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Not sure if I am wanted

  • 29-06-2014 8:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭


    I started a jobsbridge a few months ago, after it went back to college. I hadn't worked in awhile.i was happy start working. Firstly I never worked in an office apart from a call centre. I am not sure what they want from me work wise( speed of work). I made a few mistakes but nothing major. I put my hand up for stuff and it's yeah no! I don't think so. I seem to get less work now or the horrible ****. I didn't realise office work was or is. I am lost. They gave a newbie more information and stuff to do and she is unpaid. Any way I improve things.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Not clear whether this relates to paid employment or a jobsbridge role. Since you mention jobsbridge and college in timespan of a few months plus this role.

    Also not really sure what you are saying with stuff like 'yeah no'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭Arthur Beesley


    Sounds like your manager has lost confidence in your ability to do the job competently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    I started a jobsbridge and was really excited about getting a job. I never worked in an office environment. Not sure what they mean by work and how to communicate this. I am getting less work to do now. I tried to bring up this issue of less work, I asked for more varieiy so I can learn more. It didn't work. I seem to make things worse. I am getting frustrated and I am losing interest. I am trying to remain positive but it is hard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Without knowing the nature of the work these are my suggestions-

    Arrange a meeting with your supervisor. Ask for feedback on your work so far. Tell them you would like them to clarify what is expected of you as you're not certain of the scope of the role and your daily goals. Ask if there is any possibility of branching out into other areas.

    It's all down to communication and if you don't understand something and haven't asked then you are as responsible for the outcome as they are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    That's good advise, I am expected to know,being a college graduate an all. It's a family run business and the long term staff are like family. It's all a bit awkward. No proper management. It all merges into everybody doing everything. I am afraid if I have a word, it could be mid interpeated. It's a case, they gave a job description don't you understand or oh well your not office material.
    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Without knowing the nature of the work these are my suggestions-

    Arrange a meeting with your supervisor. Ask for feedback on your work so far. Tell them you would like them to clarify what is expected of you as you're not certain of the scope of the role and your daily goals. Ask if there is any possibility of branching out into other areas.

    It's all down to communication and if you don't understand something and haven't asked then you are as responsible for the outcome as they are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Sounds like your manager has lost confidence in your ability to do the job competently.

    I think your correct, I can feel it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Kai123


    I was left to my own devices on some occasions. If it was too long I went and found someone and asked if I could help, or if there was anything else I could do. There was always something that was trivial but helped free them up for more important tasks.

    If your on an internship, you have to milk it for all its worth. If they wont help you at all, wait for 3 months (looks nicer on the CV) and leave, and find another placement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    raher1 wrote: »
    That's good advise, I am expected to know,being a college graduate an all. It's a family run business and the long term staff are like family. It's all a bit awkward. No proper management. It all merges into everybody doing everything. I am afraid if I have a word, it could be mid interpeated. It's a case, they gave a job description don't you understand or oh well your not office material.

    Job descriptions are a reflection of what the company thinks their 'ideal' worker should be. The person who they eventually employ probably won't tick all of the boxes so to speak especially if the person is an intern which you are.

    Most of us need a bit of on the job training when we start out. Their priority should be to train you properly so you can help out in the long run. Yeah it might be a bit awkward to talk to them but there are expectations and then there is reality and the reality is your struggling a bit and something has to be done to change that. Choose the person who you think would be the most receptive to your questions and who would be in a position to help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    If you really want to know if you are wanted tune into crimecall, rte1 Monday July 28th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    D Trent wrote: »
    If you really want to know if you are wanted tune into crimecall, rte1 Monday July 28th

    Top man d Trent


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    I think it's case of I can't relate to them, we are different back grounds and they can't understand people not being crazy about there stuff as they are. I will chat to my fellow intern, they are they're longer. I feel let down by the process.
    D Trent wrote: »
    If you really want to know if you are wanted tune into crimecall, rte1 Monday July 28th
    cloudatlas wrote: »
    Job descriptions are a reflection of what the company thinks their 'ideal' worker should be. The person who they eventually employ probably won't tick all of the boxes so to speak especially if the person is an intern which you are.

    Most of us need a bit of on the job training when we start out. Their priority should be to train you properly so you can help out in the long run. Yeah it might be a bit awkward to talk to them but there are expectations and then there is reality and the reality is your struggling a bit and something has to be done to change that. Choose the person who you think would be the most receptive to your questions and who would be in a position to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    What did you study in college?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Kai123


    I worked in a small family business for awhile. Was very awkward when the father (owner) was having a go at his son (my manager) in front of me.

    That didn't work out for my but for different reasons. Small family business wanted to expend without spending a penny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭jackboy


    It's important to show passion for the job which it sounds like you are not. You won't be kept without this. Also, if you sit in the corner waiting to be given jobs you won't last long. You need to show initiative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Kai123


    jackboy wrote: »
    It's important to show passion for the job which it sounds like you are not. You won't be kept without this. Also, if you sit in the corner waiting to be given jobs you won't last long. You need to show initiative.

    The benefit of an internship is the ability to leave very easily. If its not working out then just give your weeks notice, and go for the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    I have put my hand up. One week they do one thing, the next another. It's very hard to know what's what.
    jackboy wrote: »
    It's important to show passion for the job which it sounds like you are not. You won't be kept without this. Also, if you sit in the corner waiting to be given jobs you won't last long. You need to show initiative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    And go where!?
    Kai123 wrote: »
    The benefit of an internship is the ability to leave very easily. If its not working out then just give your weeks notice, and go for the next one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Are you actually able to do the skills you are volunteering yourself for?

    I worked with an intern once, who could not comprehend that he was not good enough at the basics. He would volunteer to do everything, but it was not really appropriate for him to be doing that, because he already had enough on his plate that he was not doing properly so I was not going to give him more tasks for him to do badly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    raher1 wrote: »
    That's good advise, I am expected to know,being a college graduate an all. It's a family run business and the long term staff are like family.
    raher1 wrote: »
    It's a case, they gave a job description don't you understand or oh well your not office material.
    Sounds like they haven't a clue what they want, and from what you say, the job description was probably a list of buzz words that they would like to use, but probably haven't a clue about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Are you actually able to do the skills you are rvolunteering yourself for?

    I worked with an intern once, who could not comprehend that he was not good enough at the basics. He would volunteer to do everything, but it was not really appropriate for him to be doing that, because he already had enough on his plate that he was not doing properly so I was not going to give him more tasks for him to do badly.

    To be honest, I do have the basic skills, they need refining but all they do is stop me before I could start. It's a joke. They enjoy making me suffer. To be honest it's pathetic. They only look for mistakes to throw in my face. Don't see the point volunteering for anything anymore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    the_syco wrote: »
    Sounds like they haven't a clue what they want, and from what you say, the job description was probably a list of buzz words that they would like to use, but probably haven't a clue about.

    After I signed up. They dropped half the buzz words, they find it hard to employ people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Can you request a review meeting?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    To honest review meeting are a bit like new they are old school management. I asked to do different stuff. It's pointless. They are too disorganised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Survived the week, but it's head wrecking. Pointless. Left early today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Blah going stay till I find another job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    If I was fired from jobsbridge internship, what would happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    This to me sounds like you just might be a bad fit for the culture of that particular workplace. It may not be your fault at all. It also takes everyone time to settle into a job and refine their skills.

    However, not to kick you when you're down, but your posts could be somewhat more clear - it may be worth paying attention to detail like spelling if tasks like writing letters are part of the job.

    Having said that, my advice would be to leave if it's making you unhappy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    raher1 wrote: »
    If I was fired from jobsbridge internship, what would happened?
    Nothing to worry about I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Sorry Kcc for the bad spelling! Bad fit is right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭KCC


    raher1 wrote: »
    Sorry Kcc for the bad spelling! Bad fit is right.

    Now I feel v. bad! Working in a family run company can be awful, especially if it's small. Many of us have been there" You might actually like working in another office where you might be shown the ropes more.

    I have a few tips here (some may disagree), but I hope they are of some help. I don't know your age or gender, but in my experience young men in particular sometimes need to be told this stuff. I hope this is not patronising:

    I think that being as professional as possible in an office is good, e.g. when you answer the phone to an external caller you could say "Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening, [name of company], Raher1 speaking, how may I help you?".

    There are also rules for email and letter writing which you could find online. I'm sure you know how to use a photocopier, fax and scanner as well as basic pc applications?

    Watch your colleagues to see how they work and imitate them as much as possible.

    Try to be happy and friendly in your work, e.g. say "Good Morning" to your colleagues when you arrive, briefing make small talk, e.g. re: the weather! Try to be helpful, if you are going out for lunch, ask if they need anything from the shop.

    Dress for the office (no runners, jeans, t-shirts instead wear proper shoes, slacks and shirts).

    Try to have confidence in yourself also. People won't believe in your abilities unless you believe in yourself.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Throw in a few hoops and large ball aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭RomanGod


    raher1 wrote: »
    Survived the week, but it's head wrecking. Pointless. Left early today.

    I've been reading through the thread and I felt sorry for you up until this post. You are coming across as someone that admits defeat before the game starts. You probably always look for the easy way out. Take this thread for example, you complain about your job but you are doing nothing about it. It's as if you prefer people look down on you but you will make a thread like this to be the victim. Plenty of people out there who would do anything for a job so I would toughen up if I were you or move aside and let someone who actually wants the job to take over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    OP I know you dont like the job but thats it.If you gave more specific examples you'll get some advice. If its better than daytime Tv thought I'd stick with it and try to find something interesting about it , even if its just showing up in a suit and tie one day and enjoying their reaction :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    InReality wrote: »
    OP I know you dont like the job but thats it.If you gave more specific examples you'll get some advice. If its better than daytime Tv thought I'd stick with it and try to find something interesting about it , even if its just showing up in a suit and tie one day and enjoying their reaction :)

    I don't show enough passion for the job, not jumping through hoops. I am laid back. I made a few minor errors and I got smashed. Others mainly females made big errors and it was let go. Kinda reverse sexism. It's a stupid marketing, I tried it to see would I like it, not for me. Better than day time tv.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    raher1 wrote: »
    I don't show enough passion for the job, not jumping through hoops. I am laid back. I made a few minor errors and I got smashed. Others mainly females made big errors and it was let go. Kinda reverse sexism. It's a stupid marketing, I tried it to see would I like it, not for me. Better than day time tv.

    Do you mean it's a role in marketing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Forget it, follow the dream raher1. I am only being a wimpy boy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭tenifan


    raher1 wrote: »
    Forget it, follow the dream raher1. I am only being a wimpy boy.

    Office work is boring, especially if it's just general admin work. It suits some people but not everyone.

    You're bored of it. You make mistakes. (then wonder why they won't give you new work). Your written communication skills don't seem to be up-to-scratch.

    But my advice.. it's very good experience you wouldn't get otherwise. It's work at the end of the day, and someone has to do it. Instead of moaning that it's boring, and you make mistakes but they're not big mistakes so you don't care, how about focusing on doing the job and doing it well - have a positive attitude, be punctual and take some pride in the work you're doing.

    Then in the evenings try to figure out what you want to do in life. You need a plan for when your internship is over, so start planning on something you want to do for the rest of your life. You could use your experience from the office to get a job in an office in an industry that interests you, or even another city that interests you... maybe you're good at using a particular computer program, if so build up your skills so you can put it on your CV.

    At the end of the internship if you have nothing lined up you'll be going back to watching daytime tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    At this point, I agree with all of the above points, my grammar is not great, sometimes my manners could be better and time keeping,well who was never late. Internship are hard if your a certain age and free of responsibility for a while. So thank you again
    Starting feel like grand design guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    By mutual consent the "job" has being terminated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭raher1


    Leaving the internship Friday, couldn't be happier.


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