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Welsh given greater prominence than English in Wales

  • 03-06-2014 7:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    From BBC Wales

    'Croeso i Gymru! Welsh language signs to have greater prominence than English across Wales'

    There are also other planned changes, such as all students studying through the medium of Welsh.

    I'm not Irish, so what I'd like to know is how feasible something like this would be in Ireland and whether the Irish should follow the Welsh model.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    *popcorn.gif*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Popty Ping is Welsh for microwave.

    That's why the Welsh language has prominence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    lewiscymru wrote: »
    From BBC Wales

    'Croeso i Gymru! Welsh language signs to have greater prominence than English across Wales'

    There are also other planned changes, such as all students studying through the medium of Welsh.

    I'm not Irish, so what I'd like to know is how feasible something like this would be in Ireland and whether the Irish should follow the Welsh model.

    Sounds as if the Welsh are following the Irish model, students that sit exams here through Irish are entitled to an extra 10%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 lewiscymru


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Sounds as if the Welsh are following the Irish model, students that sit exams here through Irish are entitled to an extra 10%.

    What exams? School exams?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    lewiscymru wrote: »
    What exams? School exams?

    Yes. And if you sit your driving test in Irish you are allowed drive a tractor.

    http://www.examinations.ie/index.php?l=en&mc=ca&sc=im


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭Hotale.com


    I would actually love it if Irish was used more in school. I think it's in serious danger of becoming extinct, the way it's taught atm is a joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    lewiscymru wrote: »
    From BBC Wales

    'Croeso i Gymru! Welsh language signs to have greater prominence than English across Wales'

    There are also other planned changes, such as all students studying through the medium of Welsh.

    I'm not Irish, so what I'd like to know is how feasible something like this would be in Ireland and whether the Irish should follow the Welsh model.

    Didn't you ask us this already?
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056987126


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    You mean exams and road-signs in Irish, it will never happen.... oh wait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    lewiscymru wrote: »
    From BBC Wales

    'Croeso i Gymru! Welsh language signs to have greater prominence than English across Wales'

    There are also other planned changes, such as all students studying through the medium of Welsh.

    I'm not Irish, so what I'd like to know is how feasible something like this would be in Ireland and whether the Irish should follow the Welsh model.

    No we shouldn't, because the state already shells out a fcukton of money on things like translations etc. There's no need.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Welsh is a vibrant modern regional minority language, prominent in many fields of art, literature & music, and increasingly popular with younger generations. Numbers speaking Welsh have been steadily increasing since the '80's.

    You can visit towns in Wales with most people speaking Welsh in the high street & shops, like Carnarvon for example. I doubt if you would find similar in Ireland. You'd probably struggle to find a village IME.

    Welsh language promotion policy needs to be adopted as a template in Ireland, replacing the outmoded & failed efforts over the last 100 odd years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    lewiscymru wrote: »
    From BBC Wales

    'Croeso i Gymru! Welsh language signs to have greater prominence than English across Wales'

    There are also other planned changes, such as all students studying through the medium of Welsh.

    I'm not Irish, so what I'd like to know is how feasible something like this would be in Ireland and whether the Irish should follow the Welsh model.

    we have students studying through the Irish medium here for years. there are 2 schools in my town one primary and a secondary school who teach every subject in Irish such as maths geography history and so on. i wish i had attended a school like that as my Irish is rubbish. the gaoel schools are getting more and more popular as it is a huge advantage to be good at irish when sitting the leaving cert.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I think the OP is Welsh.

    /Jessica Fletcher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    No we shouldn't, because the state already shells out a fcukton of money on things like translations etc. There's no need.

    You shouldn't need translations if it was taught right in the first place.

    Have some pride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    I am living in Wales for about 2 and a half years now.
    When I arrived over initially I was completely ignorant of the language. I thought that it lagged behind Irish in terms of prominence and even behind Scottish.
    I essentially thought that it was akin to Cornish and that it was almost dead!

    How wrong I was!!!

    I hear Welsh every single day without fail! For a lot of people that I know it's their first language and they show immense pride in it.

    But Welsh wasn't always in such good health.
    I watched a documentary on BBC Wales about how in the 60's a Welsh language activist called Saunders Lewis made a speech on radio, predicting that the language would be dead in a matter of decades. It was on its knees and numbers speaking the language were falling fast! It was the kick up the ar*e that was needed though!

    I think the Irish language movement should see what the Welsh have done and copy it step-by-step. They seem to concentrate way more on the spoken language that the way Irish is taught, which is the way it should be.
    It has gone from a nearly dead language to a vibrant and exciting one in relatively a short space of time.

    I would love if Irish was as widely used as Welsh.
    There is a lot of truth in the saying that a country without its language is a country without its soul.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    You shouldn't need translations if it was taught right in the first place.

    Have some pride.

    Translations to irish!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    I think the OP is Welsh.

    /Jessica Fletcher



    Well my wife likes to take trips to Cardigan Bay



    /Colombo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Irish might survive by teaching people how to speak it instead of poetry but personally I dont care either way. If people want to speak it let them.


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