Advantage rule in GAA

nice_guy80

I had an argument with a local GAA official over the weekend about the advantage rule in games.
I was adamant that the rules for football and hurling are different.

In football the referee can bring back the play after 5 seconds and award a free if there is no advantage accruing to the fouled team, he holds up his hand to indicate advantage

In hurling the referee holds up his hand to indicate advantage but cannot call play back to give a free.

The official said I was deluded!

Any rules experts out there?

dirkmeister

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-sense-to-hurling-missing-out-on-advantage-rule-29733589.html

It seems that you are correct.

Deskjockey

dirkmeister wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/no-sense-to-hurling-missing-out-on-advantage-rule-29733589.html

It seems that you are correct.

Reading that article it appears that this rule will be brought in on 1 January 2015, so as things stand the official was right

beggars_bush

In current games though?

dirkmeister

Deskjockey wrote: »

Reading that article it appears that this rule will be brought in on 1 January 2015, so as things stand the official was right

Where do you see that?

From what I make out the article was written last November and Breheny says it's from next January which I take to mean January 2014.

Hidalgo

My understanding is the ref can't bring back play in hurling as in football.
I remamber when the rule came in for football Brian Gavin (intercounty hurling ref) argued that it should also apply in hurling.
He used an example from last years drawn All Ireland which he reffed. Clare full back had possession. He got a chop on the wrist. Gavin had his arm out allowing play to continue, Clare full back proceeds to overcarry the ball and Gavin blows for a free in to Cork.
Gavin later used the above example as to why an advantage rule is needed in hurling.

djPSB

There isn't really any such thing as an advantage in hurling unless there's a goal on.

A free within 80 or 90 yards is scoreable in hurling. I'd much rather the free and puck it over the bar than be allowed play on.

KrustyUCC

it was in munster final program yesterday

different games different rules

you are correct nice_guy80

nice_guy80

I knew it!!!!!

that means a load of our recent club hurling games were refereed incorrectly

Mal-Adjusted

nice_guy80 wrote: »

In hurling the referee holds up his hand to indicate advantage but cannot call play back to give a free.

I saw a ref do this a few weeks ago, thought it was an odd thing to do.

Kavrocks

nice_guy80 wrote: »

that means a load of our recent club hurling games were refereed incorrectly

Referee's are just human, they make mistakes. People should be more lenient towards referee's. Its not an easy job to do, hence the shortage of Inter-County referee's and the Allianz Primary Whistler's Initiative.

Whilst you are correct in your interpretation of the rule here, a lot of people often think their game has been refereed incorrectly as they are looking at the game through rose tinted glasses (whether they admit it or not).

nice_guy80

Kavrocks wrote: »

Referee's are just human, they make mistakes. People should be more lenient towards referee's. Its not an easy job to do, hence the shortage of Inter-County referee's and the Allianz Primary Whistler's Initiative.

Whilst you are correct in your interpretation of the rule here, a lot of people often think their game has been refereed incorrectly as they are looking at the game through rose tinted glasses (whether they admit it or not).

Nope.
I don't have a gripe.
It'd be nice for the referees to know the rules and implement them properly and keep up with the play.

That's all most players want.

Hidalgo

Refs are in a tough predicament at the minute without an advantage rule like football.
If a ref blows every time a free is committed he gets complaints about not letting the game flow. As it is most try and play advantage to keep the game moving. Problem is though if no advantage is accruing the ref can't bring back play.

Kavrocks

nice_guy80 wrote: »

It'd be nice for the referees to know the rules and implement them properly and keep up with the play.

That's completely missing my point though.

nice_guy80

Kavrocks wrote: »

That's completely missing my point though.

As in being human? Or not knowing the rules?

Kavrocks

nice_guy80 wrote: »

As in being human? Or not knowing the rules?

Human and perspective.