cattle movement permits

mickdw

Quick question.
im familiar with the permit setup in general. 3 parts, one for departure herd, one for destination and one to send to department.
my question. Brother recently got a calf from a dealer and he just arrived with an a4 sheet that appears to be from electronic registration system that dealers use. It was marked as destination herd copy which all sounds good but in the small price at the bottom it said it was responsibility of destination herd owner to notify movement to registration database.
Does he have to do anything?
Is this standard practice nowadays?

simx

mickdw wrote: »

Quick question.
im familiar with the permit setup in general. 3 parts, one for departure herd, one for destination and one to send to department.
my question. Brother recently got a calf from a dealer and he just arrived with an a4 sheet that appears to be from electronic registration system that dealers use. It was marked as destination herd copy which all sounds good but in the small price at the bottom it said it was responsibility of destination herd owner to notify movement to registration database.
Does he have to do anything?
Is this standard practice nowadays?

Never seen what kind of form dealers have but I'd imagine it's something similar to that of a knackery, maybe not, I don't think he has anything to do now

allbuiz

If he is set up on agfood.ie he can see if he is within herd

whelan2

mickdw wrote: »

Quick question.
im familiar with the permit setup in general. 3 parts, one for departure herd, one for destination and one to send to department.
my question. Brother recently got a calf from a dealer and he just arrived with an a4 sheet that appears to be from electronic registration system that dealers use. It was marked as destination herd copy which all sounds good but in the small price at the bottom it said it was responsibility of destination herd owner to notify movement to registration database.
Does he have to do anything?
Is this standard practice nowadays?

yes the dealer or previous owner must have gotten the movement permit on line. When i sell any animal I make sure the movement part is posted myself that way i know its done. If you are not registered on agfood you could ring cattle movements office in cork quoting the reference number on the movement permit and just check that it went through, just to be sure

golfhead

If the permit was obtained from SWS, then it will be a single perforated form which can be separated as you describe.

If it was obtained online from agfood, then the permit consists of 3 A4 pages.

mickdw

golfhead wrote: »

If the permit was obtained from SWS, then it will be a single perforated form which can be separated as you describe.

If it was obtained online from agfood, then the permit consists of 3 A4 pages.

Yes I take it brother got 1 page of the 3 page online permit as it said it was the destination copy.
I guess it would be no harm to check up to see if animal went into herd anyway.

Farrell

Quick Question
There was a Movement permit created about a month ago.
On the day, 1 of the animals could not be moved, & was not transferred.
The animal is now ready to be transferred, is a new permit needed? or can the original be used?

whelan2

Farrell wrote: »

Quick Question
There was a Movement permit created about a month ago.
On the day, 1 of the animals could not be moved, & was not transferred.
The animal is now ready to be transferred, is a new permit needed? or can the original be used?

check if the movement permit is still in date

Farrell

whelan2 wrote: »

check if the movement permit is still in date

Good thinking, just checked out of date yesterday. Guess need a new one so. Thanks

Bullocks

Farrell wrote: »

Good thinking, just checked out of date yesterday. Guess need a new one so. Thanks

I know it's not to the letter of the law but for the sake of 1 day would you chance moving anyhow ?

Milked out

Farrell wrote: »

Good thinking, just checked out of date yesterday. Guess need a new one so. Thanks

Are u on agfood, if so just a case of printing it off

whelan2

Milked out wrote: »

Are u on agfood, if so just a case of printing it off

will agfood let you print it off if its out of date?

Milked out

whelan2 wrote: »

will agfood let you print it off if its out of date?

I assume if that one is out of date it's void so just apply for a new one on agfood then, it will either say it's approved or else it will give a reason why not. Can print it straight away then, I think anyway

Farrell

Bullocks wrote: »

I know it's not to the letter of the law but for the sake of 1 day would you chance moving anyhow ?

Have another done now.
Probably could of used old one & said moved yesterday, but best do right & ensure no comeback