People who use green diesel

jca

Definitely. Lies.

Bandara

Fred is a bit of a Walter Mitty Character

Fred Swanson

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Jesus.

Fred you're scaremongering mate.

Fred Swanson

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JohnBoy26

Id believe the bit where they had "broken the cap"

I know they tried to force the fuel flap open on the car of someone I know. this person was just a short distance away when they tried to do this. They never even approached to ask who's car it was, or to ask for the fuel flap to be opened.

instead they forced ahead regardless. Crazy stuff Imo.

The Dagda

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Id believe the bit where they had "broken the cap"

I know they tried to force the fuel flap open on the car of someone I know. this person was just a short distance away when they tried to do this. They never even approached to ask who's car it was, or to ask for the fuel flap to be opened.

instead they forced ahead regardless. Crazy stuff Imo.

You're making this up too.

goz83

Interesting thread. Sounds like the green stuff is not worth the hassle, even if the chances of getting caught are slim. I prefer driving my car, not worrying about being on the other side of the law. Why pay tax, insurance and nct/doe, only to get done for the fuel used?

Regarding the green dye remaining in the tank for months......i suspect this is from dilution. If the tank was allowed to go to empty a couple of times and filled with clean diesel, the dye would not be present.

Bandara

goz83 wrote: »

Interesting thread. Sounds like the green stuff is not worth the hassle, even if the chances of getting caught are slim. I prefer driving my car, not worrying about being on the other side of the law. Why pay tax, insurance and nct/doe, only to get done for the fuel used?

Regarding the green dye remaining in the tank for months......i suspect this is from dilution. If the tank was allowed to go to empty a couple of times and filled with clean diesel, the dye would not be present.

Goz, the dye remains for 6-9 months, this is based on the tank being filled and emptied in the normal driving method with clean diesel during this time

In short, it's not something you can run out easily at all

corktina

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I agree that is too far, however also I think they aren't actually your experiences, and I wouldn't rely on third hand info personally.

corktina

Bandara wrote: »

Fred is a bit of a Walter Mitty Character

Walter Mitty has reported this post I hear :-)

Bandara

corktina wrote: »

Walter Mitty has reported this post I hear :-)

Figures, anything for attention seems to be modus operandi

johndaman66

Green diesel, isin't it red in colour I do believe and sometimes referred to as red diesel or agri diesel? Reason its called green diesel is because of its use in agricultural vehicles and machinery? Just making them points as I feel many seem to think its green in colour....do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

Used to use it quite regularly in my first wheels, being a diesel van but thankfully was never caught. My mother, known that I used it, used to be telling me a neighbour down the road was done for it and was fined £1,000 punts at the time and put of the road for a year....The monetary fine alone at the time would have being a sizeable sum. Maybe this was just scaremongering on my mothers part in an attempt to scare me enough to stop using it or maybe that neighbour was flouting additional laws. Short of asking him himself which I'm not going to do I reckon I'll never know.

Not too terribly long after changing that van for a petrol car I cam across a Customs checkpoint where they were dipping for green diesel. I do live in a pretty rural farming area and do a considerable amount of driving...it was the first and only time I seen customs checking for green diesel.

I've only seen a customers checkpoint twice in 11 years of driving (and didn't see them as a passenger neither before that.

First one I was driving a tractor and was waved through, funny thing is that in hindsight there could have been hassle as I was moving machines for a construction company and was running on green which I think isn't technically allowed.

Second one I tuned when I saw it as I was on UK plates :pac:

paulmclaughlin

johndaman66 wrote: »

Green diesel, isin't it red in colour I do believe and sometimes referred to as red diesel or agri diesel? Reason its called green diesel is because of its use in agricultural vehicles and machinery? Just making them points as I feel many seem to think its green in colour....do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

The dye used is green in the Republic and red up North.

Soarer

If you're caught using it, they take the car yeah?

So will they keep the car in lieu of the fine? And if the car is worth less than the fine, just leave them off lik the road tax?

Bandara

Soarer wrote: »

If you're caught using it, they take the car yeah?

So will they keep the car in lieu of the fine? And if the car is worth less than the fine, just leave them off lik the road tax?

Your still liable for the full amount of the fine

andy t

see a good few check points these days...

not really worth the risk

Cedrus

Had a neighbour in C&E years ago, he was obsessed with marked diesel and would dip the tanks of any diesel cars visiting our estate, at night (before lockable caps were common). I remember browsing a book in Easons called "Irish Eccentrics" and he was in it.

A lot of the C&E guys are obsessive fantasists who think they're Elliott Ness.

gizmo555

andy t wrote: »

see a good few check points these days...

not really worth the risk

In more than 25 years driving, I've only ever seen one. I don't use marked diesel on the road, but the risk of meeting a checkpoint certainly wouldn't deter me if I did.

AugustusMinimus

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They got him again with an old jeep that wasn't even taxed & insured and was only used for going up the fields. He got fined €2,500 X 2 - €5k in total. There was no mercy. Revenue are going for the maximum fines every time, I presume to act as a deterrent.

On what basis did he get fined when the jeep in question wasn't being used on the road. You can use green diesel for anything except driving on the road.

Doesn't sound right at all.

pa990

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

On what basis did he get fined when the jeep in question wasn't being used on the road. You can use green diesel for anything except driving on the road.

Doesn't sound right at all.

Did C&E not dip various vehicles at Dublin airport, that are NOT used on public roads, back in 2007.

If i remember correctly, a lot were using Green, and the various companies involved were told to switch to white.

Sorry, cant find any links.

AugustusMinimus

pa990 wrote: »

Did C&E not dip various vehicles at Dublin airport, that are used on public roads, back in 2007.

If i remember correctly, a lot were using Green, and the various companies involved were told to switch to white.

Sorry, cant find any links.

You mean "not on public roads" ?

I presume the green diesel was being used in aeroplane tugs and the like ? Not sure what the regulations would say in this instance.

I'd be amazed though if it were illegal to use green diesel in a jeep which is only being driven around on private property.

Can you use green diesel for autograss racing (if indeed there is a diesel class )

mullingar

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

Can you use green diesel for autograss racing (if indeed there is a diesel class )

I can see it now:

"I swear Mr C&E, some grass must have got in the tank to make it go that colour."

pa990

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

You mean "not on public roads" ?

I presume the green diesel was being used in aeroplane tugs and the like ? Not sure what the regulations would say in this instance.

I'd be amazed though if it were illegal to use green diesel in a jeep which is only being driven around on private property.

Can you use green diesel for autograss racing (if indeed there is a diesel class )

Yeah, the various service vehicles, catering trucks, etc that are NOT used on public roads, (i've corrected my post)

Maybe someone at the airport could shed some light on it

Joe 90

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

On what basis did he get fined when the jeep in question wasn't being used on the road. You can use green diesel for anything except driving on the road.

Doesn't sound right at all.

Nope. Most people think that. My old man got done years ago for using red, as it was then, diesel in a truck which was only ever used on a building site.

gctest50

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

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Can you use green diesel for autograss racing (if indeed there is a diesel class )

y not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24afjVqm2Uw