Skins and Vix

iba

Don't want to ruin BenThere's thread so posting here.

Since I failed so miserably with MyMetrix (but I will try again) I tried to copy STB's Vix Blue HD.

A few noticeable differences.

The top three screen shots are STBs, bottom three are mine.

What do I do to copy the top three.

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Don't want to ruin BenThere's thread so posting here.

Since I failed so miserably with MyMetrix (but I will try again) I tried to copy STB's Vix Blue HD.

A few noticeable differences.

The top three screen shots are STBs, bottom three are mine.

What do I do to copy the top three.


Assuming you're using ABM look for an option to change it to the Irish region.

I don't use it so can't advise you further I'm afraid.

STB

I will post a screen shot of my settings if you wish later on.

I changed the font sizes to minuses and a few other things, but nothing major.

I don't use Autobouquet Manager so I don't have Sky like LCN, just my own channel numbering.

You problem with MyMetrix by the way is that you have run out of memory on your set top box. You should make sure your picons are stored on a dedicated USB stick, same with EPG, that it is stored on your USB rather than internal flash,. You should then setup the largest swapfile you can to the USB. It will free up a lot of space for other plugins that have to be on internal flash.

radiowaves

STB wrote: »

I will post a screen shot of my settings if you wish later on.

I changed the font sizes to minuses and a few other things, but nothing major.

I don't use Autobouquet Manager so I don't have Sky like LCN, just my own channel numbering.

You problem with MyMetrix by the way is that you have run out of memory on your set top box. You should make sure your picons are stored on a dedicated USB stick, same with EPG, that it is stored on your USB rather than internal flash,. You should then setup the largest swapfile you can to the USB. It will free up a lot of space for other plugins that have to be on internal flash.

I thought he was referring to the location of the Irish channels; how wrong was I

iba

STB wrote: »

I will post a screen shot of my settings if you wish later on.

I changed the font sizes to minuses and a few other things, but nothing major.

I don't use Autobouquet Manager so I don't have Sky like LCN, just my own channel numbering.

You problem with MyMetrix by the way is that you have run out of memory on your set top box. You should make sure your picons are stored on a dedicated USB stick, same with EPG, that it is stored on your USB rather than internal flash,. You should then setup the largest swapfile you can to the USB. It will free up a lot of space for other plugins that have to be on internal flash.

Hi,

Thanks for the answer to the MyMetrix problem.

Yes I'm using auto-Bouquet

Yes, I have Picons, EPG and back-up stored on a 4GB memory stick permanently left in the back of the machine.

I do not have 'swap-file' set up at all - have not tried using it yet. I do not know anything about it.

Is there a way to see what is stored on the Box's internal memory - maybe I can delete stuff/maybe I should do a factory reset?

Cheers

iba

@fbradyirl - Gigablue 800SE

iba

Some more info. regarding memory. Does it look normal or is the memroy too full and if so how can I delete unwanted files from the memory:

iba

I have created a swap file - size 256mb (that was the largest option available) and I set it to autostart (enable swap at startup).

iba

Just switching these images around to make them easier to see:

Mine:



STB's:



Mine:



STB's:



Mine:



STB's:



Cheers

iba

STB wrote: »

I will post a screen shot of my settings if you wish later on.

I changed the font sizes to minuses and a few other things, but nothing major.

I don't use Autobouquet Manager so I don't have Sky like LCN, just my own channel numbering.

You problem with MyMetrix by the way is that you have run out of memory on your set top box. You should make sure your picons are stored on a dedicated USB stick, same with EPG, that it is stored on your USB rather than internal flash,. You should then setup the largest swapfile you can to the USB. It will free up a lot of space for other plugins that have to be on internal flash.

STB,

I know your a very very busy man, but I would appreciate a shot of your settings when you do get a chance.

Cheers

STB

iba wrote: »

STB,

I know your a very very busy man, but I would appreciate a shot of your settings when you do get a chance.

Cheers

Will do.

In the info menu in Vix, it will tell you how much of the flash is being used. This is stuff physically stored on the internal flash. (this is what gets eaten up by picons). The other pic you posted is available memory.

iba

STB wrote: »

Will do.

In the info menu in Vix, it will tell you how much of the flash is being used. This is stuff physically stored on the internal flash. (this is what gets eaten up by picons). The other pic you posted is available memory.

Thanks STB,

I will check that out when I get home.

Cheers

fat-tony

I'm struggling to understand the issue here - is it the channel numbering? IS it the fact that you have channel numbers showing and STB doesn't? AutoBouquetMaker (ABM) doesn't play well with Saorview, but is fine if you are using it with the standard SKY or Freesat regional settings. Are you using AutoBouquets E2 instead of ABM? With the inability to decrypt HD channels on E2 machines using your own sub card there is a lot of channel swapping required to get the SD channels in a reasonable order with the FTA HD channels from BBC and C4 in the right place.

STB

fat-tony wrote: »

I'm struggling to understand the issue here - is it the channel numbering? IS it the fact that you have channel numbers showing and STB doesn't? AutoBouquetMaker (ABM) doesn't play well with Saorview, but is fine if you are using it with the standard SKY or Freesat regional settings. Are you using AutoBouquets E2 instead of ABM? With the inability to decrypt HD channels on E2 machines using your own sub card there is a lot of channel swapping required to get the SD channels in a reasonable order with the FTA HD channels from BBC and C4 in the right place.

He was trying to run the My Metrix Skin within Vix. This skin is very bloated and does other stuff not seen in other skins (I ran it on ATV way back).

The 800SE Mk1 boxes have a CPU running at 333MHZ with 128/256MB RAM. Too many plugins in flash and it can crash the box when installing. (Little bit of cross posting here but it is I would imagine a legit reason for the crash at install of My Metrix). You can always check what is on the box and whats on the USB by ftping into the box)

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

I'm struggling to understand the issue here - is it the channel numbering? IS it the fact that you have channel numbers showing and STB doesn't? AutoBouquetMaker (ABM) doesn't play well with Saorview, but is fine if you are using it with the standard SKY or Freesat regional settings. Are you using AutoBouquets E2 instead of ABM? With the inability to decrypt HD channels on E2 machines using your own sub card there is a lot of channel swapping required to get the SD channels in a reasonable order with the FTA HD channels from BBC and C4 in the right place.

Sorry for confusing you.

Yes I am using Autobouquet E2

I just liked the look of STB's over mine.

Compare image 3 and 4. STB's writing is much clearer (image 4), easier to read. And STB's is showing Picons whereas mine is not. And mine is showing channel numbers and STB's is not.

Likewise in image 5 and 6. The writing in mine (image 5) is not as good as STBs. And STB's picons are much clearer than mine and I have channel numbers whereas he has not.

Would love to get them in the same order like STB too, but one step at a time

Cheers.

fat-tony

Ok - understand the issue about bloat and memory etc., but the things I saw different were picons and channel numbers. The presence or absence of picons and channel numbers is controlled by Menu / System / Channel Selection Settings, where you can specify what you want shown. The picon set is probably different than STB's - there are loads of them on the ViX feeds. Again, you may have different font set or relative sizing of the EPG blocks, again configurable. Lastly, your HDMI settings may be different, depending on your TV capability. I use 1080p 50Hz on my Sony LCD TV - your settings may be different.

STB

fat-tony wrote: »

Ok - understand the issue about bloat and memory etc., but the things I saw different were picons and channel numbers. The presence or absence of picons and channel numbers is controlled by Menu / System / Channel Selection Settings, where you can specify what you want shown. The picon set is probably different than STB's - there are loads of them on the ViX feeds. Again, you may have different font set or relative sizing of the EPG blocks, again configurable. Lastly, your HDMI settings may be different, depending on your TV capability. I use 1080p 50Hz on my Sony LCD TV - your settings may be different.

Picons are oscram shd transparent white no paddding.

Settings tweaked below for graphical epg (guide, press menu) and channel selection settings (up button, press menu).

Additional Graphical EPG Settings (not seen in photo) are Timeline font=-1 Timeline 24 hours, yes abd time scale 120 minutes.

micks_address

Hi guys, where is the best place to download this skin? I'm on solo 2, apollo vix

Thanks
Mick

iba

micks_address wrote: »

Hi guys, where is the best place to download this skin? I'm on solo 2, apollo vix

Thanks
Mick

It is in the feeds/plugins under skins.

What skin you on atm, post some screen shots if you like

micks_address

iba wrote: »

It is in the feeds/plugins under skins.

What skin you on atm, post some screen shots if you like

Standard VIX skin.. i dont see mymetrix under plugins?

STB

micks_address wrote: »

Standard VIX skin.. i dont see mymetrix under plugins?

If you are talking about the Blue One (very Skyish) in this thread, its called Blue HD. One installed you must go into your Skins on the menu and choose it. Your box will then be prompted to reboot.

iba

micks_address wrote: »

Standard VIX skin.. i dont see mymetrix under plugins?

Ah, I did not know you were asking about MyMetrix.

Apparently it is wrongly named in the plugins/feeds (fbradyirl helped me with that) - it is called matrixhd

iba

STB wrote: »

Will do.

In the info menu in Vix, it will tell you how much of the flash is being used. This is stuff physically stored on the internal flash. (this is what gets eaten up by picons). The other pic you posted is available memory.

Flash memory - looks a bit full - have not got round to the other stuff yet (wife hogging TV)

fat-tony

@iba - that screengrab is a bit small and unreadable. Can you select High Resolution in the screengrab in Webif and you will get a bigger image.

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

@iba - that screengrab is a bit small and unreadable. Can you select High Resolution in the screengrab in Webif and you will get a bigger image.

Now you know why I was looking for STB's settings lol

Didn't know about the HS button, thanks.



Hope this is better

iba

@Fat-Tony - I do not know how to get it big like yours, I use a programme called Gyazo to copy and paste shots.

fat-tony

iba wrote: »

@Fat-Tony - I do not know how to get it big like yours :P...

I assume you're using the Webif to grab a screenshot in the first place?

I just right-clicked and saved image into a folder, then uploaded it. I see yours is not an actual attachment - are you copy/pasting it some way?

micks_address

Hi guys I installed blue HD buy for some reason can't see my recorded list any more. Just a blue screen when I go in there
Any ideas?
Cheers
Mick

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

I assume you're using the Webif to grab a screenshot in the first place?

I just right-clicked and saved image into a folder, then uploaded it. I see yours is not an actual attachment - are you copy/pasting it some way?

Ah, I didnt know you could just copy and paste direct from webif

I use https://gyazo.com/ to save it then copy and paste it from there - obviously I am taking the unnecessary long way around.

So I guess you could not read it again - I will do it again tonite using your way

iba

micks_address wrote: »

Hi guys I installed blue HD buy for some reason can't see my recorded list any more. Just a blue screen when I go in there
Any ideas?
Cheers
Mick

Hi,

I'm afraid I don't, maybe the others will.

Post pics, it always helps.

Cheers

iba

I did a factory reset on the box to try and get rid of any unwanted files and clean up the box.

And then I did a new flash.

I removed the USB key where picons and backup etc are stored before doing the flash.

But when I did the flash it said that a backup had been detected and did I want to restore it. I guess I must have stored a backup on the flash before I learnt how to do it on the USB

How can I delete this unwanted backup please?

I did free up some memory though, 50.8m now, previously it was 39.4





Edit: Scratch the above, I found how to delete

fat-tony

Ok - storing image backups on the flash memory of the box will certainly eat up space!

iba

I just did a fresh install of Apollo 14 and reinstalled everything, just a few tweaks to go but going to bed now. This is what I ended up with:

radiowaves

fat-tony wrote: »

Ok - storing image backups on the flash memory of the box will certainly eat up space!

Backups are stored on the hard drive (or USB).

If they were stored in flash it couldn't have been detected after the box was wiped

fat-tony

iba said he removed the usb key where the backups were stored before flashing and the flash detected the presence of a backup. Therefore he had stored the backup somewhere in the filesystem of the box and was doing an upgrade rather than a full flash (or perhaps he stored it on the USB key that he was using to store the image?). It confused me also, because a proper flash of the box would normally involve the bootloader deleting the entire filesystem on the box by formatting the partitions. iba has had issues where he was running short of flash memory, so perhaps he had stored things in flash rather than on external usb?

radiowaves

fat-tony wrote: »

iba said he removed the usb key where the backups were stored before flashing and the flash detected the presence of a backup. Therefore he had stored the backup somewhere in the filesystem of the box and was doing an upgrade rather than a full flash (or perhaps he stored it on the USB key that he was using to store the image?). It confused me also, because a proper flash of the box would normally involve the bootloader deleting the entire filesystem on the box by formatting the partitions. iba has had issues where he was running short of flash memory, so perhaps he had stored things in flash rather than on external usb?

I kind of see that now.

He says he did a new flash and then discovered a backup.

iba

Hi Guys,

I too thought a factory restore would wipe everything including any backups that I had inadvertently stored in the box.

Storing backup on the box was a mistake that I made when I was learning. I know now how to save them on the USB.

In this instance though, I had removed the USB stick and the box found a restore file still on the box. (The wizard popped up asking me if I wanted to restore the backup).

I went into backup manager, saw the backup file and deleted.

But now that you mention 'perhaps he stored it on the USB key that he was using to store the image' - maybe, just maybe that was it - I cannot remember for certain now

Cheers

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

Hi Guys,

I too thought a factory restore would wipe everything including any backups that I had inadvertently stored in the box.

Storing backup on the box was a mistake that I made when I was learning. I know now how to save them on the USB.

In this instance though, I had removed the USB stick and the box found a restore file still on the box. (The wizard popped up asking me if I wanted to restore the backup).

I went into backup manager, saw the backup file and deleted.

But now that you mention 'perhaps he stored it on the USB key that he was using to store the image' - maybe, just maybe that was it - I cannot remember for certain now

Cheers

If it was only on the USB stick the box couldn't have discovered it during the new flash because the USB stick was not plugged in.

You don't have a Hard Drive apart from the USB stick (discovered that after my post above) so the backup could only have been in flash memory.

iba

radiowaves wrote: »

If it was only on the USB stick the box couldn't have discovered it during the new flash because the USB stick was not plugged in.

You don't have a Hard Drive apart from the USB stick (discovered that after my post above) so the backup could only have been in flash memory.

The USB stick which normally stores the Picons, EPG etc was plugged out but maybe, just maybe, I might also have had a copy of a backup on the USB stick that I had the new image on. Not 100% sure though.

radiowaves

iba wrote: »

The USB stick which normally stores the Picons, EPG etc was plugged out but maybe, just maybe, I might also have had a copy of a backup on the USB stick that I had the new image on. Not 100% sure though.

A recipe for disaster that mate.

Always (always) format your stick - full format too - before using for flashing

fat-tony

I disagree with that entirely radiowaves. My USB stick has images for two different boxes on it, plus picons and other assorted bits and pieces. I just replace the old image with the new image for the relevant box - no issues. Stick was formatted once, the folders for the Quad and Miraclebox are replaced as required, no futher formatting done. You do need to be very sure and check what version of the image you have on the stick, though.

radiowaves

fat-tony wrote: »

I disagree with that entirely radiowaves. My USB stick has images for two different boxes on it, plus picons and other assorted bits and pieces. I just replace the old image with the new image for the relevant box - no issues. Stick was formatted once, the folders for the Quad and Miraclebox are replaced as required, no futher formatting done. You do need to be very sure and check what version of the image you have on the stick, though.

Why do you disagree?

Just because you have not yet had issues doesn't mean it shouldn't be done

By not formatting your stick before each new flash you are increasing the risk of causing problems through corruption - that is your choice but you really shouldn't be stating on a thread offering advice that it's ok to do it your way just because you haven't had problems.

Advice to all - fully format your stick before you flash a new image to any box. You are risking problems if you don't.

fat-tony

Just a different opinion. Why format each time if you have a working stick? If you have a process which requires you to format the stick, then fine. It's more important to find a usb stick that works consistently with your particular box and stick with it each time. Once you check that you have an updated image and are not re-flashing an old one then you should be ok. If the flash fails - which it can, whether you have formatted the stick beforehand or not, then you just reflash. In the event of a corrupt flash, the bootloader will erase the data during a reflash. It's worked for me through dozens of flashes whether OpenMIPS, OpenATV, OpenRSI and now OpenViX. If I reformatted the stick every time, I would have to reload the picon set I use for basic testing each time also. I find it quicker and easier to just replace the image, that all. Each to his/her own:)

radiowaves

fat-tony wrote: »

Just a different opinion. Why format each time if you have a working stick? If you have a process which requires you to format the stick, then fine. It's more important to find a usb stick that works consistently with your particular box and stick with it each time. Once you check that you have an updated image and are not re-flashing an old one then you should be ok. If the flash fails - which it can, whether you have formatted the stick beforehand or not, then you just reflash. In the event of a corrupt flash, the bootloader will erase the data during a reflash. It's worked for me through dozens of flashes whether OpenMIPS, OpenATV, OpenRSI and now OpenViX. If I reformatted the stick every time, I would have to reload the picon set I use for basic testing each time also. I find it quicker and easier to just replace the image, that all. Each to his/her own:)

Asking for trouble in my opinion but we'll agree to disagree

iba

Nearly the same as STBs, but the station numbers are still there. How do I get rid of them i.e. the 101, 102, 103

iba

Likewsie, how do I get rid of 101, 102, 103 in this:

fat-tony

Have you tried turning off the channel number display in the channel list menu? Menu - Setup/System/Channel Selection settings

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

Have you tried turning off the channel number display in the channel list menu? Menu - Setup/System/Channel Selection settings

Ok, I changed 'Show channell numbers in channell selction' to 'No' but it did not make a difference.

I have all my Channel Selection Settings set to teh exact same as STB has his.

fat-tony

Works for me in the standard skin and using an ordinary scan or using ABM. The only thing I can think of is that E2 Autobouquets (which STB does not use iirc) is adding the channel number to the channel name?
I'll try using AB tomorrow and see if that's the case, but bedtime now!

iba

fat-tony wrote: »

Works for me in the standard skin and using an ordinary scan or using ABM. The only thing I can think of is that E2 Autobouquets (which STB does not use iirc) is adding the channel number to the channel name?
I'll try using AB tomorrow and see if that's the case, but bedtime now!

Yeah, that is probably the reason.

Well my next big job is to learn how to use DreamboxEdit

fat-tony

@iba - there is a setting in E2 AB regarding channel numbers:

- Show Channel Numbers
puts epg position number in front of the channel names.

This is probably what you need to unset in E2 AB to get rid of your spurious numbers. The number becomes part of the channel name text, so the ViX channel selection setting can't hide it.
By the way, there is a newer version of E2 AB added to the ViX feeds this morning.