The Advent of the Prophet was foretold in the new testament John 14:16

mezuzaj

Got a leaflet in the door from Ahmadiyyat saying the Advent of the prophet was foretold in the new testament John 14:16.

Incase you get asked, here is some research on this point.

The Muslim Argument

Muslims argue that the above passage is a prophecy about Muhammad. They argue this from a verse in the Quran, “O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God . . . giving glad tidings of an Apostle to come after me. Whose name shall be Ahmad," (Surah 61:6, Yusuf Ali's translation, emphasis added).

The alleged equivalent for Ahmad (“praised one”) in Arabaic is periclytos ("praised one") in Greek. However, periclytos does not even occur in John 14:16. Instead, the Greek word paraclete ("helper") occurs. Therefore, in order to support their argument, Muslims have to argue that the text of John has been corrupted.1

The Christian Response

First, there is absolutely no ancient textual evidence among all of the over 5,600 Greek manuscripts to place the word periclytos (“praised one”) in place of paraclete (“helper”).2 For a Muslim to argue that the correct reading should be periclytos instead of paraclete, shows his lack of understanding of the actual Greek text and the reliability of the copying of the New Testament.

Second, in the same passage, Jesus explicitly identified the “Helper” as the Holy Spirit: “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send, will teach you” (John 14:26). Therefore, with all due respect, the Muslim argument is already defeated. Third, this “Helper” was given to Jesus’ apostles (the “you” in John 14:16) not to Arabs living over 550 years later! It was given to those who “have been with . . . [him] from the beginning” (John 15:27; cf. Acts 1:22; Luke 1:1-2). However, Muhammad was not one of Jesus’ apostles.

Fourth, this “Helper” was to abide with them “forever” (John 16), but Muhammad has been dead for over thirteen centuries! Fifth, Jesus told the disciples, “You know Him [the Helper]” (v. 17), but the apostles did not know Muhammad. He was not born until over 500 years later! Sixth, Jesus also told the disciples that the Helper would be “in you” (v. 17). How Muhammad could be “in” the disciples stretches all credibility. This reference of being "in" the disciples clearly is a reference to the Holy Spirit’s role of dwelling inside believers as the context of John (John 14:16-26) and the rest of the New Testament (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30) indicates.

Seventh, Jesus said that the Helper would be sent “in My [Jesus’] name” (John 14:26). However, no Muslim believes that Muhammad was sent in Jesus’ name. Eighth, the Helper whom Jesus would send would not “speak on His own authority” (John 16:13). However, Muhammad constantly testifies of himself. For example, in Surah 33:40, Muhammad says of himself, “Muhammad is . . . The Apostle of God, And the Seal of the Prophets.” Ninth, the Helper would “glorify” Jesus (John 16:14). How would Muhammad actually be glorifying Jesus if Muhammad is the last (and the sealer) of the prophets? He really would not be “glorifying” an earlier, inferior prophet like Jesus.

Tenth, and finally, Jesus said that the Helper would come in “not many days” (Acts 1:5), but Muhammad did not come for almost 600 years! Since the Helper is the Holy Spirit, He did come merely 40 days later (Acts 1:5; 2:1ff).

Therefore, given the above evidence, the Holy Spirit clearly is the Helper in John 14:16, not Muhammad.

homer911

Perhaps you should be posting this in the Islam forum?

mezuzaj

homer911 wrote: »

Perhaps you should be posting this in the Islam forum?

Nah. you can't really debate anything with Islam.

Benny_Cake

mezuzaj wrote: »

Nah. you can't really debate anything with Islam.

That's a rather sweeping remark. I know that I find it unfair when people make dismissive comments about Christians, so I don't see why Muslims should be treated any differently.

Regardless, I'm not sure what you can expect by posting this here. Christians will agree with you for the most part, atheists will find it all a bit pointless. If you want to discuss this with a Muslim, then the Islam forum would be more suitable (subject to Mod approval-it may qualify as proselytising).

Up to yourself Mezuzaj.

catallus

Very hairy stuff.

Extrapolating "evidence" from arcane semantic argument about translated texts? This should be in Puzzles and Quizzes, not Islam.