Do they even know what the point of the charade is meant to be?

henryporter

So my neighbour drops in this evening, asks me to look after his dog as he's got to go back to the hospital to be with his wife who got hit by a car and left with a broken ankle and fractured wrist. Turns out two 'old boys' on the way to mass came round a corner and instead of veering clear, steered directly into the poor woman and knocking her into a ditch. So the men get out and help her from the ditch where they had put her and then proceeded to inform her that they would look about her on their return from mass!!!

Is it only us atheists who believe in the Good Samaritan concept or is it that it is more important to be perceived to partake in the charade that is organised religion. Regardless of ones 'creed' surely the concern for a fellow human being is the most sacrosanct?

GCU Flexible Demeanour

In fairness, they were offering a faster response than a Donegal Garda.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/11m-in-payouts-for-55-victims-of-donegal-garda-corruption-26469346.html

Nodin

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

In fairness, they were offering a faster response than a Donegal Garda.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/11m-in-payouts-for-55-victims-of-donegal-garda-corruption-26469346.html

.....?

Czarcasm

henryporter wrote: »

So my neighbour drops in this evening, asks me to look after his dog as he's got to go back to the hospital to be with his wife who got hit by a car and left with a broken ankle and fractured wrist. Turns out two 'old boys' on the way to mass came round a corner and instead of veering clear, steered directly into the poor woman and knocking her into a ditch. So the men get out and help her from the ditch where they had put her and then proceeded to inform her that they would look about her on their return from mass!!!

Is it only us atheists who believe in the Good Samaritan concept or is it that it is more important to be perceived to partake in the charade that is organised religion. Regardless of ones 'creed' surely the concern for a fellow human being is the most sacrosanct?

So, how is your neighbors wife then? It's quite telling of your own attitude that you seem more concerned with judging the behavior of the two men than even a cursory endnote about the welfare of your neighbors wife.

"Beam in thine own eye", not just a religious concept

I wouldn't go conflating your attitude with atheism either btw, atheism is merely an absence of belief in a deity, nothing to do with judging yourself to be morally superior to your fellow human beings.

Gordon

henryporter wrote: »

So my neighbour drops in this evening, asks me to look after his dog as he's got to go back to the hospital to be with his wife who got hit by a car and left with a broken ankle and fractured wrist. Turns out two 'old boys' on the way to mass came round a corner and instead of veering clear, steered directly into the poor woman and knocking her into a ditch. So the men get out and help her from the ditch where they had put her and then proceeded to inform her that they would look about her on their return from mass!!!

Is it only us atheists who believe in the Good Samaritan concept or is it that it is more important to be perceived to partake in the charade that is organised religion. Regardless of ones 'creed' surely the concern for a fellow human being is the most sacrosanct?

Need to know more about the intricacies of what happened. Did they wait for the ambulance or did she get driven to hospital? Strange that there was a rtc and the driver didn't hang around for breathalyser, or is that not normal in this scenario? More info needed, sounds like your neighbour may have been too rushed to clarify.

GCU Flexible Demeanour

Nodin wrote: »

.....?

If the McBrearty case really means nothing to you, you can google "Morris Tribunal".

Nodin

GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »

If the McBrearty case really means nothing to you, you can google "Morris Tribunal".

I'm aware of it. I just don't see wtf it has to do with the first post. Fair enough if the Morris tribunal came out last week.....

GCU Flexible Demeanour

Nodin wrote: »

I just don't see wtf it has to do with the first post.

And, strangely enough, I find I don't care.

endacl

What's this thread about, then?

henryporter

Oh dear - seems everyone on this thread rushes to be judgemental - I spoke twice with my neighbour this evening, the first to make sure that I would take care of the dog, the second to get keys, etc. On the first occasion I enquired how his Mrs was - so whoever is trying to gain some pathetic moral higher upper ground by insinuating that I was indifferent in my first post should have a look at themselves first rather that me, oh wait it happens to be the same smartar$e thinking they have the monopoly on religious or anti-religious viewpoints.

To anyone else who posted who haven't joined the dots, it's simple: guy on the way to mass hits someone and instead of making sure they are ok, f*cks off to mass to grab a bit of gospel or whatever. No waiting for an ambulance or the Gardai, only off to hear the word of 'the lord'.

henryporter

henryporter wrote: »

Is it only us atheists who believe in the Good Samaritan concept or is it that it is more important to be perceived to partake in the charade that is organised religion. Regardless of ones 'creed' surely the concern for a fellow human being is the most sacrosanct?

henryporter wrote: »

Oh dear - seems everyone on this thread rushes to be judgemental

No, really?!

whupdedo

henryporter wrote: »

Oh dear - seems everyone on this thread rushes to be judgemental - I spoke twice with my neighbour this evening, the first to make sure that I would take care of the dog, the second to get keys, etc. On the first occasion I enquired how his Mrs was - so whoever is trying to gain some pathetic moral higher upper ground by insinuating that I was indifferent in my first post should have a look at themselves first rather that me, oh wait it happens to be the same smartar$e thinking they have the monopoly on religious or anti-religious viewpoints.

To anyone else who posted who haven't joined the dots, it's simple: guy on the way to mass hits someone and instead of making sure they are ok, f*cks off to mass to grab a bit of gospel or whatever. No waiting for an ambulance or the Gardai, only off to hear the word of 'the lord'.

And if they were off to a soccer game would you view the world cup fans the same?

Czarcasm

henryporter wrote: »

Oh dear - seems everyone on this thread rushes to be judgemental - I spoke twice with my neighbour this evening, the first to make sure that I would take care of the dog, the second to get keys, etc. On the first occasion I enquired how his Mrs was - so whoever is trying to gain some pathetic moral higher upper ground by insinuating that I was indifferent in my first post should have a look at themselves first rather that me, oh wait it happens to be the same smartar$e thinking they have the monopoly on religious or anti-religious viewpoints.

Given your OP, I presume the irony of the above statement is lost on you there henry.

To anyone else who posted who haven't joined the dots, it's simple: guy on the way to mass hits someone and instead of making sure they are ok, f*cks off to mass to grab a bit of gospel or whatever. No waiting for an ambulance or the Gardai, only off to hear the word of 'the lord'.

henry I'm going to say this now with your best interests in mind -

On a public forum, you're perpetuating accusations that two members of the public (there were two men in the car, not just one guy?), left the scene of a hit and run accident. It wouldn't take a genius to join the dots and figure out whether or not you merely fabricated your story to get a bit of a religion bashing thread going.

You've quickly discovered however, that there is no 'us' in atheism, but given the forum you posted in, you're mistaking a lack of evidence for what you perceive to be judgment.

I think your opening post in it's own right displays an horrific lack of judgement, and it might be better for your own sake and the sake of the forum if the Moderators pretend this thread never happened.

eviltwin

Leaving an injured person is the act of an arsehole but I doubt that kind of person would have cared mass or no mass. They didn't do this because they are catholic, they did it because they are pricks.

endacl

gctest50 wrote: »

Its a hit and run

It's a shockin' holy disgrace!

henryporter

Czarcasm wrote: »

Given your OP, I presume the irony of the above statement is lost on you there henry.





henry I'm going to say this now with your best interests in mind -

On a public forum, you're perpetuating accusations that two members of the public (there were two men in the car, not just one guy?), left the scene of a hit and run accident. It wouldn't take a genius to join the dots and figure out whether or not you merely fabricated your story to get a bit of a religion bashing thread going.

You've quickly discovered however, that there is no 'us' in atheism, but given the forum you posted in, you're mistaking a lack of evidence for what you perceive to be judgment.

I think your opening post in it's own right displays an horrific lack of judgement, and it might be better for your own sake and the sake of the forum if the Moderators pretend this thread never happened.

Don't know what I have to gain by fabricating such a story, you on the other hand seem hell bent on discrediting me and the facts that I presented, as presented to me by the victims husband. The simple fact that someone left the scene of a traffic accident without waiting for the Gardai or an ambulance, in order to get to mass, are the only facts I have given. That I then proceed to draw a conclusion about the irony of these individual's religious beliefs and their actions only to be attacked by you beggars belief. And I'm the one being accused of self righteousness - the irony continues...

Bannasidhe

Well, this thread quickly lost control and crashed.

Was anyone hurt?

robindch

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Well, this thread quickly lost control and crashed. Was anyone hurt?

Didn't hang around to find out.