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Possibly fake Naked 2 palette.

  • 07-06-2014 3:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭


    My mother bought me Urban Decay Naked 2 palette for Christmas and I've been having great fun experimenting with all the colours.

    But today, while browsing tutorials online, I came across a video titled "How to spot a fake Naked 2 palette" and I watched with interest as the girl in the video compared a fake palette and a real Naked 2 one.

    She pointed out that the brush, for example, in the fake one didn't have Naked 2 printed on it.
    She also pointed out that there was no code printed on the back of the fake palette; she mentioned when you open the palette, where the hinge is, there should be three dots and there's only two on the fake one.

    She also showed us the colours and the subtle differences in the shades, but the one that really showed up was Verve which, in the fake one, wasn't as shimmery as the real one.

    After watching the video, I realised my palette is probably fake because it has all the mentioned issues.

    But what confuses me is that my mother would definitely have purchased it from a reputable store, i.e Debenhams/Brown Thomas.
    There's no point asking how I'm sure-I am sure, she only goes to those shops and because it's for her daughter she would want the best.
    She doesn't go to markets or dodgy places and always buys the best of things.

    I'm a bit down about this now and wonder how this happened.

    For those of you who own the Naked 2 palette, can you tell me if the word "Naked 2" is printed on the brush and if you have any of the issues I mentioned.

    I'm clinging onto the hope that because the video I watched was American, there might be slight differences in the palettes here.

    Thanks for reading and I look forward to any replies.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭janja


    Hi there
    Just checked mine and naked 2 is written on the brush, code on back but only two dots near hinge on box. Verve is very shimmery.
    Janja


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    janja wrote: »
    Hi there
    Just checked mine and naked 2 is written on the brush, code on back but only two dots near hinge on box. Verve is very shimmery.
    Janja

    Thanks for your reply.
    The VERVE on my palette is silvery but not super-shimmery like it is when you watch tutorials online.
    My brush is a rose-gold colour but doesn't have NAKED 2 URBAN DECAY printed on it.

    I wonder how this happened. Like I said, my mother is one of those people who would only go to department stores for stuff like this and she's purchased the same palette for my sister in Brown Thomas before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply.
    The VERVE on my palette is silvery but not super-shimmery like it is when you watch tutorials online.
    My brush is a rose-gold colour but doesn't have NAKED 2 URBAN DECAY printed on it.

    I wonder how this happened. Like I said, my mother is one of those people who would only go to department stores for stuff like this and she's purchased the same palette for my sister in Brown Thomas before.

    You can't really be 100% sure unless you ask your mother where she bought it.

    It may just be that there are slight variations in the packaging :) I have the Naked 2 pallette. I'll have a look at it when I get home and let you know :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    Hi OP, I don't know a lot about the palette but I know there are loads of the fake ones being sold on FB selling sites at the moment. They look v authentic but can't see how they'd have made their way into a shop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    I bought what I thought was a cheap unbranded nude palette on ebay for under a fiver recently and what arrived was a Naked 2 Urban Decay. I knew it was either stolen goods or fake. But if it's fake, I don't get it, the eyeshadows are great in it. Definitely worth a fiver! I'm not clear on what the scam is, particularly as I didn't even buy it as a branded item, there was only a pic of the eyeshadows, not the packaging on the sellers page. I thought I was getting the equivalent of a Penneys eyeshadow palette. What arrived was much better, even if it's fake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    janja wrote: »
    Hi there
    Just checked mine and naked 2 is written on the brush, code on back but only two dots near hinge on box. Verve is very shimmery.
    Janja

    Mine is real, I bought it myself in House of Fraser and it's exactly like this. 2 dots near hinge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Mine has only 2 dots near the hinge, and i can't see a code on the back (although there is writing there). Verve looks very shiny but not glittery as such. The brush is printed with 'Naked 2' and 'Urban Decay'.
    Mine came in a padded outer packaging sleeve, with a mini UD lipgloss in the pack (I presume it was a pre-Christmas promotion thingy?).
    Like you, FussyOnion, I'd be shocked if mine was bought anywhere other than Debenhams or BT (it was bought as a gift by a family member). The colours and brush are all high quality. I'd be very surprised if it was a fake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    anewme wrote: »
    Mine is real, I bought it myself in House of Fraser and it's exactly like this. 2 dots near hinge.

    Yes but apparently the real one has three dots at the hinge and the fake only has two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    We'll that's obviously incorrect. I am 100 confident that the palette I personally purchased in house of Fraser is real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    anewme wrote: »
    We'll that's obviously incorrect. I am 100 confident that the palette I personally purchased in house of Fraser is real.

    This blog post suggests that the fake has 3 holes at the hinge and the real has 2. Bit of an odd thing to compare but there are other items too.

    http://www.caughtinadaze.com/2012/06/real-naked-2-vs-fake-naked-2.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    In the video i looked at, both the real and the fake palette had 2 holes/indentations at the hinge (as does my palette).
    I'd say the packaging is probably the best indicator: did everyone else who got one before January/February of this year get the clear plastic fronted, heavily padded outer casing with a mini lipgloss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 BethG


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply.
    The VERVE on my palette is silvery but not super-shimmery like it is when you watch tutorials online.
    My brush is a rose-gold colour but doesn't have NAKED 2 URBAN DECAY printed on it.

    I wonder how this happened. Like I said, my mother is one of those people who would only go to department stores for stuff like this and she's purchased the same palette for my sister in Brown Thomas before.

    Best thing to do is to bring it into somewhere that sells UD and ask them to say yay or nay. Who's to say that the girl on the blogs is right? ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Had a good look at mine which I bought from UD in Debenhams.
    It has two dots at the hinge and the brush does have UD NAKED 2 printed on it.

    Fussy onion, maybe if you could post some pics of it, someone who works with UD or someone knowledgeable could tell you.

    Alternatively you could bring it to a counter and ask them to have a look/compare?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Had a good look at mine which I bought from UD in Debenhams.
    It has two dots at the hinge and the brush does have UD NAKED 2 printed on it.

    Fussy onion, maybe if you could post some pics of it, someone who works with UD or someone knowledgeable could tell you.

    Alternatively you could bring it to a counter and ask them to have a look/compare?

    I'll post some pics here if I'm allowed to, mods?

    And I could bring it to the UD counter but it's not going to get me my money back.
    Even if it IS fake, I have to say it's a pretty decent one..wore eyeshadow last night and the effect lasted for hours.

    Would just be pretty angry if my mother was sold a fake when she had no intention of buying a fake.
    I shall take some pics and post them here asap.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    Post away!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    OK here is pic1: 28l9bx3.jpg
    According to the videos that explain the differences, there is some slight difference with the letter "A" in the wording. I don't know...

    Pic2: According to the videos, the font on the fake Naked 2 is darker than the font on the real one: 2gy92tj.jpg

    Pic3: Apparently the words URBAN DECAY in this picture are supposed to be upside down if you've got a real one. They're not upside down in this pic: imv7z4.jpg

    Pic4: Here's the brush which has no wording on it at all: 346xj0l.jpg

    Pic5: Here's a pic of the colours inside. Apparently on the real palette, the names of the colours are positioned exactly centre under each colour. Mine are slightly off-centre: ve5esx.jpg

    Pic6: Here's another...is VERVE not as silvery? 2mp09zm.jpg

    Pic7: Here's a picture of the "dot" on the hinge middle. Mine has two. Apparently that's a sign? mvhjt0.jpg

    Pic8: Final pic of the palette in full: 239p1i.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    The bulges where the casing is coming apart, the off-centre text and the depth of the pans would set alarm bells ringing for me, as well as the fact that the brush looks quite different than the genuine article (the middle is a different colour than the ends).

    Edit: I've heard of a scam with make up where you buy and return a product in its original packaging, having replaced the product with a dupe. I wonder if this is what happened in your case :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    dee_mc wrote: »
    The bulges where the casing is coming apart, the off-centre text and the depth of the pans would set alarm bells ringing for me, as well as the fact that the brush looks quite different than the genuine article (the middle is a different colour than the ends).

    Edit: I've heard of a scam with make up where you buy and return a product in its original packaging, having replaced the product with a dupe. I wonder if this is what happened in your case :(

    This actually sounds plausible to me.
    My mother has only had her computer about nine months and she's pretty new to the Internet. Although she has bought DVDs and CDs online, I seriously doubt she'd know about buying make-up online.

    Plus she goes to the local shopping centre every day during her lunch-break and that's when she picks up gifts for people.

    When it comes to Urban Decay, she knows you can only buy it in certain stores and she has bought the same palette for my sister in Brown Thomas.
    That's why I'm convinced she would have bought mine there too.

    I will try and find out where she got it, but I'd ask subtly 'cos she'd be horrified and upset if she realised she'd been sold a dud.

    If, for some reason, she did get it online, I'd be convinced it was a fake, but your story could also be true, dee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    fussyonion wrote: »
    This actually sounds plausible to me.
    My mother has only had her computer about nine months and she's pretty new to the Internet. Although she has bought DVDs and CDs online, I seriously doubt she'd know about buying make-up online.

    Plus she goes to the local shopping centre every day during her lunch-break and that's when she picks up gifts for people.

    When it comes to Urban Decay, she knows you can only buy it in certain stores and she has bought the same palette for my sister in Brown Thomas.
    That's why I'm convinced she would have bought mine there too.

    I will try and find out where she got it, but I'd ask subtly 'cos she'd be horrified and upset if she realised she'd been sold a dud.

    If, for some reason, she did get it online, I'd be convinced it was a fake, but your story could also be true, dee.

    It's horrible to think of scams like that, I'm hesitant to buy make up online for that very reason.
    Keep us posted anyway, I'm glad the palette is at least usable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,058 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Just looked at mine again and the 2 main differences to yours are :

    The names of the shadows on mine are centred
    The brush in yours looks different, (no name etc)

    I also think the font on your cover looks definitely darker than mine

    Also agree about the way the case has gone a bit banjaxed....mine is perfect even though I hack it around.

    I will say if its a fake its a fairly good one


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,872 ✭✭✭Sittingpretty


    Fussy onion, I think your pallet is just fine.
    The shade names in mine are slightly right of centre and it looks exactly like yours.
    The lettering could've just worn off your brush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Thanks for the replies everyone.

    If this thread does anything I hope it just makes people aware of possible fakes on the market.
    Mine is a really good one..fake or not..I'm happy with the colours and they're long-lasting.

    When I buy another one (Naked 3 will be next on my list) I will definitely have my eyes peeled for possible discrepencies, though I reckon it'll be a while before I buy a new palette..this one will last me ages :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    That's my one, it does have the writing. Bought in Urban decay in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    That's my one, bought in Urban decay in town.

    A friend of mine bought one from Aliexpress website a while ago, it was about €8. Obviously fake!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    Just looked at mine which is either fake or stolen goods and the off centre shade names plus the two dots on hinge are the same as yours fussy onion but my brush has wording plus my verve isn't even a silvery shade at all! But I am further convinced it's fake because although the eye shadow in it looks good on, it breaks up a lot in the palette, like a cheapo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Just looked at mine which is either fake or stolen goods and the off centre shade names plus the two dots on hinge are the same as yours fussy onion but my brush has wording plus my verve isn't even a silvery shade at all! But I am further convinced it's fake because although the eye shadow in it looks good on, it breaks up a lot in the palette, like a cheapo.

    I'm sorry to hear that, username.
    My VERVE doesn't look that shimmery in real life--the photo I uploaded actually makes it look really silvery but it's not..it's more of a silvery grey.
    I'll just be extra careful in future.
    Sorry to hear yours breaks up :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    fussyonion wrote: »
    I'm sorry to hear that, username.
    My VERVE doesn't look that shimmery in real life--the photo I uploaded actually makes it look really silvery but it's not..it's more of a silvery grey.
    I'll just be extra careful in future.
    Sorry to hear yours breaks up :(

    Only one or two shades seem to break up. I'm not too pushed as I bought it listed as "nude palette 12 shades" on ebay for 4.85 or so. No mention of Urban Decay on the listing and the pics only showed a close up of colours so no view showing the whole palette.

    I was totally shocked when what arrived was what seemed like something way more expensive but obviously I knew it must be fake!

    The good news is that the colours are so nice I'm determined to buy the real deal as soon as the fake runs out, so the counterfeiters have actually created a customer for the genuine article - probably not the intended outcome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 jroche13


    I think mine is fake too, I bought it in Debenhams just over a month ago and the names of the colors are already fading off. I doubt this would happen with a real one, other than that the palette seemed authentic,I had no reason to think it was fake until this happened, i am very annoyed!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Out of curiosity I'm not wondering what naked palette I have.

    The case is like brown suede with gold NAKED urban decay on the front.

    It has a browny brush with naked decay printed along it in black, and some of the shades are gunmetal, smog and half baked.

    I have it a good 18 months, don't think I'll ever use it up

    Bought it on one of the many Ryanair flights I was on at the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Stheno wrote: »
    Out of curiosity I'm not wondering what naked palette I have.

    The case is like brown suede with gold NAKED urban decay on the front.

    It has a browny brush with naked decay printed along it in black, and some of the shades are gunmetal, smog and half baked.

    I have it a good 18 months, don't think I'll ever use it up

    Bought it on one of the many Ryanair flights I was on at the time.

    Those shades are in the first one anyway


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    dee_mc wrote: »
    Those shades are in the first one anyway

    Sounds like that's mine so.

    It also has virgin, sin, naked and sidecar

    It's also in great nick after nearly two years of being flung in suitcases etc

    Twas a great buy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Stheno wrote: »
    Sounds like that's mine so.

    It also has virgin, sin, naked and sidecar

    It's also in great nick after nearly two years of being flung in suitcases etc

    Twas a great buy

    Is it sad that I knew that even though I don't have that particular palette? Urban Decay rehab for me, methinks :P


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    dee_mc wrote: »
    Is it sad that I knew that even though I don't have that particular palette? Urban Decay rehab for me, methinks :P

    Nah you told me mine is one of the genuine ones.

    I don't wear eyeshadow everyday, but before this palette went through them like a knife through butter.

    This one has lasted an age

    My partners daughter covets it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,188 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Stheno wrote: »
    Nah you told me mine is one of the genuine ones.

    I don't wear eyeshadow everyday, but before this palette went through them like a knife through butter.

    This one has lasted an age

    My partners daughter covets it.

    Yeah my neighbour's teenage daughter is mad for mine, did her make up for the debs and she was soooo excited to get a go of it!
    Glad to put your mind at rest anyway :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Ah_Yeah


    OP you could ask your mother where she got the Naked Pallette as you're hoping to complete the collection and get 1 and 3? It wouldn't look suspect then?

    Stheno that's definitely Naked 1 that you have, I have it :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    Ah_Yeah wrote: »
    OP you could ask your mother where she got the Naked Pallette as you're hoping to complete the collection and get 1 and 3? It wouldn't look suspect then?

    Stheno that's definitely Naked 1 that you have, I have it :)

    She told me Debenhams but I actually brought the palette into Debenhams a few weeks back and the girls at the UD counter told me it's definitely fake.

    When I said my Mam bought it at Debenhams and that it could be possible she was given a fake because perhaps someone who bought a fake online had returned it instore for a refund, they said it wasn't possible as the palette wouldn't have scanned as part of their stock.

    I'm now thinking my Mam possibly bought it online OR at a pop-up shop (as suggested by the UD girls as fakes are often sold at pop-up shops/markets, especially around Christmas, which is when she bought it).

    I know for a fact my Mam would never knowingly buy a fake and would be mortified if she knew mine was fake. She possibly bought it for a good price and didn't want to tell me she bought it from a market/online/pop-up shop.

    I know in my heart she'd never buy a fake one knowingly, so I'm not going to mention this to her. The palette is fine but I know next time what I have to look for.

    The colours on my palette are not as intense as the genuine article; the UD girls showed me a real one and the difference is staggering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 jroche13


    I still think it may have been bought in Debenhams, maybe whoever returned it put the fake one into the original urban decay box that Debenhams sold theirs in? then it could still be scanned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    jroche13 wrote: »
    I still think it may have been bought in Debenhams, maybe whoever returned it put the fake one into the original urban decay box that Debenhams sold theirs in? then it could still be scanned.

    That's what I kept thinking.

    My mother is one of these people who will only buy goods from shops because she'd want the recipient of the gift (me or my sister) to have the genuine article.

    I've known her all my life, (obviously), I know her personality, I know how she thinks-I still believe her, that she bought it in Debenhams...after all, Debenhams are hardly going to admit it's possible she bought it there, are they?
    I'll just be more vigilant next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,729 ✭✭✭Millem


    fussyonion wrote: »
    That's what I kept thinking.

    My mother is one of these people who will only buy goods from shops because she'd want the recipient of the gift (me or my sister) to have the genuine article.

    I've known her all my life, (obviously), I know her personality, I know how she thinks-I still believe her, that she bought it in Debenhams...after all, Debenhams are hardly going to admit it's possible she bought it there, are they?
    I'll just be more vigilant next time.

    Fussyonion I have a friend who used to work in brown thomas she told me that people bring back fakes in real packaging and staff don't realise till after. I remember afew years ago it happened with a very very expensive designer handbag and they didn't realise till it was too late!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Ah_Yeah


    Debenhams would never admit to making a mistake like that!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭whatever76


    I have Naked Palette 2 - purchased over a year ago on Aer Lingus flight from New York ! Guess what ... it ticks all the boxes for being faked as described . Now I can fault the quality of the shadows but it defo is fake based on what was described... !! So yep they are out there for sure !!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭womandriver


    I have the naked 1, 2 and 3. Both 2 and 3 have only 2 pivots/indentations (naked 1 obvs. has none) on the case under the mirror. All bought by myself in Urban Decay and don't have any other of the characteristics of the fakes so I don't think the 2 instead of 3 as mentioned in the op is definitive. I've also seen youtube videos which say the real naked 2 has only 2 indentations and it's the fake that has 3.


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