Anyone look to Eastern Europe for land?

sheebadog

As it says above.

mahoney_j

I've been looking at 80 acres outside my ditch going to sh1t for the last 6 years ,about as far as I've got!!!.

freedominacup

sheebadog wrote: »

As it says above.

Have you a plan? I'm all ears.

sheebadog

mahoney_j wrote: »

I've been looking at 80 acres outside my ditch going to sh1t for the last 6 years ,about as far as I've got!!!.

Go on Mahoney, you're not getting any younger!

Btw you're well able.

sheebadog

freedominacup wrote: »

Have you a plan? I'm all ears.

Looked at a nice plot.

J.V. Mixed. Tillage+Dairy.

mahoney_j

sheebadog wrote: »

Go on Mahoney, you're not getting any younger!

Btw you're well able.

Sick of trying Sheba andvits a next door neighbour who would be friendly enough with my sad and his family ,a very stubborn and black and whit individual who last time I brought up subject more or less gave me an answer of why do u want it ,you have enough and do u think I can't farm it myself.was a top dairy farm up to 12 years ago and guys mother died and then he had a liver transplant after that cows went,he lost interest,yard gone to pot and keeps 50 cattle on it.theyvroam from obe field to next 12 months of year and occasionally mibe and neighbours.its not worth falling out over,even though he has 4 kids and first are starting college this year.ive a funny feeling he may come calling some day as he can't be making much from it as it is.5 years ago I offered 200 an acre for 45 acres directly over ditch ,all to be reseeded ,waterd and ditches tideyed up but I wanted a 7 to 10 year lease.turned down flat

darragh_haven

Involved in a collective that is thrashing about in Poland, purchasing/long term lease. Still about a year from actual purchase I'd say. I'm a very minor stake holder.

sheebadog

darragh_haven wrote: »

Involved in a collective that is thrashing about in Poland, purchasing/long term lease. Still about a year from actual purchase I'd say. I'm a very minor stake holder.

Scale?

sheebadog

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sick of trying Sheba andvits a next door neighbour who would be friendly enough with my sad and his family ,a very stubborn and black and whit individual who last time I brought up subject more or less gave me an answer of why do u want it ,you have enough and do u think I can't farm it myself.was a top dairy farm up to 12 years ago and guys mother died and then he had a liver transplant after that cows went,he lost interest,yard gone to pot and keeps 50 cattle on it.theyvroam from obe field to next 12 months of year and occasionally mibe and neighbours.its not worth falling out over,even though he has 4 kids and first are starting college this year.ive a funny feeling he may come calling some day as he can't be making much from it as it is.5 years ago I offered 200 an acre for 45 acres directly over ditch ,all to be reseeded ,waterd and ditches tideyed up but I wanted a 7 to 10 year lease.turned down flat

Maybe make him a partner?

Give him dignity.

It's not all about you, ya know.

Timmaay

sheebadog wrote: »

Looked at a nice plot.

J.V. Mixed. Tillage+Dairy.

How far East? Biggest problem I've heard of over there is corruption. Stories of say afew thousand acres of tillage ready to be harvested, and someone else sends in afew combines during the night and lifts it. In terms of milk then, what about processing it? How fair is it practical to send a lorry load of liquid milk? Land is supposed to be very cheap over there now, with thousands of acres lying idle? Combined that with cheap labour and I can see the huge appeal. Does grass grow consistently anywhere there??

mahoney_j

sheebadog wrote: »

Maybe make him a partner?

Give him dignity.

It's not all about you, ya know.

Have to say never thought of that real thinking outside the box comment ,thanks.he would if he went for it be just an equity partner ,which would be a good thing for me.no way he'd be up at 6.30 on a cold wet feb morning calving and milking !!.sorry for hijacking thread ,back on topic!!!

Lano Lynn

r u gettin itchy feet?
probably lots of cheap ground in ukraine:rolleyes:
pretty much every where is east of here:D
but france would be as far as I would go east of here

mf240

mahoney_j wrote: »

Sick of trying Sheba andvits a next door neighbour who would be friendly enough with my sad and his family ,a very stubborn and black and whit individual who last time I brought up subject more or less gave me an answer of why do u want it ,you have enough and do u think I can't farm it myself.was a top dairy farm up to 12 years ago and guys mother died and then he had a liver transplant after that cows went,he lost interest,yard gone to pot and keeps 50 cattle on it.theyvroam from obe field to next 12 months of year and occasionally mibe and neighbours.its not worth falling out over,even though he has 4 kids and first are starting college this year.ive a funny feeling he may come calling some day as he can't be making much from it as it is.5 years ago I offered 200 an acre for 45 acres directly over ditch ,all to be reseeded ,waterd and ditches tideyed up but I wanted a 7 to 10 year lease.turned down flat

Mahoney dont take this the wrong way. But its his land to do with as he pleases. I wouldnt like to ask someone to sell their land just out of the blue.

darragh_haven

sheebadog wrote: »

Scale?

1600 to 1800 cow unit. All land to produce fodder to be secured, approximately 60% purchase, 40% contract

Edit: I'm the only irish person involved. Don't have much money but I'm being carried for a specific skill set.

micraX

Bergins from north county Dublin moved out to Poland a few years ago, they grow spuds on contract for MacDonalds, osr and cereals they brought all the machinery over with them. Ground is ment to be like 20euro an acre to rent.

mahoney_j

mf240 wrote: »

Mahoney dont take this the wrong way. But its his land to do with as he pleases. I wouldnt like to ask someone to sell their land just out of the blue.

100% agree that's why I ain't pushing bit no further.

sheebadog

mahoney_j wrote: »

Have to say never thought of that real thinking outside the box comment ,thanks.he would if he went for it be just an equity partner ,which would be a good thing for me.no way he'd be up at 6.30 on a cold wet feb morning calving and milking !!.sorry for hijacking thread ,back on topic!!!

Anyone can be a partner. Your call.
I do it all the time to tie them down.
Your enthusiasm is .........,,,,....
Your unique selling point.

sheebadog

darragh_haven wrote: »

1600 to 1800 cow unit. All land to produce fodder to be secured, approximately 60% purchase, 40% contract

Edit: I'm the only irish person involved. Don't have much money but I'm being carried for a specific skill set.

Good for you.

sheebadog

Anyone??
Jayzee lads anyone at all?

sheebadog

Timmaay wrote: »

How far East? Biggest problem I've heard of over there is corruption. Stories of say afew thousand acres of tillage ready to be harvested, and someone else sends in afew combines during the night and lifts it. In terms of milk then, what about processing it? How fair is it practical to send a lorry load of liquid milk? Land is supposed to be very cheap over there now, with thousands of acres lying idle? Combined that with cheap labour and I can see the huge appeal. Does grass grow consistently anywhere there??

Jeez Tim!! Does grass grow
Consistently?
Back to geography class.

Timmaay

sheebadog wrote: »

Jeez Tim!! Does grass grow
Consistently?
Back to geography class.

Ha ah now I'm a one trick pony. Anyways are ya looking for partners or what?

sheebadog

Timmaay wrote: »

Ha ah now I'm a one trick pony. Anyways are ya looking for partners or what?

Info.

GRASSorMUCK

Have done a trip with a certain German combine company in Hungary and know a few guys with part shares in big farms, know of guys Irish and Uk who worked there with likes of Myria(local mob) and continental farmers amongst others. Reading magazines read of super big farms but can't see how you could manage it as some of the stories are mad, just keeping guys driving not parked up to drink vodka at night seems impossible and then stories of just filling sprayer with water as they sold your chemical off the back of a lorry job

sheebadog

GRASSorMUCK wrote: »

Have done a trip with a certain German combine company in Hungary and know a few guys with part shares in big farms, know of guys Irish and Uk who worked there with likes of Myria(local mob) and continental farmers amongst others. Reading magazines read of super big farms but can't see how you could manage it as some of the stories are mad, just keeping guys driving not parked up to drink vodka at night seems impossible and then stories of just filling sprayer with water as they sold your chemical off the back of a lorry job

Thanks for informative reply.

darragh_haven

GRASSorMUCK wrote: »

Have done a trip with a certain German combine company in Hungary and know a few guys with part shares in big farms, know of guys Irish and Uk who worked there with likes of Myria(local mob) and continental farmers amongst others. Reading magazines read of super big farms but can't see how you could manage it as some of the stories are mad, just keeping guys driving not parked up to drink vodka at night seems impossible and then stories of just filling sprayer with water as they sold your chemical off the back of a lorry job

2 of the members involved in our group are locals. One ex local politician, the other knows local business "techniques"
You cannot go hung Ho into a place with out local approval.

Genghis Cant

We had a poster on here from that neck of the woods. I'd be very interested to hear his opinion.

GRASSorMUCK

darragh_haven wrote: »

2 of the members involved in our group are locals. One ex local politician, the other knows local business "techniques"
You cannot go hung Ho into a place with out local approval.

Ay, one of the guys i spoke to about it likes to tell about having some local 'buisness' men mind the machinery at night with certain 'payments' or else no one would turn up for work and all the fuel would disapear like the angles share :rolleyes:.

keep going

Wi was in the cech republic about a dozen years ago and one of the big problems was credit terms, you paid for everything on delivery but you got paid for last years crop when you supplied this years crop or with milk 3 to 6 months later and not at all if you moved processor, whats it like doing bissiness in the xeastern block countries now