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Quit job before new job secured or wait

  • 03-06-2014 4:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I'm in a job for just over 6 months; its well paid and good experience but I'm not particularly enjoying it and don't see a future in it. It's also very draining and stressful.

    I'm pretty much set on a move to the UK in next two months with a group of friends - to look for a job in a different area. I'm under no false impression that it will be easy to find a job or that the grass will be greener i.e. less stressful but I need to go get a different experience before its too late.

    So question is ; quit job first and try my luck or try to get interviews lined up. To get interviews I will need to inform my references who also work for company - catch 22

    thanks,

    Glut


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    glut22 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I'm in a job for just over 6 months; its well paid and good experience but I'm not particularly enjoying it and don't see a future in it. It's also very draining and stressful.

    I'm pretty much set on a move to the UK in next two months with a group of friends - to look for a job in a different area. I'm under no false impression that it will be easy to find a job or that the grass will be greener i.e. less stressful but I need to go get a different experience before its too late.

    So question is ; quit job first and try my luck or try to get interviews lined up. To get interviews I will need to inform my references who also work for company - catch 22

    thanks,

    Glut

    Not necessarily. You can say "references available on request", and leave it at that on your CV. Very often places won't look for your references until after the interview (at least in my experience) and so you should be fine.

    I'd definitely apply for jobs now, before you move. You could be waiting fo months before securing an interview even.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 389 ✭✭micromary


    I gave my situation in another thread. I started at the end of January. I was so so nervous before the start which is not like myself. However to cut a long story short I quit recently without anything lined up. Why - toxic atmosphere, very aggressive approach to staff (openly looking at getting other staff members sacked whether it is in Dublin or the US) and a stressful situation where my mental health was suffering and I dreaded going to work. Not getting on with some staff members including my team leader did not help.

    However I got a very good reference from my senior boss. I felt it was best to go before my work deteriorated and I faced warnings etc. Thankfully I am financially ok but others are maybe not and I can understand having to stay. I made the best decision for myself and that is all I can say! How long it will take to get a suitable position I don't but I am taking a relaxed approach and am looking abroad.

    Only you can make your own decision. Good luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Mr. Farewell


    glut22 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I'm in a job for just over 6 months; its well paid and good experience but I'm not particularly enjoying it and don't see a future in it. It's also very draining and stressful.

    I'm pretty much set on a move to the UK in next two months with a group of friends - to look for a job in a different area. I'm under no false impression that it will be easy to find a job or that the grass will be greener i.e. less stressful but I need to go get a different experience before its too late.

    So question is ; quit job first and try my luck or try to get interviews lined up. To get interviews I will need to inform my references who also work for company - catch 22

    thanks,

    Glut
    my father quit his job 8 months ago and hasn't been able to find another one. Were losing everything, car, house etc.. can't afford bread.. please don't take your job for granted


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    Keep the job buddy! You think its stressful and draining now? Wait till you're using the dozens of threatening letters piling in your door every day to light a fire when its in the minus's outside! Keep. The. Job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    You're unlikely to get a job in another country from here.

    Hang in for as long as you can, but do take a break before you move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭glut22


    newmug wrote: »
    Keep the job buddy! You think its stressful and draining now? Wait till you're using the dozens of threatening letters piling in your door every day to light a fire when its in the minus's outside! Keep. The. Job.

    I don't think this is helpful.....if that was the case why would anyone try get a better job. Its not going to come to that. I'm applying and going to try get something else lined up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Mr. Farewell


    glut22 wrote: »
    I don't think this is helpful.....if that was the case why would anyone try get a better job. Its not going to come to that. I'm applying and going to try get something else lined up

    Yeah man, I strongly advise that you keep your current job until you have a concrete second better one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Hang on until you have to give notice before you move abroad. You can apply for jobs from here and if necessary take days off to go to interviews. As others have said try and ensure you take a week or two off as well before moving to the UK with your friends.

    As others have said you don't have to give your references when applying. "References available on request" should suffice.

    Good luck with the job change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭blindsider


    OP - my tuppenceworth:

    - don't quit your current job until you have to - save every cent you can - you'll need it.

    - You're unlikely to get a job in the UK when still in Ireland - but, you can do a lot of groundwork: calls, emails and Skype to local employers and agencies.

    - The UK is not perfect - but jobs seem to be easier to come by in many areas e.g. bigger cities. One recent study suggested that jobs were 30% easier to find in the UK than Ireland (No I don't have the link....)

    - Some parts of the UK e.g. London can be quite expensive - mind your money and see my 1st point above.

    - Try to avoid long commutes to work - they can be very expensive and physically draining. (E.g. 10 min walk to bus, 15 min bus ride, 45 train ride followed by 20 min walk. It's not so bad in summer, but in winter it's not much fun.)

    BTW - summer in the SE of England can be very pleasant - often a good deal drier and warmer than Ireland.

    Good luck with it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    You haven't given us enough information to give you accurate advice.

    Do you have commitments, e.g. children?
    Do you have a decent amount of savings?

    Obviously if you have children and/or little to no savings it makes no sense to quit your job now. However if you're loaded and commitment free you may as well just quit.

    Your chance of being offered a job in London while in Ireland is much lower than if you were in London...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Few things. First off.

    In this day and age, having to provide relevant references is a load of bollocks. No-one is ever going to give a reference that puts themselves in a bad light. Between facebook and linkedIn, an interviewer can hit up a former boss or colleague themselves, and ask a few questions. 99% of people put down their friends, or non-managerial colleagues as their references anyway, so most employers dont bother checking them anymore.

    If your company got their dream candidate tomorrow, he codes, he writes documentation, he makes coffee and takes support calls, they would find a way of getting rid of you. And when they need someone to do the stuff when yer man is busy, they will ring you and offer you the job, because they need someone. Nowadays there is very little loyalty between employers and staff.

    If you get offered a better job, take it. But do not resign first. It could take you much longer than you think to get a job, and then you are left with no job. I'm not sure what industry you are in, but Ireland is ramping up again, with lots of jobs in IT, Pharma and business.

    Trust me, a few months job-hunting while in a job you hate is way better than job hunting from home with no money coming in because you walked out of job you hate.

    You say the job is stressful. Care less about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 188 ✭✭glut22


    Its not possible to care less.....it deals with safety of other ppl..... I'm in mid 20's have a good bit of savings no kids no loans no mortgage no ties....my friends are moving in the next 8 weeks so its more now or never .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    We can't tell you what to do. It sounds like you want us to say "quit and go to London".

    Personally I would quit and go to London.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    glut22 wrote: »
    my friends are moving in the next 8 weeks so its more now or never .....


    Sounds it's now then, since you'll need to give some notice.

    Resign now. Work out your notice over the next 4 weeks. Have a holiday for four weeks after that. Then head off with your friends.









    PS .. it's not "now or never" - you can easily enough move at a time of your own choosing, you don't need friends to hold your hand. Yes, they make it easier, but aren't essential. But if the money and mood is right, there's no reason why it shouldn't be now. You're only young once.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 389 ✭✭micromary


    All this about keep your job until you get another one is a complete load of crap in certain circumstances. There are 2 sides to every coin If you are stressed out to the gills then the job gets worse and your mental health goes down the drain. Fair enough if you have to stay due to money or committments. However caring less is rubbish. All that will do is lead to warnings and the possible sack. I know from experience.


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