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Assault on a 9 months pregnant woman at her home.

  • 11-07-2014 5:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    Myself and my wife who is now just days away from birth were assaulted in our home.
    The attackers live upstairs from us in an apartment block
    (we are on a ground floor with balcony door leading right to common green area used now by the attackers to look at us trough the blinds).
    Attack happened on monday the 7th of july 2014.
    Most of it was filmed on a mobile phone.
    Guards were called after the whole incident, and only arrived a long time.
    We have given the description of the incident and there was nothing done after that on the day.
    Same Gardai came back the next day to take the official statement.
    We now encounter daily abuse and provocations from the couple upstairs, threats etc.
    My wife is so stressed she refuses to leave the apartment and I carry a hammer on my way to work.
    The whole situation is just beyond ridiculous and I have no help from anyone.
    We are desperately trying to find new accommodation but there is nothing to rent now that we could afford...
    What can I do now to protect my wife and our unborn child?
    HELP NEEDED.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Seek professional help immediately OP.

    Boards is not the place I'm afraid.

    Please don't carry around weapons with you either...

    I really hope you and your family are okay and best of luck with the pregnancy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    I was thinking that Gardai was the ones to go to.
    Where to look for help?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭Leilak


    l agree with previous poster, how disgraceful that your wife had that happen to her, please don't carry weapons though, stay safe and good wishes to you both and your new baby xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Could the local community welfare officer help to get you help with sourcing new emergency accommodation ?

    Would you Ask to speak to community liaison officer in Gardai ?

    It sounds like a horrendous situation op, . would any family members be able to help you in any way ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Alas we can't give legal advice. However it shouldn't breach the rules of the charter to say that if you think you're in any danger and that the Gardaí haven't for any reason taken this seriously enough, then the matter can always be escalated at a Garda Station to a Sergeant or Inspector who might be able to reassure you that they're doing everything they can.

    They can more appropriately advise you in relation to your personal safety if they're told everything and they know just how scared you guys may be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Thanks for the input on the hammer.
    I did mention it to the Gardai that in fear of my safety I now have it with me and no reply was made.
    I have no family that could help (I am a foreigner).
    Community welfare officer - I will get in touch with them.
    Thanks for the input again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭Lisha


    Try citizens advice bureau too.

    I'm sorry you and your family are being treated so badly , I really hope it gets better soon.
    Best if luck with the baby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Just rang the Gardai again, they will come to talk to us.
    Will see whats next then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    Re the Hammer - Dont carry it with you. Having it handy in the house however... That said more often than not any weapon will be used against you rather than you being able to use it to get the upper hand.

    Excellent advice above ref the Super-Intendant.

    OP have you contacted your landlord and PRTB to make a complaint?

    Best of luck with it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Waiting for the Gardai to leave the apartment safely and straight to hospital as my wife is very unwell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Attacked again while driving on the way to hospital, back to the Gardai station and hostility torwards me.
    Garda on duty said that there is two side of every story,
    refused to allow me to wait for escort home (after midnight).
    I was told I could go to homeless shelter but without my wife as they do not allow couples.
    Is it a bad dream? That could not be real.
    I just do not believe whats happening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    So sorry to hear of the hard time you are having at this difficult time. I know how hard it is to deal with antisocial behaviour I lived through four years of it myself. The guards were no help at all. I'm afraid your on your own with this just move out if you can, I couldn't I was on my own with a mortgage. Even if your struggling with money ask yourself what price you would put on you and your wife's safety and peace of mind ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Kelly06 sorry to hear that, as we speak I am packing as much stuff as I can to move it first thing in the morning.
    I don't know what they said to the guards so the one on duty was so cold if not hostile to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Mrs W


    What started the whole incident? Not saying that you are but asking the guards nicely for help, concerned for your safety etc will work better than being aggressive and demanding their attention. Again I understand that emotions are high (I would be exact the same in your case) even ask to speak to someone else if you're not satisfied. It must be very worrying for yourself and your wife at this late stage of pregnancy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    The whole thing started by dog fouling in front of our balcony door (ground floor apt) - we are unfortunate to have common area right outside.
    I was being very polite with the garda on duty, its like the attackers have some connections there or something.
    Same garda was very concerned when we showed the footage of today's incident and back from hospital it was like talking to different person...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Mrs W


    They probably don't have connections but the guards may be writing you off as overreacting, they're also very understaffed and under pressure which is no excuse either.
    Is there a management company? Most apartment complexes don't allow pets, get on to them? Call their landlord too, if I had a complaint like that I'd be acting on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Attacked again while driving on the way to hospital, back to the Gardai station and hostility torwards me.
    Garda on duty said that there is two side of every story,
    refused to allow me to wait for escort home (after midnight).
    I was told I could go to homeless shelter but without my wife as they do not allow couples.

    Is it a bad dream? That could not be real.
    I just do not believe whats happening.

    That isn't on at all cannot believe something like that could be let happen. No escort home for a heavily pregnant woman who has just been assaulted, What the fck is the point of the 'guards' at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭TotallyEpic


    If you're in an apartment building, definitely call the management company/landlord.

    Any chance you can elaborate on the severity of the assault? If it's physical, I would persist with the police. Request to speak to a supervising officer if need be. Nobody should live in fear, and if the Gardaí refuse to do anything about it, I would consider that to be gross misconduct and downright negligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    Agent does nothing, barely answer the phone, management company does nothing.
    Tried several times already.
    Threats were made to have us killed several times, initial incident was threats,
    trying to get in to our apt trough that balcony/back door and my wife was spat on.
    Some may say its nothing but now we live in fear of our lives, these people are capable of anything.
    Gardai confirmed it to be an assault.
    Todays one was when the guy chased us on a mtb and drove against the traffic stopped in front of our car, made his way to my door and trying to break the glass so I took off.
    We have both incidents recorded on the phone, yet Gardai is doing nothing because of some made up allegations against us.
    This whole situation is seriously worriyng, its all good when is good but when the things go wrong there is really no help.
    It seems like attacker can do whatever they want, make false claims and walk free and keep doing his thing.

    Edit: There is no pets policy in the complex, yet there is at least 5 or 6 dogs already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Mrs W


    You definitely need to be speaking to someone higher up in the guards so, that's terrible behaviour to be getting away with. You also need to video any encounters from now.
    Never mind the crap agent, get on to your landlord ASAP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 NeedHelpUrgent


    I have no contact info of the LL.
    Agent contacted her and she agreed under these circumstances to let us leave with full deposit on the 24th of july.
    Did You mean video the Gardai or the attackers?
    I have lots of pictures of the people bringing dogs just outside the apt and 2 solid evidence of the attacks.
    Its a shame I cant post them videos on YT and name and shame them thugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭Mrs W


    I have no contact info of the LL.
    Agent contacted her and she agreed under these circumstances to let us leave with full deposit on the 24th of july.
    Did You mean video the Gardai or the attackers?
    I have lots of pictures of the people bringing dogs just outside the apt and 2 solid evidence of the attacks.
    Its a shame I cant post them videos on YT and name and shame them thugs.

    Videos of anything you can get,the more detail the better. If you have prope footage if the whole attack it looks much better than a few pics during


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    The Gardaí will only investigate and prosecute the crimes. They won't be able to help you avoid the neighbours or move. They won;t be able to get them removed from their home. They won't simply charge someone based on one persons story. They will have to get the other side first. The only other thing the Gardaí can do is issue an ASBO but they're completely useless. Even when they do get prosecuted they are likely to get bail so they won't be disappearing out of your lives.

    Keep the pressure on the Garda but don't be expecting them to solve the whole issue and make them disappear. And don't expect it to happen fast. From the sounds of it you've made a bad enemy and it's unlikely they'll cooperate in any way with the Gardaí or anyone at all. if i were in your position I'd be getting out of there as soon as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    If you could move the best thing is to just go. Set up in a completely different area and put it behind you. As soon as im in a position to get out of my house I will !.The guards are near useless at this stage..... A spare set of car keys were stolen on me when my house was broken into and this went unnoticed, months later they came back and took the car. I tried to stop them I even had the passenger door open when he sped off. To my absolute surprise the guards arrived and practically accused me of having something to do with the car being stolen and ordered me to go into the house and produce the keys. Their attitude to a visably shaken woman was horrible. To be honest any time I've needed the guards in my area they have been no help to me at all.

    Find a new home to start a new life with your wife and leave the scumbags behind to their sad existence. Best of luck with the birth, you wont know yourself when you find somewhere your happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    I echo Kelly06, can you move???


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