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Gaining muscle and running

  • 22-07-2014 04:22PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭


    I was an avid runner covering up to 25 km a week on a threadmill. However, I'm now looking to put on muscle so my question is do I have to stop running that amount or cut it out altogether as it will interfere with me gaining muscle?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Healthis wrote: »
    I was an avid runner covering up to 25 km a week on a threadmill. However, I'm now looking to put on muscle so my question is do I have to stop running that amount or cut it out altogether as it will interfere with me gaining muscle?

    It depends. You can do both but you'll just hamper your efforts to build muscle if you aren't getting enough recovery in.


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    As long as you are in a calorie surplus and the running isnt interfering with your recovery / lower workouts you will gain muscle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Healthis


    I am only running 13-14 miles a week which isn't a lot. I lift weights tues/thurs/sat and run mon/wed/fri. I would love to hear from somebody who does both and still can build muscle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,394 ✭✭✭Transform


    conzy wrote: »
    As long as you are in a calorie surplus and the running isnt interfering with your recovery / lower workouts you will gain muscle
    this^^^

    ive never ever found it an issue and im 93kg, run regularly,

    i was about 78kg when running marathons a few years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    conzy wrote: »
    As long as you are in a calorie surplus and the running isnt interfering with your recovery / lower workouts you will gain muscle

    I disagree with this. I did sprinting/running based workouts 4x a week for the past few months, and tried to put on muscle using the evenings. It's ****ing hard, no word of a lie. Diet was pretty spot on, was getting all the rest I needed (the running was done on work time) but gainz made were minimal!


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  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    discus wrote: »
    I disagree with this. I did sprinting/running based workouts 4x a week for the past few months, and tried to put on muscle using the evenings. It's ****ing hard, no word of a lie. Diet was pretty spot on, was getting all the rest I needed (the running was done on work time) but gainz made were minimal!

    But by the sounds of it your focus was on sprinting and running and it did impact your strength / hypertrophy training. Did you gain weight over the 4 months?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    2kg +/- 400g (weight fluctuates over the day)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    discus wrote: »
    I disagree with this. I did sprinting/running based workouts 4x a week for the past few months, and tried to put on muscle using the evenings. It's ****ing hard, no word of a lie. Diet was pretty spot on, was getting all the rest I needed (the running was done on work time) but gainz made were minimal!

    Out of interest, what was your training across the week like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Morning sessions:
    Mon: 50/60 minute workout made up of various crossfit circuits back to back. Murph, Filthy 50, Cindy, Angie, Fight gone bad.
    Tuesday: Sprints session, maybe sleds involved, occasionally the ski slope.
    Wednesday: Run, sometimes with a log shared by 2 guys, occasionally with 12/15kg but mostly in trainers and just bw.
    Thursday: Fartlek
    Friday: Football/Basketball or steady state for those of us who hate soccerballing

    All these last an hour MAX and we have an hour to chill and make food afterwards... Followed by 2 hours work, and another 1 hour off to get more food in at lunch :p

    Evening sessions:
    Done according to Vince Girondas 8x8 program http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/girondas_8x8_training&cr=rel=nofollow

    There's a bodybuilding lad in work who changed a few things around for me, but those 5 days are how it went. Took weekends off, although sometimes by thursday afternoon I'd be ****ed so I'd leave the last 2 sessions til fri evening and saturday morning.

    Help?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I was just curious. But there's not a lot of recovery Monday - Friday.

    Nice mix of stuff, all the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    discus wrote: »
    2kg +/- 400g (weight fluctuates over the day)
    Would that not indicate you simply weren't eating enough to build muscle on top of the extra expenditure.

    ie if running/sprints slowed muscle gain, then your surplus would become fat. But it looks like the extra training meant there was no surplus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Da Optimist


    I don't see how running 14 miles a week will interefere with you gaining mass. It's all down to genes at the end of the day.


  • Subscribers Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭conzy


    Thats a serious amount of work in the morning sessions! Fair play.

    You gained 2kg in 4 months. Nice and slow, so if your nutrition was in check it was probably mostly lean mass.

    Thats 6kg in a year. i.e just shy of a stone in old money, while still managing to do all your non lifting stuff.

    Whats the problem? :P Seems to me like what your doing is working!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Mellor wrote: »
    Would that not indicate you simply weren't eating enough to build muscle on top of the extra expenditure.

    ie if running/sprints slowed muscle gain, then your surplus would become fat. But it looks like the extra training meant there was no surplus.

    I usually had 2800 kcal from breakfast/brunch/lunch, and I'd still have a stirfry and then a steak/chicken fillet before bed. (#singletonprivilege) I've a mate who is meticulous as calculating kcals/macros etc, he had me at 4100kcals on average per day. He's convinced I'm just a hardgainer, he made sick gains in the same period!
    Whats the problem? Seems to me like what your doing is working!

    I want sick gainz, and I want them yesterday!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    discus wrote: »
    I usually had 2800 kcal from breakfast/brunch/lunch, and I'd still have a stirfry and then a steak/chicken fillet before bed. (#singletonprivilege) I've a mate who is meticulous as calculating kcals/macros etc, he had me at 4100kcals on average per day. He's convinced I'm just a hardgainer, he made sick gains in the same period!

    What's your BMR?
    That's a pretty hefty training load, but 4100 is a lot all the same.


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