Lufthansa a/c lands on Unopened/Unfinished runway

billie1b

LH1360 a CRJ700 from Frankfurt to Katowice landed on an unfinished RWY today at Katowice airport. The airport are building a new parallel RWY, which is unfinished, has no lights, no linage, uneven surface and not due to be certified until 2015.
Theres a link at the bottom but its in Polish, cant find one in English

http://m.onet.pl/wiadomosci/slask,1e3qg

That'll be both boys taking a long walk....

suasdaguna2

Deleted User wrote: »

That'll be both boys taking a long walk....

I agree, utterly inexcusable.

notharrypotter

I agree, utterly inexcusable.

How so?

suasdaguna2

notharrypotter wrote: »

How so?

Because as professional pilots landing on a runway that has a large x on it is deserving of being fired. If you find it excusable I trust your not an aviation professional.

Aphex

How did this happen? Surely they were established on the ILS for the correct runway since the other one doesn't "exist"?

IngazZagni

Aphex wrote: »

How did this happen? Surely they were established on the ILS for the correct runway since the other one doesn't "exist"?

I landed here only a few weeks back. I believe the ILS is not working and I did a VOR approach that was a good few degrees offset. That means you come in towards the runway at quite a big angle and not straight in. The weather was quite marginal too but the notams (these notify crew of anything that may affect operations) quite clearly stated there was a new runway being built so don't land on it! When I landed, there were a good few construction vehicles on the new runway so you couldn't mistake it really. There were no markings or X's a few weeks back.

I will say that the old runway has some of the worst grip I've ever experienced, a new runway is badly needed.

Edit, avherald story.

http://avherald.com/h?article=476dea26&opt=0

billie1b

IngazZagni wrote: »

I landed here only a few weeks back. I believe the ILS is not working and I did a VOR approach that was a good few degrees offset. That means you come in towards the runway at quite a big angle and not straight in. The weather was quite marginal too but the notams (these notify crew of anything that may affect operations) quite clearly stated there was a new runway being built so don't land on it! When I landed, there were a good few construction vehicles on the new runway so you couldn't mistake it really. There were no markings or X's a few weeks back.

I will say that the old runway has some of the worst grip I've ever experienced, a new runway is badly needed

Theres an X on it now

https://mobile.twitter.com/flightradar24/status/485514832758988800

EDIT : They are gonna disembark the pax from the a/c abd due to there being no taxiways, the a/c is going to take off, do a circuit and land on the proper RWY as they dont have enough fuel for anything else and the bowser can't get to them

murphaph

It's LH so there won't be much about this in the press but if it was FR....

notharrypotter

If you find it excusable

I did not say I found it excusable merely asked why you found it inexcusable.

a VOR approach that was a good few degrees offset. That means you come in towards the runway at quite a big angle and not straight in.

Thanks for the clarification.

Where 2 runways are in proximity I would assume that the pilots should take extra precautions.

But you never know.

Reminds me of watching an aircraft try to land on runway 05 in Shannon many years ago.

basill

11 degrees of offset for the VOR-Z onto R27 and a stepped descent if you are doing the full procedural approach. Weather doesn't appear to have been much of a factor in this incident if the highlighted metars on avherald tie in with the timing if the LH arrival.

The ILS is notamed as being off air until August (estimated) plus there are notams warning of a new runway being constructed as well as temporary airfield charts in Jeppesen and I presume LIDO which is what Lufty would be using advising of related taxiway closures relating to the works.

Lots of tea and not many biscuits I fear.

murphaph

Good. All it would have taken is one small piece of construction equipment for this to have been a disaster.

smurfjed

suasdaguna2

what happened to suasdaguna1?

suasdaguna2

smurfjed wrote: »

what happened to suasdaguna1?

Threw in the towel over frustration with the bos return thread. I look forward to the final report published as it will vindicate a lot of things. suasdaguna2 alive and well!!!!

andy_g

suasdaguna2 wrote: »

Threw in the towel over frustration with the bos return thread. I look forward to the final report published as it will vindicate a lot of things. suasdaguna2 alive and well!!!!

I would advise you yes you to stay on topic or you may end up with more than a warning this time.

suasdaguna2

andy_g wrote: »

I would advise you yes you to stay on topic or you may end up with more than a warning this time.

Weasel words.....get rid of me for once and for all

ProfessorPlum

suasdaguna2 wrote: »

Weasel words.....get rid of me for once and for all

Ha ha - suicide by cop mod!!

jamo2oo9

Read somewhere that the plane will have to depart on the unfinished runway as there's no taxiways connecting to the airport

andy_g

suasdaguna2 wrote: »

Weasel words.....get rid of me for once and for all

I see at times you have your merits, so to beat throwing the toys from your pram you have 24hrs to think if you wish to remove the above and play by the forum rules.

It's not a hard ask everyone else can do it why cant you?

lord lucan

suasdaguna2 wrote: »

Weasel words.....get rid of me for once and for all

You must have a boards death wish, you haven't listened to anything I said in your previous guise. I've infracted you now, any more and it'll be a long holiday from A&A.

Growler!!!

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

Read somewhere that the plane will have to depart on the unfinished runway as there's no taxiways connecting to the airport

From avherald:

On Jul 7th 2014 the aircraft was permitted to depart from the runway under construction and positioned back to Frankfurt as flight LH-9949.

smurfjed

what happened to suasdaguna1?

Me and my big mouth Apologies, i didn't know about the previous history, i had just realised that we had lost the postings of someone who was actually an aviator......