Vhannibal Settings. Lamedb or Satellites.xml

iba

Hi,

Installed the latest Apollo 15 image last night but all the settings in the Plugin Feeds are missing bar one.

I normally use Vhannibal motor settings so I am trying to upload it to the box manually. But as usual I'm stuck.

I am using DreamsetEdit rather than DreamboxEdit cause the latter is not working on my laptop at the moment (something that I am trying to fix).

I downlaoded the Vhannibal settings and opened it up in DreamsetEdit but do I upload the lamedb file or the Satellites.xml file please?

STB

Open the lamedb (if its your old list) and then write to the box (transfer). It will write over the existing bouquets on the box. Is that what you want to do ?

Have you used Dreamset before ?

iba

STB wrote: »

Open the lamedb (if its your old list) and then write to the box (transfer). It will write over the existing bouquets on the box. Is that what you want to do ?

Have you used Dreamset before ?

Hi STB,

No I have never used DreamsetEdit or even DreamboxEdit - it is on my list of things to learn so that I can copy you and have my STB sync. with KingofSat, but that is for later.

I downloaded the Vhannibal Motor setting from here:

http://www.vhannibal.net/

Then I setup DreamsetEdit so that it is connected to my STB.

Then I clicked on 'open' in DreamsetEdit and then I opened the Vhannibal file (as in the screen shot) but was not sure whether to click on 'lamedb' or 'satellites xml'

Then I thought I just click on the 'transfer' button.

So the 'lamedb' is not an old list (it has not come from my STB), it is downloaded from the above link.

So do I just click on this 'lamedb' file and click transfer?

Cheers

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Hi STB,

No I have never used DreamsetEdit or even DreamboxEdit - it is on my list of things to learn so that I can copy you and have my STB sync. with KingofSat, but that is for later.

I downloaded the Vhannibal Motor setting from here:

http://www.vhannibal.net/

Then I setup DreamsetEdit so that it is connected to my STB.

Then I clicked on 'open' in DreamsetEdit and then I opened the Vhannibal file (as in the screen shot) but was not sure whether to click on 'lamedb' or 'satellites xml'

Then I thought I just click on the 'transfer' button.

So the 'lamedb' is not an old list (it has not come from my STB), it is downloaded from the above link.

So do I just click on this 'lamedb' file and click transfer?

Cheers

Open lamedb in Dreamset (the default should've only given you this option).

If you wish to change anything about the bouquets lists in VHannibal you now have the screen to do so.

When you're finished hit transfer.

GY A1

they also have apollo 19 today

iba

Was trying to make some changes to the channels in DreamsetEdit but I am not doing something right.

I transferred the stations from the STB to PC, made some changes and transferred back to STB. But the layout of the stations on the box have not changed.

On DreamsetEdit the layout of the stations show BBC1, BBC2, BBC 3 and BBC 4 being at the top of the list (1st attachment)

But on the STB they show BBC1 as the 1st channell followed by ITV and Channell 4 (2nd attachment)

So what have I done wrong/missed so that they look like the layout on DreamsetEdit?

Note, the transfer to the box has successfully taken place. I know this because ust now when I transferred the stations from the STB to my PC they aperaed in the same order as in the DreamsetEdit image.

Cheers

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Cheers

Did you reboot?

iba

radiowaves wrote: »

Did you reboot?

Yes, turned power off and everything

iba

Is it anything to do with me using AutoBouquet E2 Vhannibal Motor Settings rather than AutoBouquet Maker?

Should I use AutoBouquet Maker instead, although I do not really understand the difference between it and AutoBouquet E2 and which one is better to use for a motorised system.

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Is it anything to do with me using AutoBouquet E2 Vhannibal Motor Settings rather than AutoBouquet Maker?

Should I use AutoBouquet Maker instead, although I do not really understand the difference between it and AutoBouquet E2 and which one is better to use for a motorised system.

Probably has something to do with it mate,

Don't use auto-bouquets so couldn't say for sure.

fat-tony

@iba - I don't use DreamSetEdit, but occasionally use DreamBoxEdit(DBE). You need to have a setting ticked that says "auto reload E2 settings" or "reload settings on Dreambox" or similar. After you make changes to lamedb or edit the bouquet files you need to tell Enigma to refresh its cached copy of the data. I think this is the default setting in DBE. Otherwise, when you reboot the box, Enigma just saves its cached copy and overwrites your changes, but this is only if you haven't got the settings correct.

There's not a lot of point in editing either ABM's bouquet files or AB E2 files, though, because once you run either of them the next time they will wipe out your changes. Either stick to manual edits of the bouquets and lamedb or else let the automated scans do their thing.

radiowaves

fat-tony wrote: »

@iba - I don't use DreamSetEdit, but occasionally use DreamBoxEdit(DBE). You need to have a setting ticked that says "auto reload E2 settings" or "reload settings on Dreambox" or similar. After you make changes to lamedb or edit the bouquet files you need to tell Enigma to refresh its cached copy of the data. I think this is the default setting in DBE. Otherwise, when you reboot the box, Enigma just saves its cached copy and overwrites your changes, but this is only if you haven't got the settings correct.

There's not a lot of point in editing either ABM's bouquet files or AB E2 files, though, because once you run either of them the next time they will wipe out your changes. Either stick to manual edits of the bouquets and lamedb or else let the automated scans do their thing.

All auto-reload does is prevent the need for a reboot of the receiver

Rebooting the GUI or the receiver changes the settings once they've been uploaded.

If the receiver IBA is using might do things differently it shouldn't.

Manual reload = reboot of GUI or receiver.

Auto reload = no need for reboot.

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

@iba - I don't use DreamSetEdit, but occasionally use DreamBoxEdit(DBE). You need to have a setting ticked that says "auto reload E2 settings" or "reload settings on Dreambox" or similar. After you make changes to lamedb or edit the bouquet files you need to tell Enigma to refresh its cached copy of the data. I think this is the default setting in DBE. Otherwise, when you reboot the box, Enigma just saves its cached copy and overwrites your changes, but this is only if you haven't got the settings correct.

There's not a lot of point in editing either ABM's bouquet files or AB E2 files, though, because once you run either of them the next time they will wipe out your changes. Either stick to manual edits of the bouquets and lamedb or else let the automated scans do their thing.

Hi Fat-Tony,

Is 'auto reload E2 settings' or 'reload settings on Dreambox' or similar a setting that I will find in DreamsetEdit or a setting in Vix?

I found this in setup/preferences in DreamsetEdit but it did not make a difference 'auto udate when saving to disk or write to receiver the settings'.

Either way, you say that there is not much point in me editing these lists anyway cause they will just get overwritten next time Autobouquet E2 updates.

Ok, so you also say 'manual edits of bouquets' - ok, so this sounds like what I need to do to get what I want which is get rid of sats that I cannot tune in at all eg 30e, 33e, 36e, 39e (can't get them cause of line of sight) and arrange channels on Astra 28e in particular, in my preferred order. And then have KingofSat update things.

So if this is possible, how do I go about doing it (sorry that I am not understanding very well how to do this).

Cheers

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Hi Fat-Tony,

Is 'auto reload E2 settings' or 'reload settings on Dreambox' or similar a setting that I will find in DreamsetEdit or a setting in Vix?

I found this in setup/preferences in DreamsetEdit but it did not make a difference 'auto udate when saving to disk or write to receiver the settings'.

It's the same thing and, as I've advised, it's the same as rebooting. It was established days ago this didn't work

Without a bouquet editing program to send over any changes to update the receiver's settings you'd need to restart the interface. When using a pc program such as Dreamset the program (AUTOmatically) does it for you.

Moving on - why do you have auto-bouquets if you're using a manual bouquet editor?

Surely you either allow the automatic program to edit your bouquets - or you edit them yourself. I can't see how they can work in tandem, but am probably wrong there.

Have you tried disabling auto-bouquets and then sending over your edits?

iba

radiowaves wrote: »

It's the same thing and, as I've advised, it's the same as rebooting. It was established days ago this didn't work

Without a bouquet editing program to send over any changes to update the receiver's settings you'd need to restart the interface. When using a pc program such as Dreamset the program (AUTOmatically) does it for you.

Moving on - why do you have auto-bouquets if you're using a manual bouquet editor?

Surely you either allow the automatic program to edit your bouquets - or you edit them yourself. I can't see how they can work in tandem, but am probably wrong there.

Have you tried disabling auto-bouquets and then sending over your edits?

Hi Radiowaves,

Thanks for your reply.

To answer your question, why do you have Autobouquets E2 when I'm using a manual bouquet editor - well because I have no clue what I am doing

But I understand now, from what you wrote, (and from what Fat-Tony wrote earlier) that I should not be trying to editing the automatic bouquets because the automatic ones will just overwrite any changes I make anyway.

Ok, disable Autobouquet E2 - I suppose to do this, I should uninstall the Plugin.

But I am not going to do that at the moment because obviously I am going about this totally in the wrong way.

But I do not understand/know what is the best way to go about doing this.

Regards

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Hi Radiowaves,

Thanks for your reply.

To answer your question, why do you have Autobouquets E2 when I'm using a manual bouquet editor - well because I have no clue what I am doing

But I understand now, from what you wrote, (and from what Fat-Tony wrote earlier) that I should not be trying to editing the automatic bouquets because the automatic ones will just overwrite any changes I make anyway.

Ok, disable Autobouquet E2 - I suppose to do this, I should uninstall the Plugin.

But I am not going to do that at the moment because obviously I am going about this totally in the wrong way.

But I do not understand/know what is the best way to go about doing this.

Regards

You're welcome - we're all just trying to get you sorted mate (albeit with different approaches).

There has to be an option to disable Autobouquets from running. If it's not obvious or doesn't exist I would even advise uninstalling it. If it won't let you disable it there's something inherently wrong with it anyway.

Changes to transponders on the major sats are rare (I have seen questions from guys missing channels for days and says - if they updated their bouquets manually they'd make the changes in minutes). That's the reason for autobouquet makers, to push the updates on you automatically - fine if that's what you require.

My advise is to come from the other direction - learn as you go along. Then if you want things automated you at least know what's happening.

For now you have an upto date transponder list.

Disable or uninstall auto-bouquet maker.

Use Dreamset to order your channels how you please and to remove the sats you can neither get or want.

Upload using the auto-update function and see how it looks.

You can put auto-bouquet maker back on if it all gets too much

fat-tony

@iba - I'd echo what @radiowaves is saying. Once you have a working bouquet list for 28.2 edited with whatever editor you choose it should be good until a channel changes frequency or a new one added/deleted etc.

As regards ABM. This only runs when you select scan in its menu or if you have it set in expert settings to run each day at a specific time. Same for Lraizer's E2 Autobouquets. If you don't have a start time in either menu then they will not run unless you start them manually. It would probably be better just to use DSE or DBE to edit the bouquets. If you have a lot of listings for satellites you can't receive, then they were put there by Vhannibal's list almost certainly. Normally the lamedb (list of all channels) is empty on a fresh flash and is only populated when you scan satellite or terrestrial transponders/multiplexes. ABM will generate lamedb entries when it runs. You could start from scratch and do a manual scan of 28.2 and play around with DSE to create your own bouquets.

radiowaves

Couldn't agree more with Tony. Start with the basics and then work up to adding plugins and tools to automate your box if that's what suits.

I'm hands on - almost prefer playing than watching.