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Clearing out an old drain

  • 15-07-2014 8:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭


    I was wondering if anybody can throw a ballpark figure on clearing out a drain at the back of a field i own?
    Its about 120m long & it runs into a river/stream...
    In wet months the back of my field gets quite wet, I'd be hoping cleaning out the drain will help?
    The adjoining field is about 3ft lower than mine and it floods in the wet months and the flood can extend into my field...

    Mod - if this is in the wrong section, please redirect as you see fit


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Arddon wrote: »
    I was wondering if anybody can throw a ballpark figure on clearing out a drain at the back of a field i own?
    Its about 120m long & it runs into a river/stream...
    In wet months the back of my field gets quite wet, I'd be hoping cleaning out the drain will help?
    The adjoining field is about 3ft lower than mine and it floods in the wet months and the flood can extend into my field...

    Mod - if this is in the wrong section, please redirect as you see fit

    5-600 euro at most and I am allowing for it to be considered a small job. A track machine would clean it in a day I imagine unless a lot of spoil has to be moved spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    5-600 euro at most and I am allowing for it to be considered a small job. A track machine would clean it in a day I imagine unless a lot of spoil has to be moved spread.

    Must have very slow drivers round you, 3-4 hours would clean it @ €35/hour + vat. :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    td5man wrote: »
    Must have very slow drivers round you, 3-4 hours would clean it @ €35/hour + vat. :-)


    But most lads look for 8 hours.

    It'd be no harm to put some shores into the drain, once it's cleaned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    td5man wrote: »
    Must have very slow drivers round you, 3-4 hours would clean it @ €35/hour + vat. :-)

    You would find it very hard to get a trackmachine on site for less than 500 euro work. Most want 2-3 days work as it takes maybe 2-3 hours to move a machine. If ground is dry at present a backhoe may be able to do it however he will mark the ground around,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    You would find it very hard to get a trackmachine on site for less than 500 euro work. Most want 2-3 days work as it takes maybe 2-3 hours to move a machine. If ground is dry at present a backhoe may be able to do it however he will mark the ground around,

    I'd do it for that hourly rate and I'd be asked back again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    td5man wrote: »
    I'd do it for that hourly rate and I'd be asked back again.

    same with my local lad with the ex 120. Will come do a few hours work. He only pulled up stumps of trees my 3ton was not able to do. And swapped 2 12ft gang slats around.

    Ask him for a price to do the job. Might be glad of it and been paid going out the gate. Think the ex120 was €35 plus vat (Claim it back on vat58)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    td5man wrote: »
    I'd do it for that hourly rate and I'd be asked back again.
    same with my local lad with the ex 120. Will come do a few hours work. He only pulled up stumps of trees my 3ton was not able to do. And swapped 2 12ft gang slats around.

    Ask him for a price to do the job. Might be glad of it and been paid going out the gate. Think the ex120 was €35 plus vat (Claim it back on vat58)

    My own lad is much the same 40 including vat but get a bit every year and has no issue doing 3-4 hours work. However all are not the same and it may be hard to get lad at first attemot. I have got rid of 1 or 2 as you had to be there all the time with them which is no use as i work.

    If Op has another bit of work to bring it up to 8-10 hours it may cost only the same,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭milkprofit


    td5man wrote: »
    Must have very slow drivers round you, 3-4 hours would clean it @ €35/hour + vat. :-)
    Does it only need cleaning or does it need deping ---into hard ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    milkprofit wrote: »
    Does it only need cleaning or does it need deping ---into hard ground

    Hard to say from here, but the op said it needed to be cleaned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Arddon


    Thanks for all the replies,i'd no ideas what to expect, at least now I know what worst case should be

    Not too sure if it requires further work, I'm just reckoning that if I clean it out, it's full of grass, reeds, old pailing, it'd stop my land getting wet and anything that drained into it would have a path to the stream to flow away....

    Sounds simple but maybe I'm missing something


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Be absolutely sure before you wet a bucket that you are not going to breach any environmental legislation.
    Without knowing the specific watercourse, it may be subject to various legislation. Eg. It could be part of an SAC etc. It may also be subject to open/closed season.
    Just another angle to be thinking about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Be absolutely sure before you wet a bucket that you are not going to breach any environmental legislation.
    Without knowing the specific watercourse, it may be subject to various legislation. Eg. It could be part of an SAC etc. It may also be subject to open/closed season.
    Just another angle to be thinking about!

    Where would you get more information on this.
    Would there be any where in my area that I need to know about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    td5man wrote: »
    Where would you get more information on this.
    Would there be any where in my area that I need to know about?

    Inland Fisheries Ireland and OPW (to a lesser extent) .
    Salmonid waters (ie waters capable of carrying trout/ salmon) would have legal requirements. Europe are pushing us down the pathway too with Water Framework Directive requirements. Even silty, slow flowing drains may contain the likes of Brook Lamprey which are subject to the same protection as afforded to Salmonids.

    I'm not saying for a second this is the case with the OP's drain, but who knows!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Arddon wrote: »
    Thanks for all the replies,i'd no ideas what to expect, at least now I know what worst case should be

    Not too sure if it requires further work, I'm just reckoning that if I clean it out, it's full of grass, reeds, old pailing, it'd stop my land getting wet and anything that drained into it would have a path to the stream to flow away....

    Sounds simple but maybe I'm missing something

    The last drains I did I got the material taken away with a dumper. So two machines needed. Afterwards then put an electric fence along top to keep stock out.


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