Sound of a Lighthouse off my cistern

vicwatson

What's happening? Its a press button cistern and when it finishes filling with water it bellows the sound of a fog horn.

What gives with that??

TIA

Sleeper12

You might need a new filler valve.

scudo2

Sleeper12 wrote: »

You might need a new filler valve.

"BALL COCK"

Sleeper12

scudo2 wrote: »

"BALL COCK"

You callin me names?

K.Flyer

But the Fluid Master has no Balls!

scudo2

Calm down everybody.
You need to reduce the pressure.






OP./ Vic

As the guys said, you need to replace filling valve, which use to be called a BALL COCK in the old toilets. Not a politicaly correct word now.
Also their affected if off the mains or high pressure water pumps and sometimes require a pressure reducer.
Its a simple attachment that comes with the filling valve. Your plumber will know.

DGOBS

Apologies, our resident plumbers revert to 12 year olds whenever possible, especially with 4 letter anatomical words.

Sleeper12

DGOBS wrote: »

Apologies, our resident plumbers revert to 12 year olds whenever possible, especially with 4 letter anatomical words.

In fairness some of us can't spell more than 4 letters at a time.

vicwatson

No money for plumber can I do this myself, not the worst at DIY, easy job? Or....?

Thanks

scudo2

Sleeper12 wrote: »

In fairness some of us can't spell more than 4 letters at a time.

C A S H

K.Flyer

vicwatson wrote: »

No money for plumber can I do this myself, not the worst at DIY, easy job? Or....?

Thanks

Is it possible to post a picture of the wc cistern internals to see what set up you have and we will do our best to help out.

vicwatson

K.Flyer wrote: »

Is it possible to post a picture of the wc cistern internals to see what set up you have and we will do our best to help out.

Thanks a million, I'll get a pic up later today.

vicwatson

Tried posting the picture but the image is massive when I post it here, here is the link to it

http://imgur.com/KKfHuKD

K.Flyer

vicwatson wrote: »

Tried posting the picture but the image is massive when I post it here, here is the link to it

http://imgur.com/KKfHuKD

Its possible that the diaphragm behind the larger nut at the top of the valve needs to be changed. This will involve turning off the water supply and carefully taking things apart and putting them back together again.
Alternatively, you could change out the complete valve with a fluidmaster filling valve and the job would be more successful.

vicwatson

That's the valve on the right of the picture? That holds the arm and ball up?

Is this what I need? http://www.fluidmaster.com/our-products/toilet-fill-valves-toilet-parts/toilet-fill-valve.html

And does that get rid of the arm and ball then?

Questions questions, thanks for help

K.Flyer

vicwatson wrote: »

That's the valve on the right of the picture? That holds the arm and ball up?

Is this what I need? http://www.fluidmaster.com/our-products/toilet-fill-valves-toilet-parts/toilet-fill-valve.html

And does that get rid of the arm and ball then?

Questions questions, thanks for help

No problem, the answer is Yes to all of your questions.
To be honest I rarely fit any other valve into a cistern.
When you go to buy one it is worth the trouble of getting the one with the brass shank (model number "Pro45B") less chance of cross threading and its much stronger than the plastic version.
Hope that helps you out.

Sleeper12

K.Flyer wrote: »

No problem, the answer is Yes to all of your questions.
To be honest I rarely fit any other valve into a cistern.
When you go to buy one it is worth the trouble of getting the one with the brass shank (model number "Pro45B") less chance of cross threading and its much stronger than the plastic version.
Hope that helps you out.

I use Torbec but looks exactly the same.

K.Flyer

I've had too many problems with Torbec, even brand new ones, never had a call back with FluidMaster. (Yet)

vicwatson

K.Flyer wrote: »

No problem, the answer is Yes to all of your questions.
To be honest I rarely fit any other valve into a cistern.
When you go to buy one it is worth the trouble of getting the one with the brass shank (model number "Pro45B") less chance of cross threading and its much stronger than the plastic version.
Hope that helps you out.

Is this is the one I need with the brass shank? -

Will this work ok for a cistern where the flush buttons are on top built into the cistern lid?

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-brass-shank-bottom-entry-fill-valve/47792#

Is this the cheapest/best place to buy it online? Delivery costs Stg 20.00 with this company (total cost stg 35.00), maybe it's cheaper to buy locally, what can I expect to pay?

Thanks again it's very much appreciated, I'm sort of making this a challenge for myself now. Thanks to the fitter there is no on/off tap on the water supply pipe so have to know off the water at the entry point to the house and drain it:(

goldenhoarde

vicwatson wrote: »

Is this is the one I need with the brass shank? -

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-brass-shank-bottom-entry-fill-valve/47792#

Is this the cheapest/best place to buy it online? Delivery costs Stg 20.00 with this company (total cost stg 35.00), maybe it's cheaper to buy locally, what can I expect to pay?

Thanks again it's very much appreciated, I'm sort of making this a challenge for myself now. Thanks to the fitter there is no on/off tap on the water supply pipe so have to know off the water at the entry point to the house and drain it:(

Use parcelmotel for the delivery @ 4 euro :)

vicwatson

Thanks but would prefer to buy locally i.e. Ireland online

In anyhow I think that Stg 20.00 is for delivery to UK anyway :eek:

K.Flyer

vicwatson wrote: »

Is this is the one I need with the brass shank? -

Will this work ok for a cistern where the flush buttons are on top built into the cistern lid?

http://www.screwfix.com/p/fluidmaster-brass-shank-bottom-entry-fill-valve/47792#

Is this the cheapest/best place to buy it online? Delivery costs Stg 20.00 with this company (total cost stg 35.00), maybe it's cheaper to buy locally, what can I expect to pay?

Thanks again it's very much appreciated, I'm sort of making this a challenge for myself now. Thanks to the fitter there is no on/off tap on the water supply pipe so have to know off the water at the entry point to the house and drain it:(

Thats the one all right. What part of the country are you located, it certainly won't cost you the equivalent of £30.00 here.
There should be a valve in the hot press to turn off the supply, unless its mains water fed, then just turn of the main water valve.

vicwatson

Feckin Jacks's !! I'm now having a problem with another toilet in that although it will fill, it's taking about 24 hours to do so. Used to be fine and this just started happening, anyone know what the problem might be here? Thanks in advance