Engine problems

allibastor

Hi All,
Few questions that you all maybe able to answer.

I have a diesel car, I recently had a new set of lifters and rockers put in it, and the head unit redone and fitted.

I drove the car for about 3 weeks and the engine stopped. The bolt in the cam shaft snapped, I was told this bolt should have been replaced, and also that the fuel pump on the engine was fitted wrong. I had a mechanic fix this, cost 350, to get a new fuel pump and cam bolt replacement.

The car still would not go, there was more damage to the engine. I brought it back to original mechanic, he says I put petrol into the car and that is what caused the damage. I usually fill the car from near empty to full every time, so I am doubtful the car would have run fine for over 500 miles and then break with petrol in the tank, Also the mechanic who did the fuel pump never mentioned anything about petrol.

The original mechanic has now said that the lifters and rockers in the car are broken again, they cost me 1200 to fix in the first place.

Any advice on this situation, such as can wrong fuel break the lifters again, or what damage could wrong fuel do. I am also VERY doubtful that wrong fuel was used as I am not generally absent minded on these things.

Thanks,

George Dalton

Seems a bit of a strange situation. What kind of car is it?

mullingar

Something is fishy there and sounds like he is trying to blame you. Tell mechanic #1 that you want to get the fuel tested.

Tell him if petrol present, you will pay it (around €200 iirc) but if it's 100% diesel the mechanic will pay it.

corkgsxr

Why didnt you go back to the first mechanic straight away. Can complicate things adding a 3rd party

allibastor

corkgsxr wrote: »

Why didnt you go back to the first mechanic straight away. Can complicate things adding a 3rd party

First mechanic was is a different County so tough. It does Sound very didnt as If a fuel pump was changed i would imagine the first things said would be there was petrol in there.

Also, i have asked a Kia Garage, car is a Kia magentis by the way, would the lifters break again, they said it was very unlikley they would unless you were at High speed on a very long run, none of which i was, it happened as i pulled away after work, so car was cold and 10mph at max

toyotaavensis

Sounds like the mechanic didnt do his repair right.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Sounds like the mechanic didnt do his repair right.

I am starting to think that.

So far I have spent 1550 on engine repairs, and the car has been fixed again now with a new set of lifters, new rockers, New ERG valve.

No mention of Petrol in the tank anymore.

I don't even know how those things can break on the engine if they were only done recently. since I had the head unit fixed and the first set of lifters replaced the car did 844KMS.

toyotaavensis

This is a balls. I dont know what you should do as if it was me I wouldnt want this lad anywhere near my car. It really sounds like he f##ked it up.

If you are in Portlaoise, then there is a lad near you called George Dalton. I have never been to his garage or met him but there are a lot of lads on here who use him and I have never heard a bad word posted about him.

Once this is sorted I would suggest you look elsewhere for your mechanicing.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

This is a balls. I dont know what you should do as if it was me I wouldnt want this lad anywhere near my car. It really sounds like he f##ked it up.

If you are in Portlaoise, then there is a lad near you called George Dalton. I have never been to his garage or met him but there are a lot of lads on here who use him and I have never heard a bad word posted about him.

Once this is sorted I would suggest you look elsewhere for your mechanicing.

Hi, Thanks.

Yes it was more a case of who was closest to be honest. The 1st mechanic had a pickup and could move the car, but it has been nothing but trouble with them. I rang a main Kia garage there and they said the lifters is 95% of cases would not be ever damaged by fuel. The most likely cause is a cam shaft breaking loose and running while the car was in motion, which is what happened.

I was told by them that a Cam shaft bolt should ALWAYS be replaced when you take it our of the engine as they are kept under tension and once you remove the tension the bolt gets weaker by this.

toyotaavensis

To be honest if i was you i would just look for my money back from this gob****e and take the money to a proper mechanic and ask him to sort it.

no point paying him more so he can **** it up more.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

To be honest if i was you i would just look for my money back from this gob****e and take the money to a proper mechanic and ask him to sort it.

no point paying him more so he can **** it up more.

How do you get out of paying a mechanic. Todate the car will cost more than 2k to fix, i could have bought 2 engines for that.

toyotaavensis

Ho obviously didnt do his job right. Ask for your money back. If you dont get it go to the small claims court and then get it back.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

Ho obviously didnt do his job right. Ask for your money back. If you dont get it go to the small claims court and then get it back.

It is getting the keys back that worries me. He is adamant that i put petrol in the car, but the mechanic Who replaced the broken cam shaft bolt and fuel injector never mentiobed this.
I also still dont know how the lifters can go again, as said the car only did the bones of 500 miles when i got it back

toyotaavensis

He is obviously making an excuse for his own bad workmanship.
He is not entitled to keep the keys to your car. If he refuses to give you your keys contact gardai.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

He is obviously making an excuse for his own bad workmanship.
He is not entitled to keep the keys to your car. If he refuses to give you your keys contact gardai.

How can i prove it is my problem. The mechanic Who did the cam and fuel injector at the time said to even open the head unit to see what was wrong would cost me.
And getting money from a mechanic in small claims would be great fun i would say.

toyotaavensis

First thing is first get your car out of there with your keys and get the car taken somewhere else. Dont give him any more money
Secondly, get it fixed by a competant repairer who will tell you the cause of the damage.
Thirdly based on what happens secondly decide what to do.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

First thing is first get your car out of there with your keys and get the car taken somewhere else. Dont give him any more money
Secondly, get it fixed by a competant repairer who will tell you the cause of the damage.
Thirdly based on what happens secondly decide what to do.

Do you think that so far it would seem that he Has done the work done was wrong.

The history thus far
Head unit stripped and skimmed. Full set of lifters replaced. Injectors cleaned. Cost 1200
Engine went three weeks later.

Second mechanic, replaced broken bolt in camshaft and reset this. Put in New fuel injector 350

Back to First guy, New set of lifters again, New erg valve put in. New rockers. They also said the drained petrol from the tank. Cost 440.

Does this Sound right or wrong

toyotaavensis

This sounds seriously wrong.
You would know if you put petrol into the car. Just so you know diesels dont run for very long on petrol. Petrol wont burn in a diesel engine.

These lads sound like scam artists.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

This sounds seriously wrong.
You would know if you put petrol into the car. Just so you know diesels dont run for very long on petrol. Petrol wont burn in a diesel engine.

These lads sound like scam artists.

The second mechanic said the problem was from the cam shaft bolt not being replaced when removed, and fuel pump/injector in engine not being fitted back right. He swears blind no petrol in tank

Any time i fill the car i put in 50-60 at a time, i doubt a diesel would run for 50 euro worth of petrol would it.

toyotaavensis

no it wouldnt
the lad who did the job ****ed it up.

allibastor

toyotaavensis wrote: »

no it wouldnt
the lad who did the job ****ed it up.

Gas part is also on New repairs bill, there is an oil filter, but no New diesel filter. I would imagine If i put in petrol that would need to be changed.

toyotaavensis

Yes that should be changed if the wrong fuel was used.

allibastor

Said it to the mechanic, didnt go down Well. He said cam bolts dont need to replaced when taking out cam shaft or replacing head unit.
I said about fuel filter and was told he did this.

allibastor

Got another opinion on car today. Was told that if there was petrol in the car it must have been cleaned out with a spong and wire brush as there was no smell of it in the car.

allibastor

Just an update, Car has now been fixed and was sold to a taxi driver down in limerick. car didn't make money for me, but didn't loose any either.