People who use green diesel

corkgsxr

I also hear everytime you fill up with green diesel a baby angel dies.

government research to back it up



The rumor mill has done more to stop people using green diesel than fines.

cabb8ge

MugMugs wrote: »

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It was smokier.

not applicable to present day

MugMugs

cabb8ge wrote: »

not applicable to present day

The remnants remain. It wasn't too long ago.

Fred Swanson

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HQ

MugMugs wrote: »

I went through a stage of being dipped monthly.

Haven't been done in a while though.

Is it not a case of once you use dyed diesel the dye can remain and taint the diesel for months after?

Fred Swanson

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corkgsxr

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Couldn't see it happening. Sorry just don't believe it

Fred Swanson

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CJhaughey

corkgsxr wrote: »

Couldn't see it happening. Sorry just don't believe it

Happened to my BIL.
No reason to disbelieve his version of events.

JohnBoy26

Imo the green stuff is far more dirty than the regular stuff. On tractors, unless the the filters are changed regularly they get blocked from the dirt in the diesel.

JBokeh

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Imo the green stuff is far more dirty than the regular stuff. On tractors, unless the the filters are changed regularly they get blocked from the dirt in the diesel.

Usually because you'd fill it from an old drum,or a plastic tank in the yard,which you'd have a better chance of getting dirt into,and therefore out of and into the tractor. You wouldn't fill the car from an old oil drum that you keep thrown in the corner of the garden,and if you did the filter would get blocked if you make a habit out of it,from drawing through a little bit of dirt every time

JohnBoy26

JBokeh wrote: »

Usually because you'd fill it from an old drum,or a plastic tank in the yard,which you'd have a better chance of getting dirt into,and therefore out of and into the tractor. You wouldn't fill the car from an old oil drum that you keep thrown in the corner of the garden,and if you did the filter would get blocked if you make a habit out of it,from drawing through a little bit of dirt every time

No I'm pretty sure it was in the diesel itself.

vandriver

New marking system later in the year.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/new-marker-to-be-used-to-combat-fuel-laundering-1.1690224

gctest50

MugMugs wrote: »

Or just stick a second tank into the wheel well and drain that leaving the "clean" stuff in the main tank.

If you have a second tank fitted they will/can seize the vehicle

Noccy_Mondy

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Imo the green stuff is far more dirty than the regular stuff. On tractors, unless the the filters are changed regularly they get blocked from the dirt in the diesel.

Ya, agree with you there. We have a proper tank with the same nozzle yoke as at petrol stations. The filter's do be in a bad state after a year (if they even last that long!!)

Then again, the filters that are put in wouldn't be the best.

dgt

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Imo the green stuff is far more dirty than the regular stuff. On tractors, unless the the filters are changed regularly they get blocked from the dirt in the diesel.

In many cases I've seen a good few tractors with thousands of hours with the filter never changed, only for the filter to come off and be relatively clean inside.

In contrast, I once got less than 5k miles from a filter on my car. The fathers van got it's filter clogged many times too, hence we carry spare filters.

Agri stuff I find is much cleaner than white. Seeing as we have a tractor, I should know

BnB

A few comments -

When I was up and down to Cork (from Limerick) I used to be stopped and dipped fairly regularly (About once a year) on the Mallow road. Haven't seen them now in about 4 years though. They would regularly hit the likes of Marts etc where they would meet a good few farmers.

A neighbour of mine got caught rotten about 3 years ago. He had a tipper truck dipped and caught on a building site. But then that evening they showed up and dipped everything at his house. They got him again with an old jeep that wasn't even taxed & insured and was only used for going up the fields. He got fined €2,500 X 2 - €5k in total. There was no mercy. Revenue are going for the maximum fines every time, I presume to act as a deterrent.

Another friend of mine refused to let them go messing with the filter on his van. He told them that if they came back with a Renault mechanic (it was a span new Renault van) they could do it. He had nothing to hide but he just didn't want some unqualified glorified administrator messing about under his bonnet. They weren't happy but dipped his tank and sodded off.

MugMugs

HQ wrote: »

Is it not a case of once you use dyed diesel the dye can remain and taint the diesel for months after?

I believe that to be correct. I must clarify however, what I mean by done is dipped. I don't use Agri Diesel.

gctest50 wrote: »

If you have a second tank fitted they will/can seize the vehicle

I imagine so. If they find it.

Fred Swanson

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Ryath

Was stopped last week between Moate and Athlone. Would see them a couple of times a year around Athlone. Have always been waved through before. He asked me where I buy my diesel. Had to point out I don't my car is petrol. 2008 2L Mondeo estate most people assume that class of car was diesel.

pred racer

I have been driving daysul cars now for about 15 years, I have yet to be dipped at a checkpoint. I havent even seen one in the last 2 yrs.
But.. My ex wife used to have a commercial discovery and she was stopped and dipped about once a month.

pa990

I meet on average 4 Customs checkpoints per year.
Never been dipped, probably because i've never owned a diesel.

corkgsxr

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Imo the green stuff is far more dirty than the regular stuff. On tractors, unless the the filters are changed regularly they get blocked from the dirt in the diesel.

Id say thats more state of the tanks than diesel

Idbatterim

my dad got caught with it on N61 in roscommon (just outside athlone), had run out of diesel for the hi ace, he has a tractor so just put a few litres in to get to the filling station about half a mile away, got stung, E1800, and it could have been a lot worse!

harbourmill

I am told that the sulpher content is a lot higher in the green stuff . the tolerances of the injection system in the modern diesel engine would not be able to cope with the higher sulpher content , road diesel is refined to meet EU emissions, containing additives, to improve efficiency. I am aware that you can now purchase low sulpher green stuff , but is it low enough not to cause a sulpher build up over a period of time ? If the car is an old diesel there should be no problem as the fuel system tolerances would not be as exact , i would not chance it in a modern diesel system. i have been driving diesel cars for 25 yrs, in the early days if customs suspected you had a second tank , they would take a sample from the fuel filter water drain plug. stopped and dipped twice in 25 yrs.

Pat Custard

carzony wrote: »

What's your opinions on this? I'v been driving petrol cars all my life but my neighbour recently bought a 00 passat 1.9tdi and for the first time ever he's been using the ''green stuff'' Apparently he's saving a fortune and doesnt really care about the damage to the engine as it's only a 00 yoke. He says he only needs it for a year or so.

Have many people here used it and if not would you?

Green diesel DOESN'T damage the engine.

It' the reagent that's used to remove green dye (if you use it) that damages then engine.

Pat Custard

What about making your own biodiesel at home??

Would this be liable to inspection / fining ??

I work up North, so what difference is it to fill up there or use Green diesel at home??

at least with green diesel the government are getting some revenue (however small) but with filling up up North, they are getting no revenue whatsoever.

Why should the government be able to FORCE you to use their heavily taxed fuel??

If I have a car that runs off farts they'd probably outlaw that.

R1_Pete

K.Flyer wrote: »

Putting Green diesel into his fuel tank won't do much or any harm to his car. Its the chemical process to remove the green dye is what can cause damage to engines.
The damage will be the problems he will have if his fuel tank is checked by Custom and Excise by the side of the road and the penalties he will incur.

I thought they only checked taxis, trucks and big commercials! Didnt realise they dip cars. Makes sense I guess but I am petrol all the way so no good to me : )

Fred Swanson

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Pat Custard

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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So it gets taxed anyway, so it defeats the purpose of making it in the first place ... why bother then?