Looking to get a used Mondeo

Tilikum

Basically, I have 10k to get a used car.

I was thinking about a 08 ford mondeo.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Noccy_Mondy

You'd get a fresher Mondeo for €10k. If you did your homework you could potentially get a 2010 titanium for around that, might have to sacrifice the low mileage. You'd get a 2009 titanium no bother for that though.

Are you justifying the miileage for diesel, or is petrol the way to go?

Tilikum

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

You'd get a fresher Mondeo for €10k. If you did your homework you could potentially get a 2010 titanium for around that, might have to sacrifice the low mileage. You'd get a 2009 titanium no bother for that though.

Are you justifying the miileage for diesel, or is petrol the way to go?

I didn't even know there was a 'titanium' version. I don't really know what to go for to be honest. Petrol or diesel. I just want a car with a large boot & liked the look of the mondeo.

colm_mcm

What are you driving now?

Noccy_Mondy

Ya specs go Lx or Edge as they can be called to Zetec to Titanium X, imports can have a Titanium spec aswell. There's a Titanium X Sport aswell, but they ain't too plentiful.

Titanium or Titanium X are the specs to go for, they have more toys and look more elegant. Even a Zetec isn't too bad, if the toys aren't on the top of your list.

Whether to go for a petrol or diesel will entirely depend on your annual mileage, you'd want to be doing around 15k miles or over to justify a diesel.

Tilikum

colm_mcm wrote: »

What are you driving now?

Ford focus

Tilikum

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

Ya specs go Lx or Edge as they can be called to Zetec to Titanium X, imports can have a Titanium spec aswell. There's a Titanium X Sport aswell, but they ain't too plentiful.

Titanium or Titanium X are the specs to go for, they have more toys and look more elegant. Even a Zetec isn't too bad, if the toys aren't on the top of your list.

Whether to go for a petrol or diesel will entirely depend on your annual mileage, you'd want to be doing around 15k miles or over to justify a diesel.

Yeah, I wouldn't do that much at all. The odd spin to Dublin or Cork

colm_mcm

Tilikum wrote: »

Ford focus

Hatch or saloon?

Tilikum

What kinda mileage should I be going for?

Tilikum

colm_mcm wrote: »

Hatch or saloon?

Hatch

Noccy_Mondy

Tilikum wrote: »

What kinda mileage should I be going for?

Mileage? There's no rule stating that you should change to diesel at X miles, but a diesel only starts to become economical/start saving you when you are doing high mileage. If you are from Dublin and the car will be doing short trips in stop start traffic then petrol would be the best option.

colm_mcm

Tilikum wrote: »

Hatch

The middle ground between a mondeo and focus hatch is the focus saloon. It has a really big boot (access to boot bit as handy as your hatch though)

Reason I'm asking is the Mondeo is an awkward lump of a car to live with. Not an issue for some but it won't be anywhere near as manoeuvrable as the focus

On the other hand though, the mondeos are very well priced used.

Tilikum

colm_mcm wrote: »

The middle ground between a mondeo and focus hatch is the focus saloon. It has a really big boot (access to boot bit as handy as your hatch though)

Reason I'm asking is the Mondeo is an awkward lump of a car to live with. Not an issue for some but it won't be anywhere near as manoeuvrable as the focus

On the other hand though, the mondeos are very well priced used.

To be honest, I don't really want another focus. Anything else around that price range that's a bit smaller

Noccy_Mondy

They are a big yoke to drive around alright. Personally I don't have any bother with mine, I can park it and drive it almost anywhere, but I can appreciate how others can feel differently. Parking sensors are a big plus though.

East jimmy

Can't recommend the diesel mondeo highly enough. I've an 04 admittedly on its last legs perhaps at this stage. 265k miles so far not a days trouble with it. Same clutch since new!!
Seems they loose a lot of there value from the first to the second owner which makes them a great buy secondhand.
I am looking about considering it will pack up at some stage and like the look at the titanium, very smart and price wise okay.
But for a change also looking at the insignia, Mazda 6, although the Mazda diesel seems from this forum to have a bad image.
I will shop about no doubt but I think it will be another mondeo!
You can buy my one if you like!!
J

East jimmy

Can't recommend the diesel mondeo highly enough. I've an 04 admittedly on its last legs perhaps at this stage. 265k miles so far not a days trouble with it. Same clutch since new!!
Seems they loose a lot of there value from the first to the second owner which makes them a great buy secondhand.
I am looking about considering it will pack up at some stage and like the look at the titanium, very smart and price wise okay.
But for a change also looking at the insignia, Mazda 6, although the Mazda diesel seems from this forum to have a bad image.
I will shop about no doubt but I think it will be another mondeo!
You can buy my one if you like!!
J

bazz26

You will be hard pushed to find a petrol Mondeo for sale here beyond a 2008/09, most will be diesel. Personally I would prefer the 2.0 TDCi over the older 1.8 TDCi, it has more power and more refined.

Tilikum

How much would a dealer usually give off the selling price of a car? I mean, am I wasting my time looking at cars that are 11k? Would they give 1k off?

colm_mcm

Tilikum wrote: »

How much would a dealer usually give off the selling price of a car? I mean, am I wasting my time looking at cars that are 11k? Would they give 1k off?

Wouldn't be unheard of. Depends on how well priced the car is in the first place. Ie if its already the cheapest 2.0 titanium 2010 model around asking €11k you mightn't get anything, but if its a 1.8 LX 2008 for €11k then you'd expect/demand some leeway.

First step is figure out what the particular car is worth and go from there.

Rossin

I got a 2007 mondeo with 130k miles last year for 3k, absolute bargain imo, it's in great shape, i think

MuppetCheck

A Mazda 6 petrol would be a good alternative. It's less comber some around town than the Mondeo and the Sport spec looks well and has a decent equipment level. The Mondeo is a better cruiser but there isn't a whole lot in it. They are thin on the ground post 2008 though but do pop up every so often.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7255478
Mazda 6 1.8 Sport

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7294435
Mazda 6 sport

I think the black one is overpriced. You can get lower specs are they are cheaper. The Executive SE is the same spec internally as the Sport on the pre-facelift cars but misses out on the 18s and tinted windows.

The Pontiac

Brother just bought a 2011 Mondeo 2.0tdci 140bhp hatch. Beautiful engine, very refined and plenty of power.

Lovely ride and handing. Lovely gearbox and clutch. Brilliant to drive!

€280 to tax for the year and excellent on fuel.

nice_guy80

The Pontiac wrote: »

Brother just bought a 2011 Mondeo 2.0tdci 140bhp hatch. Beautiful engine, very refined and plenty of power.

Lovely ride and handing. Lovely gearbox and clutch. Brilliant to drive!

€280 to tax for the year and excellent on fuel.

cost?

The Pontiac

nice_guy80 wrote: »

cost?

€13k 75k miles. Zetec

Tilikum

MuppetCheck wrote: »

A Mazda 6 petrol would be a good alternative. It's less comber some around town than the Mondeo and the Sport spec looks well and has a decent equipment level. The Mondeo is a better cruiser but there isn't a whole lot in it. They are thin on the ground post 2008 though but do pop up every so often.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7255478
Mazda 6 1.8 Sport

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7294435
Mazda 6 sport

I think the black one is overpriced. You can get lower specs are they are cheaper. The Executive SE is the same spec internally as the Sport on the pre-facelift cars but misses out on the 18s and tinted windows.

Really like the look of the Mazda

MuppetCheck

Tilikum wrote: »

Really like the look of the Mazda

Great cars. Get a light colour as the paint quality is pants.

Tilikum

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Great cars. Get a light colour as the paint quality is pants.

Been looking at 3 series bmw's. Might get a 2008 for 10k

TheBigGreen

Parents bought a Ford Mondeo NT Zetec 1.8tdi 125PS 6 Speed two weeks for 5500 euros. 2 owners (mother and son), good spec with 205,000km on it. All the belts etc were replaced in February. I drove it work twice and was a very confortable drive. Nice car.

Tilikum

Quick update.

I've been provisionally approved for a 10,000 loan. The car im looking at is 11,500. Or 10,500 with no trade in.

How much should I offer? Sorry for the stupid questions but I've never done this before. That's what I'm looking at. I'd like parking sensors though.

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/GH-1.8/57314038806638090/

ElKavo

I bought a 2008 tit x last year was 8k with 130km amazing spec. Leather and alcantara heated seats, digital dash, Climate, Sensors out the ying yang ( parking) and auto lights, wipers. Lovely car to drive too and not too bad on the go go juice either. Huge boot too. Tyres are expensive though 235 40 18. For 11k you should get a very nice one. Id only change for an estate 200 tit x , Have two dogs now so....

bazz26

Tilikum wrote: »

Quick update.

I've been provisionally approved for a 10,000 loan. The car im looking at is 11,500. Or 10,500 with no trade in.

How much should I offer? Sorry for the stupid questions but I've never done this before. That's what I'm looking at. I'd like parking sensors though.

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Mazda/Mazda6/GH-1.8/57314038806638090/

That's an awful lot of money for a 5 year old 6 petrol, these cars are not that popular these days due to the fascination with diesel. I'd keep looking if it were me.

Tilikum

bazz26 wrote: »

That's an awful lot of money for a 5 year old 6 petrol, these cars are not that popular these days due to the fascination with diesel. I'd keep looking if it were me.

It's 5yrs old but only 30,000 odd miles. I spoke to a mechanic today & he says - super reliable car but heavy on juice.

bazz26

Tilikum wrote: »

It's 5yrs old but only 30,000 odd miles. I spoke to a mechanic today & he says - super reliable car but heavy on juice.

Low mileage has very little bearing on it's current market value. Reality is that most people who bought a large family car from 2008 onwards bought a diesel unless the petrol model was cheap to tax, this was so much so that most manufacturers stopped selling petrol models of these cars because demand dropped off. A 5 year old petrol Mazda 6 has low desirability simply because it is petrol and this should be reflected in it's selling price.

I'm not saying don't buy one, they are a good buy for someone who doesn't warranty a diesel, just saying don't pay over the odds for one especially overinflated main dealer prices just because it has low mileage. I guarantee you if you walked into the same dealer looking to trade that car they would be offering you a very low trade-in value on it, telling you they are hard to shift because people don't want them.

With no trade-in and looking for a petrol car you can afford to be patient.

tinofapples

bazz26 wrote: »

You will be hard pushed to find a petrol Mondeo for sale here beyond a 2008/09, most will be diesel. Personally I would prefer the 2.0 TDCi over the older 1.8 TDCi, it has more power and more refined.

The tax on the post 2008 petrol Mondeo's is mental ............ I think the 1.6 petrol is €750 a year :eek:

MuppetCheck

tinofapples wrote: »

The tax on the post 2008 petrol Mondeo's is mental ............ I think the 1.6 petrol is €750 a year :eek:

A good chunk would have been registered before July to avail of the CC tax. Should be plenty about at the lower rate. My fathers an 08 2 litre on CC tax and cost that.

Tilikum

bazz26 wrote: »

Low mileage has very little bearing on it's current market value. Reality is that most people who bought a large family car from 2008 onwards bought a diesel unless the petrol model was cheap to tax, this was so much so that most manufacturers stopped selling petrol models of these cars because demand dropped off. A 5 year old petrol Mazda 6 has low desirability simply because it is petrol and this should be reflected in it's selling price.

I'm not saying don't buy one, they are a good buy for someone who doesn't warranty a diesel, just saying don't pay over the odds for one especially overinflated main dealer prices just because it has low mileage. I guarantee you if you walked into the same dealer looking to trade that car they would be offering you a very low trade-in value on it, telling you they are hard to shift because people don't want them.

With no trade-in and looking for a petrol car you can afford to be patient.

What would you buy if you had 10k.
The milage is the only thing that worried me. 2 owners in 5 yrs & only 30k miles??

MuppetCheck

Tilikum wrote: »

What would you buy if you had 10k.
The milage is the only thing that worried me. 2 owners in 5 yrs & only 30k miles??

If that car had more miles it would be obvious by the front end. The paint is pathetically poor. I traded in an 18 month old one with only 70k km and if I'd kept it the front end would have been resprayed there was so many stone chips. It's rare anyone would sell a petrol one due to mechanical woes.

I think the days of people buying diesel as a default choice are numbered. If anything a decent petrol car will be more in demand over the coming years. If you could get them to 9k you could be onto something. Make the offer, show your serious and play a waiting game for a week or two. If he wanted to shift it he'll be onto you.

Tilikum

MuppetCheck wrote: »

A Mazda 6 petrol would be a good alternative. It's less comber some around town than the Mondeo and the Sport spec looks well and has a decent equipment level. The Mondeo is a better cruiser but there isn't a whole lot in it. They are thin on the ground post 2008 though but do pop up every so often.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7255478
Mazda 6 1.8 Sport

http://cars.donedeal.ie/view/7294435
Mazda 6 sport

I think the black one is overpriced. You can get lower specs are they are cheaper. The Executive SE is the same spec internally as the Sport on the pre-facelift cars but misses out on the 18s and tinted windows.

What chatting to a guy today, he's selling his mazda 6 sport. It's a 08 and he's looking for €7k.

Does that sound really cheap? 126 kilometres.

MuppetCheck

1.8 petrol? That sounds about right tbh.

tinofapples

Tilikum wrote: »

What chatting to a guy today, he's selling his mazda 6 sport. It's a 08 and he's looking for €7k.

Does that sound really cheap? 126 kilometres.

2007's can be got for less than 4k, so IMO only if it's the new shape 6 would 7k be worthwhile.

Noccy_Mondy

tinofapples wrote: »

2007's can be got for less than 4k, so IMO only if it's the new shape 6 would 7k be worthwhile.

Yep, completely different car altogether. Looks miles better IMO.

nice_guy80

I bought a 2011 Mondeo zetec 2.0 140bhp privately for 12k last week.
79k miles on the clock.

Beef

I'll be in the market for a fresher mondeo shortly.

I'm currently driving a 2008 1.8 diesel zetec. Will there be much of a dropoff in price of the 2011-2013 models when the new model mondeo comes out in November do ye think?

bazz26

There is already a drop off as they have been discounting the current one heavily since the start of the year to shift them. When the new one eventually arrives they will drop further.

nice_guy80

The new one might not shift as quick though.

bazz26

nice_guy80 wrote: »

The new one might not shift as quick though.

Ford offer very favourable fleet discounts on their model range, the new Mondeo will be no different. With the current car being so long in the tooth, the new one will be welcome with open arms despite being already two years old.