despite ongoing crises. The world isn't getting worse, it's just getting smaller.

SEPT 23 1989

All of those things happening on a single day would be considered a quiet one during the worst days of WW2

conorhal

Na, I'd imagine that 24-7 news cycles and endless #outrage! campaigns might make it feel so, but the world is as $h1tty as it's always been. Though I have to say, I'm a lot more pessimistic about it then I was in '89 when the Wall came down, Nelson Mandela walked free and (ugh) The Scorpions topped the charts with Winds of change. It felt like there was genuine hope in the air, and not just Obama style slogans about 'hope'.

Frankly I've lost the urge to change the world since then, some may call that cynicisism, but I think that the reality is that all the problems you list are for those nations to fix for themselves. Nations strive for independence on their own path, afterwards they typically then have a good civil war (we did) to see who gets to run then, then they slowly evolve at their own pace according to what the majority of the population are willing to change or not change, but most nations want to do better for their populations and their populations want better for themselves so change and progress is an inevitable if often rocky path and the patronizing paternalism of the west tutting and interfering is a joke. We should just stay out of it, and that includes funding and arming various sides of conflicts.

Qualitymark

Seagulls.

Maximus Alexander

As long as there have been people in the world, it's been pretty ****ed up. But it's still better than the alternative.

jimgoose

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

All of those things happening on a single day would be considered a quiet one during the worst days of WW2

Contrary to the current popular belief the 1960s were pretty screwy too. Cuba, Yom Kippur, civil rights, Vietnam, etc.

wretcheddomain

Not since the summer of 1992. Awful heat.

cloud493

As someone already pointed out, constant 24 hour updates of news means they have to either dig out new stuff, or keep repeating the same stuff over and over. See sky news.

blinding

eviltimeban wrote: »

Syria (ongoing).

Girls gang raped and killed in India, and kidnapped in Nigeria.

MH370 goes missing (presumed crashed).

Gaza conflict.

MH17 shot down.

Taipei plane crash yesterday.

I was kinda thinking the same.

But the posters here have made me re-evaluate.

The Garth Brooks thing is really serious though ! (Jeez, I am beginning to hate that guy even though I know almost nothing about him. I best take a chill pill)

Grand Moff Tarkin

Having made it through the 70's and 80's with the threat of a nuclear WWIII hanging over us like a sword on a string I can say that this is nothing.

Qualitymark

OP, look at the basis for conflict in each of the atrocity-laden hellholes you cite: enormous amounts of arms supplied by gleefully-hands-rubbing companies, conflict over ownership of land, eugenicist nonsense about who should be entitled to live in a particular spot, woo-woo religious mania…
And oil. I pray daily to my non-sectarian, non-religious God for some clever person to invent, quick-smart, a replacement for the internal combustion engine that's cheap and easily made by everyone and runs on something in huge universal supply like sun or seawater.

JustAddWater

Its gonna hit 27C in parts of Dublin today.... That's some crazy ass stuff right there

Warper

The Crusades all the way

fonecrusher1

Tiz desperate ......

Calibos

By all global metrics including health, poverty, lifespan, wars, crime etc etc we are living in the safest time ever in the history of the world. A billion people have been lifted out of abject poverty in the last 20-30 years alone. Global 24hour mass media make it seem magnitudes worse than it used to be when in fact it's actually magnitudes better than it used to be.

It's like the saying, 'weather is not climate'. Weather is time and geographically localised. Climate is global trends. People confusing the two leads to people saying idiotic things like 'Jaysus, how about that Irish Snow in 2010! Just shows how that global warming lark is a load of sh!te.'

Yes there's sh!tty wars and atrocities going on in the world right now but there's actually less of both now than in any time in history. Even though there was a lot worse a lot more often You just didn't hear about them then.

Barely There

MagicIRL wrote: »

Isn't there some study that proves the world is getting progressively better as time goes on?

Yes, it's called 'History'.

No Pants

I take it you never heard of the Great War/World War and World War II. The Napoleonic Wars? Armenia?

There's a handy list here.

The events you mention? John Rambo has killed more on his own.

donegal__road

in 1927, the world population hit the 2 billion milestone... today the world population is 7.2 billion.

The more people there are, the more messed up things will get.



Interesting graph showing how the world's population has increased as technology advances.

OldNotWIse

Dont forget the plague outbreak.

gandalf

These kinds of issues always existed in some form or another. What has changed is the availability of coverage and information. As someone has already said the world today is more than likely a better place than it was 20 years ago, 50 years ago a hundred years ago for the majority of its inhabitants.

Here is a graph of the increase in life expectancy over the 100 years from 1900 to 2000. Africa is still lagging behind the World Average but it is catching up.

wendell borton

Cyclists.

folan

the worlds been this ****ed up for ever. its peoples fault

eviltimeban

I should've refined my post to state "recent years". I'm fully aware that WW2 was A Bad Thing Indeed. Same with the famine / plague / Vietnam and all that.

Let's take the last decade.

(I had actually put Garth Brooks as the last point, but deleted it as I felt it demeaned the other events).

eviltimeban

conorhal wrote: »

We should just stay out of it, and that includes funding and arming various sides of conflicts.

I'm sure the average Dutch person had previous little interest in the Ukraine conflict, but the 154 of them who ended up in a field had no choice in the matter.

eviltimeban

cloud493 wrote: »

See sky news.

I avoid doing that on a daily basis.

floggg

eviltimeban wrote: »

Syria (ongoing).

Girls gang raped and killed in India, and kidnapped in Nigeria.

MH370 goes missing (presumed crashed).

Gaza conflict.

MH17 shot down.

Taipei plane crash yesterday.

Yes. Those 5 wars and events are definitely worse than countless genocides, world wars, slavery, slaughter, rape and sacking of entire city's and countries, various plagues, centuries of warfare etc.

Calibos

donegal__road wrote: »

in 1927, the world population hit the 2 billion milestone... today the world population is 7.2 billion.

The more people there are, the more messed up things will get.



Interesting graph showing how the world's population has increased as technology advances.

The world population will reach it's maximum of 10 billion in about 2050. Even in 3rd world countries like Bangladesh, birth rates are falling to replacement levels. Population will continue to increase till the cohorts born when birth rates were much higher die off, the last of them about the middle of the century. At that point there will be roughly 2 people born for every two that die and population stabilises at 10 billion.

ted1

Another plane has just gone down. 100+ people on board

floggg

eviltimeban wrote: »

Syria (ongoing).

Girls gang raped and killed in India, and kidnapped in Nigeria.

MH370 goes missing (presumed crashed).

Gaza conflict.

MH17 shot down.

Taipei plane crash yesterday.

You do realise it's not even the most ****ed up any of those countries have been in the last 100 years?

floggg

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

All of those things happening on a single day would be considered a quiet one during the worst days of WW2

Imagine how happy Nigerians would be in the 1500s if you told them only 300 of their children would be kidnapped that year.

floggg

conorhal wrote: »

Na, I'd imagine that 24-7 news cycles and endless #outrage! campaigns might make it feel so, but the world is as $h1tty as it's always been. Though I have to say, I'm a lot more pessimistic about it then I was in '89 when the Wall came down, Nelson Mandela walked free and (ugh) The Scorpions topped the charts with Winds of change. It felt like there was genuine hope in the are, and not Obama slogans about 'hope'.

Frankly I've lost the urge to change the world since then, some may call that cynicisism, but I think that the reality is that all the problems you list are for those nations to fix for themselves. Nations strive for independence on their own path, afterwards they typically then have a good civil war (we did) to see who gets to run then, then they slowly evolve at their own pace according to what the majority of the population are willing to change or not change, but most nations want to do better for their populations and their populations want better for themselves so change and progress is inevitable and the patronizing paternalism of the west tutting and interfering is a joke. We should just stay out of it, and that includes funding and arming various sides of conflicts.

You know most of those places are ****ed up precisely because of western and Russian interference?

Both sides ****ed with them for years, and even centuries and still do it.

The west only saw hands off when the **** they've caused piles up too high.

bb1234567

Another flight has gone missing last night, 110 on board. Going from burkina Faso to Algeria. Went off radar

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

LordChessington wrote: »

Seems grand. Can't remember the last time my village was raped and pillaged by a bunch of Danes

In fairness, they haven't had the chance. It's been years since we drew them in the Euros.

eviltimeban

floggg wrote: »

Yes. Those 5 wars and events are definitely worse than countless genocides, world wars, slavery, slaughter, rape and sacking of entire city's and countries, various plagues, centuries of warfare etc.

Recent years. Not "ever".

wonderfulname

eviltimeban wrote: »

I should've refined my post to state "recent years". I'm fully aware that WW2 was A Bad Thing Indeed. Same with the famine / plague / Vietnam and all that.

Let's take the last decade.

(I had actually put Garth Brooks as the last point, but deleted it as I felt it demeaned the other events).

Everything that's suddenly big news now has been simmering for longer than that. A decade ago everyone was ****ting a brick about Iraq, planes were falling out of the sky and the smoking ban was threatening to kill pubs as much as off licences are now.

who_me

Well, aviation has certainly become more deadly in the last century or so...

eviltimeban

who_me wrote: »

Well, aviation has certainly become more deadly in the last century or so...

But is it actually more dangerous, or is it because more people are flying? Or is that you meant?

Maximus Alexander

eviltimeban wrote: »

But is it actually more dangerous, or is it because more people are flying? Or is that you meant?

I think it was a joke, since the first commercial flight was almost exactly 100 years ago.

eviltimeban

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

I think it was a joke, since the first commercial flight was almost exactly 100 years ago.

D'oh. Didn't even read that.

BeerWolf

I miss the days of the inquisition... Good times - often had the lads warming up people's feet in the cold weather. Oh, and them chairs... great treat if you like acupuncture! Even comes heated sometimes... just the so few examples of the many, lovely stuff.