Strawman

duffman13

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

longshanks

I have a friend called the Strawman, he's a fucking legend, it obviously stems from him.

dxhound2005

duffman13 wrote: »

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

Ad hominem.

Retrovertigo

It's when someone Worzel Gummidges.

thelad95

duffman13 wrote: »

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

Strawman

Rabbo

Typical strawman argument from the OP.

dharma200

No such thing as a true scotsman

rockbeast

A Strawman is a hipster Scarecrow.

Herb Powell

duffman13 wrote: »

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

It's either a) when someone uses an argument against a hypothetical argument y, to refute an argument x which was presented by someone (argument y is an exaggerated/bull**** form or variation of argument x, sometimes completely unrelated)

or quite often b) what someone says when they're running out of arguments and wants to sound smart, or wants to avoid the topic at hand.

solomafioso

The beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU

Sulla Felix

duffman13 wrote: »

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

If it was good enough for Aristotle, it's good enough for you OP. :mad:

duffman13

Sulla Felix wrote: »

If it was good enough for Aristotle, it's good enough for you OP. :mad:

Strawman ^

bnt

The full version goes something like "to build a man of straw then knock it down". You put forward an argument, someone else puts together a shoddy version of it then attacks that version of your argument. Major derailment of the thread usually ensues.

Tail Docker

I asked a lad in McDonalds the other day, "give me a straw, man" and instead of a handy plastic tube for sucking up beverages, he started ranting about how all Public servants were on the dole in all but name..

jimgoose

solomafioso wrote: »

The beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

The fact that that is The Wicker Man and not a Strawman, is itself a Strawman. So now I am going to curl up in a corner and gibber very softly for a little while.

ManofStraw

longshanks wrote: »

I have a friend called the Strawman, he's a fucking legend, it obviously stems from him.

Cheers

solomafioso

jimgoose wrote: »

The fact that that is The Wicker Man and not a Strawman, is itself a Strawman. So now I am going to curl up in a corner and gibber very softly for a little while.

"Hearsay and conjecture are forms of evidence your honour!"

Sulla Felix

duffman13 wrote: »

Strawman ^

That's the spirit!

fineso.mom

duffman13 wrote: »

I have seen people accusing others of being a strawman or putting forward strawman arguments! Where has this expression come from? I have only seen it over the last couple of weeks but it's getting pretty annoying. With some people in an a debate bowing out of a discussion accusing someone of having a strawman argument. Anyone who quotes a whole post and just writes "strawman" underneath should be banned for crimes against boards!!!

Oh right, so you think anyone who suggests someones counter argument may be exaggerated and calls them a strawman should be banned from boards,then taken out and shot in front of their families and their bodies hung ,drawn and quartered ?....just because it annoys you ??
Well aren't you short of things to be annoyed about.

Banjo String

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2dOo5Z9dsk

Voltex

..I also always thought the straw man was a corollary of the wickerman.

DEFTLEFTHAND

What about whataboutery?

B.A._Baracus

I've seen people use that strawman thing on here.

I just don't get it. Comes off as as a person who disagrees with anothers opinion so bad that they want to be right and say any old thing.
It's just a poncey word for the term I think you are talking through your backside

4Sticks

Spiderman would beat Strawman in a fight any day.
How can you say otherwise OP ?

Filmer Paradise

Round or square bales?

How much?

These are the questions to ask the mythical Strawman.

JustAddWater

Tail Docker wrote: »

I asked a lad in McDonalds the other day, "give me a straw, man" and instead of a handy plastic tube for sucking up beverages, he started ranting about how all Public servants were on the dole in all but name..

And said.... "That was the last straw. Man"

Tail Docker

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

Round or square bales?

How much?

These are the questions to ask the mythical Strawman.

Don't forget net or twine. And good, well stuffed bales saved without rain.

hju6

Tail Docker wrote: »

Don't forget net or twine. And good, well stuffed bales saved without rain.

Blue or red twine, what's in fashion now
In the 80s my belt less trench coat had red twine

Could I still wear the trench coat with red twine, or should I invest in the "new blue"

osarusan

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I just don't get it. Comes off as as a person who disagrees with anothers opinion so bad that they want to be right and say any old thing.
It's just a poncey word for the term I think you are talking through your backside

So you're saying that anybody who uses the word is a big fat smelly moron? That's ridiculous.

Tail Docker

hju6 wrote: »

Blue or red twine, what's in fashion now
In the 80s my belt less trench coat had red twine

Could I still wear the trench coat with red twine, or should I invest in the "new blue"

It's all blue now. The red went with the corncrake.

Elegant Elliot Offen

Its a last ditch effort to sound smart when you're losing.

Just shout strawman, highlight some text and hope for the best.

If that doesn't work try the same with logical fallacy.

Hip sounding > correct.

EyeSight

solomafioso wrote: »

The beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU

Wicker != straw. Common mistake

B.A._Baracus

osarusan wrote: »

So you're saying that anybody who uses the word is a big fat smelly moron? That's ridiculous.

why did you edit out the homosexual bit? lol.

Turtwig

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What about whataboutery?

What about whataboutery?

djerk

quite a few sayings banging around the boards that feckin irritate me to no end..

the onus is on..
PC..
smacks of..
totes morto..
etc etc

they all make me cringe

Resonator75

Its for when TWOTS like me want to stump simpletons. They pretend they know wheat I mean and the generally wander off perplexed by my obvious intellectual superiority. Get out of my way peasants.

foxy farmer

Tail Docker wrote: »

It's all blue now. The red went with the corncrake.

The yellow went out with the high bicycle!