Luis Suarez - Mod Note Post #1, #585 and #602

GavRedKing

Right, for the interest of disclosure, I dont think this thread will last long, I fully expect it to be closed after we get a sh*t storm over various Suarez incidents.

Anyway, dicuss and try not to abuse Suarez, Liverpool, Utd, etc and this thread will stay open, treat this as the place to discuss all things Suarez, given the nature of yesterdays game no doubt the 3rd biting incident will be the main topic.

Usual forum rules apply.

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Follow Up - Post #585

As a quick warning, there's a lot of personal sniping taking place at the moment (especially over the last hour), and a lot of "United vs Liverpool" stuff that's verging massively off topic (Comparisons are fine, if the context is discussing and counter-discussing posts, but attacking the posters and name calling are not).

This thread was already hanging on a thread, and if it's not taken back on thread quickly and permanently, I'll be closing it off until there's an actual development in the story at hand. The mods were very reluctant to even start this thread for fear of certain groups using it to just go fishing, and it's not going unnoticed that's exactly what is starting to happen as people approach the line they shouldn't cross.

No more attacking posters. If you've got a point to make, make it, but personal sniping is not going to be tolerated.

Mod warning post 585

Mod warning Post 602

Will I Amnt

Lovely chap.

Agueroooo

flawed genius

Chucky the tree

I hope his eye is okay.

Fitz*

Maradona of his day! Genius but a nutter.

wandatowell

He likes to bite people when he gets angry. Guy needs help.

MD1990

A lovable player who likes to give other players love bites.

kryogen

Clearly has mental problems, should be forced to under go counselling for them as part of any punishment, at his own expense also. Don't see why anyone else should have to pay for it for a millionaire.

Cracking player other then his huge flaws

weisses

If found guilty by FIFA he could face a 24 month Ban, and giving its his third offence I don't think he will get away with it.

World cup is over for him I'm afraid ( and rightly so in my opinion )

RasTa

Taken from the other thread

I wonder if Uruguay fans/media will turn on him if he does get banned for the rest of the tournament.

Anybody know how their media are responding to the charge announced today

greendom

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I hope his eye is okay.

And his teeth. They looked sore yesterday

dodderangler

He should be banned from football IMO.
Biting players on 3 accounts?? Is he not all there or something?
He was given a 3rd chance to kop ( see what I did there) on and he does it again. Bang out of order and he deserves to be proper punished now. And I'm not saying that as a utd fan but come on how many more chances could someone get.
Great player don't get me wrong but this is out of order. Ban him or muzzle him. One or other

kryogen

Let me try this to keep in tone with the Liverpool users posts, just taking the opposite angle naturally

A disgrace to the game and should never be allowed step foot on the pitch again, he doesn't care about football or winning only about hurting others

DARK-KNIGHT

sure cantona giggs and keane were all worse than saint luis

P_1

Something not right with him but Liverpool seem to have managed to get him the mental help that he needs, something that I think Uruguay failed to do. Most teams have fantastic physios and doctors to look after their player's physical well being, do they have similar set ups for their mental well being I wonder?

Personally I'd say its a given that his world cup is over, the main question is if it will affect his club season. This has the potential to get quite messy.

kryogen

RasTa wrote: »

Taken from the other thread

I wonder if Uruguay fans/media will turn on him if he does get banned for the rest of the tournament.

Anybody know how their media are responding to the charge announced today

Playing the victim card, saying he is the victim of a British media witch hunt, blaming them for the charge

Chucky the tree

RasTa wrote: »

Taken from the other thread

I wonder if Uruguay fans/media will turn on him if he does get banned for the rest of the tournament.

Anybody know how their media are responding to the charge announced today

They wouldn't be in the second round if it wasn't for him so I doubt it, not to mention his performances in the last world cup and Copa America.

_Kaiser_

Can't be any argument after that really. You see his mouth open as he leans in and then he tries to get a better grip on the guy's shoulder.

After 3 times - and the crazy statement he made after - it's just inexcusable and a ban should follow

(Said as a Liverpool fan)

Leftist

he likes to play the victim. Don't think he's retarded, but incidents like his club excusing him even after he was found guilty of racial abuse, have only galvanised his victim mentality.

8 month ban from all comps imo.

niallo27

Why is mostly utd fans that are so upset about this. The same 3 or 4 posters posting through the night. Why so much anger.

djPSB

Suarez is misunderstood.

RasTa

Chucky the tree wrote: »

They wouldn't be in the second round if it wasn't for him so I doubt it, not to mention his performances in the last world cup and Copa America.

Well doesn't sound like he will change anytime soon if that is the reaction.

Will I Amnt

Some people might think it unfair to ban him from club football along with the international team but there is the chance that FIFA might just say they need to protect the rest of the players on the pitch from a guy who clearly has mental issues and shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.

Here's hoping anyway.

Reekwind

dodderangler wrote: »

He should be banned from football IMO.
Biting players on 3 accounts?? Is he not all there or something?

Hang on. Biting is obviously deeply weird but it's not as if he's going around shooting people or breaking legs. There are far more dangerous offences that you can commit on the pitch. For all of Suarez's nibbling, he's far less dangerous to opposition players than, say, a Ryan Shawcross.

Obviously punishment is needed but calling for a lifetime ban or the book to be thrown at him is, IMO, just hysteria.

Will I Amnt

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is mostly utd fans that are so upset about this. The same 3 or 4 posters posting through the night. Why so much anger.

Why is it mostly Liverpool fans trying to downplay it?

greendom

Uruguay tv blames the English press

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/25/luis-suarez-bite-uruguayan-english-press-agenda

hullaballoo

I'd love to know what MagicIRL makes of all this.

Reekwind

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is mostly utd fans that are so upset about this. The same 3 or 4 posters posting through the night. Why so much anger.

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Why is it mostly Liverpool fans trying to downplay it?

And here comes the same old Utd-Liverpool nonsense. Well, we'll always have the first page of the thread to look back on fondly.

Chucky the tree

RasTa wrote: »

Well doesn't sound like he will change anytime soon if that is the reaction.

Why wouldn't that be there reaction? He's done far far more good for his country than bad.

sweetie

I'm not going to bite...

DARK-KNIGHT

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is mostly utd fans that are so upset about this. The same 3 or 4 posters posting through the night. Why so much anger.

it was a major incident at the world cup.. nothing to do with being a united fan now stop before you start handing out conspiracy stuff like united fans on boards all night in a show of strength to fifa and get suarez the max ban...

niallo27

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Why is it mostly Liverpool fans trying to downplay it?

He is a liverpool player. What do you expect. He has nothing to do with utd but from 5 utd posters we have a total of 187 posts in half a day about him.

Maximus Alexander

George Best had his drink, Diego Maradona had his cocaine, Louis Suarez has his cannibalism. Great players always have a flaw.

Be grand though.

GavRedKing

niallo27 wrote: »

Why is mostly utd fans that are so upset about this. The same 3 or 4 posters posting through the night. Why so much anger.

I dispise him too.

Greatest player in the EPL and probably the only player that can match Messi and Ronaldo on their day but going back to the Ivanovic incident I was hoping that Ivanovic would have turned around and kicked him up and down Anfield, what made it worse is he went on to score an equaliser in stoppage time.

Tom.D.BJJ

Timeline of major events.

20/11/2010 Ajax v PSV -> Bites PSV's Otman Bakkal. 7 game ban

15/10/2011 Man Utd v Liverpool -> Racial abuses Man Utd's Patrice Evra. 8 game ban

21/04/2013 Chelsea v Liverpool -> Bites Chelsea's Branislav Ivanovic. 10 game ban

24/06/2014 Uruguay v Italy -> Bites Italy's Giorgio Chiellini

cournioni

If he was a dog, he would be put down long before now.

Will I Amnt

Reekwind wrote: »

And here comes the same old Utd-Liverpool nonsense. Well, we'll always have the first page of the thread to look back on fondly.

Like it was going to be any other way.

MagicIRL

hullaballoo wrote: »

I'd love to know what MagicIRL makes of all this.

Work PC froze. Disaster insued. No one made it out alive.

Agueroooo

cournioni wrote: »

If he was a dog, he would be put down long before now.

Emmm but he is not a dog.

jester77

He's obviously got some issues, this is the third time and he's has been well punished for previous issues. This has obviously taught him nothing. Something else needs to be tried as biting is not normal and usually something that only a small child might do.

Great footballer and will obviously get a long ban but Liverpool/Uruguay should be looking at other options to help the lad out. Would be a shame to see his career remembered for the wrong reasons.

glued

Agueroooo wrote: »

Emmm but he is not a dog.

Have you tested him to be sure?

weisses

Reekwind wrote: »

Hang on. Biting is obviously deeply weird but it's not as if he's going around shooting people or breaking legs. There are far more dangerous offences that you can commit on the pitch.

Who is the last player that got shot on the Pitch ??

niallo27

GavRedKing wrote: »

I dispise him too.

Greatest player in the EPL and probably the only player that can match Messi and Ronaldo on their day but going back to the Ivanovic incident I was hoping that Ivanovic would have turned around and kicked him up and down Anfield, what made it worse is he went on to score an equaliser in stoppage time.

That's fair enough but you don't feel the need to tell every third post how bad he is. Hardly any Liverpool fans are condoning what he did, it's just a lot of people are carrying on like he killed someone. We know he deserves a lengthy ban.

ArielAtom

Why oh why do UTD fans feel the need to post when all they are doing is really hoping he gets a two year ban from all football.

Over the years they have had their fare share of controversy. Keane, trying to end a player's career, Cantona, attacking a spectator, Ferdinand, dodiging a drug test to avoid a longer ban.

We all have had nut jobs at our clubs, look at mine Joey Barton FFS!!!!!

Mr Alan

He is one of the best players in the world.

As said above, the only player in the world who, on his day, can match Messi and Ronaldo.

He also happens to be absolutely insane as evidenced by this and his previous biting incidents. He clearly needs professional help.

He should be sent home from the world cup and get a decent sized ban from international football. Anything more is nonsense hyperbole.

TimeToShine

Really, really hope he doesn't leave the PL or get too lengthy a ban. What he did was despicable but he's still great to watch. Mad as a bag of spiders, you never know what he'll do next. I only watched LFC games last year because of Suarez and I'm pretty sure many neutrals are the same. Ditching him would hurt the PL and his club.

To be frank I'm quite surprised at the outrage by some Liverpool fans. I don't use football players as my moral compass nor should anyone else. If he can do it on the pitch he should be allowed to stay.

RasTa

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Why wouldn't that be there reaction? He's done far far more good for his country than bad.

This sounds like your own opinion, I'm looking to hear that of Uruguayan's like below.

Public opinion in Uruguay, meanwhile, was divided. “We needed to win, so if you have to hit you hit, if you have to bite you bite,” said Barbara Giordano, a 26-year-old law student in Montevideo.

Some, though, were furious. “This kid can’t control his biting and attacking issues,” said Luis Lara, a 52-year-old shopkeeper. “That makes all of us Uruguayans look bad.”

MagicIRL

Gav has created a monster.

Mr Alan

cournioni wrote: »

If he was a dog, he would be put down long before now.

Thanks for that real solid contribution :pac:

Knex*

Continuing from other thread...

glued wrote: »

The guy he kicked is a man of dozens of previous convictions including assaulting someone in front of 20+ children.

Matthew Simmons ran down 11 rows from where he was sitting to confront Cantona after Cantona got sent off to tell him to 'F*ck off back to France' and that he was 'a French Bastard'. This is a guy who is linked strongly to neo-nazis.

Let's stop pretending he kicked Mother Theresa.

I suppose Cantona, being the good vigilante that he was, had Simmons criminal file on hand and was doing the World a favour, really.

They're both inexcusably mental. Unstable. And brilliant. And because of the latter, they make hypocrites out of us all.

If either were half the player, 90% of both fanbases would have wanted them shipped off home and never associated with the Club again. And the Clubs would do it too.

Ranchu

A ban from football for a period of time is warranted here. It would be unfair on other professionals to let him loose on a pitch where he is an obvious danger. Let the psychiatrists decide when he is fit to return.