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Desire to be slim vs desire to eat crap

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    diarmuid05 wrote: »
    You might be addicted to sugar???

    Some reports say it has a similar affect on the brain as cocaine........

    It's not working for me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    Henry94 wrote: »
    Here's my plan. I started out with the aim of staying off rubbish for 20 days in a month. Print out a calender and mark every successful day. It allows for the days when you fail without de-railing the whole plan. As it happened I never needed all ten days. The fist month I had five bad days. Since then I've been flying but the target is still 20 days.

    It's amazing how quickly sugar cravings go away once you stop taking it. My problem was always the hours between dinner and bed. I grazed away those hours on garbage. Biscuits, sweets crisps etc. I've learned to enjoy coffee and tea (no sugar) without having to eat anything with them. Major breakthrough.

    I've just come out of a meeting where someone brought back a big bag of sweets from their holiday. I just didn't take any because I wasn't willing to put a red X on today when I could be putting a green tic. My idea won't suit everybody but if it helped anybody I'd be delighted. Good luck whatever you do.

    That is a great idea! I can be quite competitive too so I love this idea.

    My problem is also this time too. Watching tv and wanting a treat :rolleyes:

    I started the 30day shred too and each day that I complete it I mark in on my calendar. Well 3 calendars in fact :) So I could make one of them for sweets.


  • Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Harmoni Brave Tyrant


    verywell wrote: »
    My problem is also this time too. Watching tv and wanting a treat :rolleyes:
    .

    I think once you recognise that a lot of it is habit that you need to break, you'll be doing well with that also
    Maybe have plain tea or do something else or just force yourself to get used to watching it without having something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    There's also the odd trick you can try..

    .. I find I get a craving for sugar around bed time, so I get me some sweet sugar of the missus :D but rather than eating biscuits, chocolate, cornflakes heaped with sugar, I always make sure I have a few juicy grapes in the fridge .. they contain natural sugars of course but they always do the trick and 5-10 mins later I'm out cold asleep.

    Brushing your teeth .. thats another one I use now and again. Seems to quell the cravings for a while for me anyway.

    Instead of drinking regular tea or coffee and thus the habit for a biscuit, try green tea, herbal tea etc ... hard to imagine dunking your biscuit into one of those, hence you break the habit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    I suppose really it is learning a new way of thinking.

    I just get so fed up of it all that I rebel (against myself :rolleyes:) and head to the shop and munch away.

    Then the cycle starts all over again :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    I always equate the piece of chocolate to the exercise/effort involved in burning off the same calories

    For example, a simple 2-finger kit-kat .. tasty little buggers, who eats just one of them right? I always have 2 or 3.
    Well each one is 102 calories.. or for me, that's 5 mins flat out on the treadmill.
    So if I eat 2 of them, that 10 mins on the treadmill just to breakeven. Then I ask myself if its worth out, and usually it is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    Thanks all for your input. It is much appreciated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭loubian


    This is my hardest battle :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭masonchat


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭professore


    Ignore any PMs that say wheat is the devil.

    My wife and daughter are both coeliac and this "fashionable" gluten free diet drives them both mad. All they want is to be able to eat wheat without getting violent diarrhoea / stomach cramps / joint pains / severe fatigue. My other daughter and I can eat anything we want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    verywell wrote: »
    Why is it that sometimes our desire to become slim/fitter/healthier etc can be all forgotten when we are faced with chocolate.

    I despair that I can feel upset about my body/weight yet in the moment I still choose to eat something that has no nutritional value whatsoever :mad:

    Remove sugar and grains from your diet and eventually you won't crave any foods. Treat yourself to dark choc - 70% or even better 85%. The stronger the % the harder it is to overeat it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    Remove sugar and grains from your diet and eventually you won't crave any foods. Treat yourself to dark choc - 70% or even better 85%. The stronger the % the harder it is to overeat it.


    I can understand wanting to remove sugar, but why the need to remove all grains :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    verywell wrote: »
    I can understand wanting to remove sugar, but why the need to remove all grains :confused:

    Don't get him started. Honestly just check his post history if you want his opinion on grains. Every thread has been derailed on this discussion on grains, carbs and fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭diarmuid05


    Only advice I can give without starting a debate is to do some research yourself on wheat/grains and see what conclusion you come to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Don't get him started. Honestly just check his post history if you want his opinion on grains. Every thread has been derailed on this discussion on grains, carbs and fat.

    The op feels upset about body weight . They crave sugar. The only sustainable long term way to stop this is by removing sugar and grain and therefore following a paleo / hflc lifestyle. The cravings will stop and they will become slim.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    The op feels upset about body weight . They crave sugar. The only sustainable long term way to stop this is by removing sugar and grain and therefore following a paleo / hflc lifestyle. The cravings will stop and they will become slim.

    What happened to "I did this and it worked for me"?

    Now it's the only way to go?

    On second thoughts, let's not derail another thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    What happened to "I did this and it worked for me"?

    Now it's the only way to go?

    On second thoughts, let's not derail another thread.

    It will work for everyone- apparently you can't say that HERE though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Self control and motivation?
    As important as heading out to exercise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    It will work for everyone- apparently you can't say that HERE though!

    You must feel like Jesus did, way back when.

    Minus the pain of crucifixion obvz.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭diarmuid05


    You must feel like Jesus did, way back when.

    or the guy who didn't fall off the edge of the earth.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    diarmuid05 wrote: »
    or the guy who didn't fall off the edge of the earth.....

    He didn't fall off because he didn't miss the point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Essien


    diarmuid05 wrote: »
    or the guy who didn't fall off the edge of the earth.....

    That analogy doesn't really work tbh. The counter to the HFLC argument is that you can lose plenty of weight while eating carbs/grains etc. The majority of us have been there, done it and know it is 100% correct, there's nothing to prove.

    It's not a black and white, either / or situation, both will work, that's the bit one side of the argument seems to be struggling with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    Look at your self in a mirror not on a weighing scales.

    I would have said the exact opposite. In my opinion if it's not quantifiable it's not real. I weigh myself twice a week, and record my weight and body fat% in an excel sheet, so I can monitor progress on a graph.
    I find it helpful because every now when my diet starts slipping, it's easy to convince myself that there was no ill effect my looking in the mirror, but the numbers don't lie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭TheGlass


    professore wrote: »
    My wife and daughter are both coeliac and this "fashionable" gluten free diet drives them both mad. All they want is to be able to eat wheat without getting violent diarrhoea / stomach cramps / joint pains / severe fatigue. My other daughter and I can eat anything we want.

    Why would it drive them mad? :confused:
    Surely it helps them by increasing the number of gluten free options available? I can't understand how you'd be angry about what other people eat or do with their bodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,522 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    The op feels upset about body weight . They crave sugar. The only sustainable long term way to stop this is by removing sugar and grain and therefore following a paleo / hflc lifestyle. The cravings will stop and they will become slim.

    It is not the only way, don't be daft. Stop equating Paleo to a panaceas.

    FYI Paleo is not a HFLC diet - why do you think they are the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,629 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    .. and un-follow thread in 5, 4, 3, 2, .... 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Bruno26


    It is not the only way, don't be daft. Stop equating Paleo to a panaceas.

    FYI Paleo is not a HFLC diet - why do you think they are the same?[/QUOTh

    Thanks for telling me paleo isn't hflc- I never knew that! A combination of both!

    It is the only sustainable way if you want to avoid counting calories and yo-yo dieting for a lifetime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,880 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    The op feels upset about body weight . They crave sugar. The only sustainable long term way to stop this is by removing sugar and grain and therefore following a paleo / hflc lifestyle. The cravings will stop and they will become slim.

    I don't think going cold turkey on something that most of the country consider a huge part of their diet for the rest of your life is a sustainable option.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,802 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Bruno26 wrote: »
    It is the only sustainable way if you want to avoid counting calories and yo-yo dieting for a lifetime.

    No it's not.

    And all this is at risk of derailing the OP...


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